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Mr. White
11-27-2015, 05:24 PM
Well here is my build thread. Looks like I'm gonna be the first Pontiac B-body in the house.

I guess I'll start with day one when I drug the ol boat home. Picked it up off craigslist, was back and forth about getting it, but I eventually convinced myself it would be a neat project.


(http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/8d12ca56-9030-4bd9-86b5-8d1aa95b5d5b_zpskpnqeln6.jpg.html)https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/8d12ca5690304bd986b58d1aa95b5d5b_zpskpnq-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/8d12ca56-9030-4bd9-86b5-8d1aa95b5d5b_zpskpnqeln6.jpg.html)

First order was to get the frame out from under the car and see what kinda mess I was in for.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1317_zpscrq4abm4-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1317_zpscrq4abm4.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1319_zpsqf1vn8ev-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1319_zpsqf1vn8ev.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1320_zpsb4hd1azt-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1320_zpsb4hd1azt.jpg.html)

After I got the frame in the garage I yanked all the coil springs out to see how the frame would lay out.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/41e92576297c4df7b0f86a62d4754ea3_zpszzwi-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/41e92576-297c-4df7-b0f8-6a62d4754ea3_zpszzwioaig.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1338_zpsf8ebug0z-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1338_zpsf8ebug0z.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1339_zps1ktpir9n-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1339_zps1ktpir9n.jpg.html)

Now time go get started. Stripped the frame and sent it and the rear end housing out for sandblasting.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1351_zpsyvetwdqw-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1351_zpsyvetwdqw.jpg.html)

Now that the 50+ year old dirt is off the frame I could inspect it for any bad spots. It had a few in the rear where the frame starts to go up over the rear axle. After cutting the old section out I discovered the frame seemed to be a home for a mud dobber colony at some point in time.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1372_zps19p2iseo-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1372_zps19p2iseo.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1373_zpss793sntj-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1373_zpss793sntj.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1360_zpsjhhymhef-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1360_zpsjhhymhef.jpg.html)

Cleaned out the dirt and patched up both side of the frame. The rest was in pretty good shape.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1361_zpsb1htxaxc-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1361_zpsb1htxaxc.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1371_zpsv9wpxyct-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1371_zpsv9wpxyct.jpg.html)

Godbolt
11-28-2015, 12:39 AM
Cool. Love the stacked headlights. What's the basic plan?

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 06:00 AM
Yeah the stacked headlights and front end is what I fell in love with. The plan is to have a nice Grand touring car to travel around the country in with my family.

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 06:39 AM
After the frame was repaired, it was time to start on the suspension. Since the car is not gonna be a track car I felt that the need for tubular front control arms was a bit much, also no companies advertise performance front ends parts for a 63 grand prix that I could find. Along with the control arms I couldn't even find any urethane bushings to replace the stock rubber ones. So I reverted back to my 4x4 days and modified both the front upper and lower control arms to accept a 2.375 wide sleeve and urethane bushing. I also added grease zirks in them to keep em quite.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1398_zpsewpryuh0-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1398_zpsewpryuh0.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1397_zpsvrlw6zyd-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1397_zpsvrlw6zyd.jpg.html)

After I got the front Control arms lined out, I mad some mounts for the air bags to replace the coil springs.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1386_zpsb135pr7n-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1386_zpsb135pr7n.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1385_zpsgmogwqdr-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1385_zpsgmogwqdr.jpg.html)

Also picked up some shock relocation brackets.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1387_zpswnqp4vpo-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1387_zpswnqp4vpo.jpg.html)

Mocked up the front end to check clearance of the bag around the front spring pocket.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1395_zps1qxe4fd6-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1395_zps1qxe4fd6.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1396_zpszye0dejc-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1396_zpszye0dejc.jpg.html)

Since the front was pretty much figured out I needed to work on the rear. The original plan was to modify the rear trailing arms like the front control arms with the sleeve and bushings and just box them in, but I found an air ride company that could make custom adjustable link bars cheaper than I could buy the material to modify the stock trailing arms.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1382_zpszh9mupqg-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1382_zpszh9mupqg.jpg.html)

Once the suspension was all mocked up I went ahead and painted the frame and suspension parts.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1390_zps8dkguzzt-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1390_zps8dkguzzt.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1389_zps9cioirnp-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1389_zps9cioirnp.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1401_zpsliriccxe-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1401_zpsliriccxe.jpg.html)

FLYNAVY53
11-28-2015, 07:27 AM
very cool.....in for the build!

andrewb70
11-28-2015, 09:30 AM
Awesome build. In for updates.

Andrew

69CougarXR7
11-28-2015, 12:27 PM
Looking forward to updates.... Best friend from high school has a 63 GP also.... Cool cars...

Brian

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 03:04 PM
Now time for Brakes. As you probably know, the car was originally a four wheel power drum brake car. That was not gonna satisfy my braking needs, so I decided to put together a budget four wheel brake setup. The front brakes consist of Scarebird disc brake brackets that utilizes the good ol D52 front calipers along with 11.875 rotors, stainless steel brake hoses, and some cheap ceramic pads for now, until the car is drive able to play with pad compounds.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1402_zps3w4aqjjm-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1402_zps3w4aqjjm.jpg.html)


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1403_zpslvpusn68-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1403_zpslvpusn68.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1405_zpshflgcjtj-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1405_zpshflgcjtj.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1406_zpsfgv93f3o-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1406_zpsfgv93f3o.jpg.html)

The rear brakes also use Scarebird caliper brackets with the common Eldorado rear calipers with integrated parking brake, 11" rotors, stainless steel brake hoses and ceramic pads.


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1443_zps36bs1xk0-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1443_zps36bs1xk0.jpg.html)


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1444_zpsfny7wphr-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1444_zpsfny7wphr.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1442_zpshxmfa8c3-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1442_zpshxmfa8c3.jpg.html)

For the Hydraulics I decided to go with a manual dual master cylinder setup from wilwood, 7/8" master for the front and 1" master for the rears, along with their pedal setup.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151128_164824_zpsn0mpwhbi-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151128_164824_zpsn0mpwhbi.jpg.html)

Twentyover
11-28-2015, 03:41 PM
This is a cool build. I'm in for spectating until you're through

That said, please address the way the body is supported. The way you are using cinder blocks, they can collapse and the car can tumble off the stands. Please at least rotate them so the thru holes are vertical and drop a chunk of wood on them to support the jackstands.

sdg0080
11-28-2015, 03:57 PM
Sweet, you're off to a damn good start man.

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 04:01 PM
Since the Grand Prix didn't have an engine or trans in the car I was on the hunt for a power plant. The plan for the car was always LS powered, So I picked up a complete take out LQ4 from a 2500 Express van from a friend, he also had an F-body 4L60e he threw in. I used the 4l60e for mock up, but sold it and purchased a T56 out of a 05 GTO. Upon my search for LS swap mounts, I yet again did not find any one that made specific mounts for a 63 grand prix. I ended up just buying some muscle car engine brackets from Dirty Dingo and made my own frame mounts with sleeves and urethane bushings that I welded to the cross member.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1501_zpsh68eu8uw-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1501_zpsh68eu8uw.jpg.html)


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1502_zpsreorciti-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1502_zpsreorciti.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1506_zpshqlcpyg8-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1506_zpshqlcpyg8.jpg.html)

Once the engine was mocked up it was time to put a little more pep in her step. I sold off the high combustion chamber 317 heads, and got a set of lower cc 243 heads to bump the compression up a little. While the heads were getting freshened up at the machine shop I had him take .020" off the deck surface and install some ls6 valve springs along with new guide seals. Other upgrades to the engine include a ported oil pump, LS2 timing chain, GM performance ASA cam, and some chromoly push rods. Finished it off with an LS1 intake and the Holley EFi fuel rails with 33lb injectors and a little paint.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/2f67112cebf94566b24fb422aef0d61c_zpsqxui-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/2f67112c-ebf9-4566-b24f-b422aef0d61c_zpsqxuiwqds.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/077b93b3c13942b9a9299d0034b369ee_zpsugss-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/077b93b3-c139-42b9-a929-9d0034b369ee_zpsugssbr5i.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1588_zpsn4skchdq-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1588_zpsn4skchdq.jpg.html)

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 04:16 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys!


This is a cool build. I'm in for spectating until you're through

That said, please address the way the body is supported. The way you are using cinder blocks, they can collapse and the car can tumble off the stands. Please at least rotate them so the thru holes are vertical and drop a chunk of wood on them to support the jackstands.

Greg, Thanks for the advise about the blocks, The car is no longer on the jackstands. I'm just getting everyone caught up to current with the car. Luckily the car sit on the blocks like that for 11 1/2 months without issue.

Tincup
11-28-2015, 05:23 PM
Love how you cleaned up the engine, looks great...

Mr. White
11-28-2015, 06:08 PM
This should be the last update to the current status of the car.

I will start with the body mounts. The stock body mounts are made of rubber and are 52 years old, they have seen better days. Instead of just replacing them with new rubber I felt that I should use something a little more rigid. After searching, I could not find anything of course. Then I remembered that I had bought a body lift for a Toyota truck years ago and the mounts I got were made of a hard plastic type material called Delrin. Come to find out it is kinda popular in the machinist world. So I took some measurements of the original body mounts and drew up some plans to have my machinist buddy make. Ordered the solid Delrin stock in the size I needed, and let him go to town.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/790bb21356d54e79b36eae88cee103b4_zpst8yp-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/790bb213-56d5-4e79-b36e-ae88cee103b4_zpst8yploej.jpg.html)

Now that I had body mounts I could lower the body back down on the frame to get the car in the garage.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1623_zpspszkgzfl-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1623_zpspszkgzfl.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_1622_zpsnadectgw-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/IMG_1622_zpsnadectgw.jpg.html)


After the car was in the garage I removed the front clip in order to install the engine and transmission to see what kind of firewall/trans tunnel clearance was needed. I ended up cutting out the entire trans tunnel and a big section of the fire wall.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151108_154807_zpsvcgna2yr-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151108_154807_zpsvcgna2yr.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151108_154921_zpsawavpxxt-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151108_154921_zpsawavpxxt.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151108_155113_zps0fiopu6j-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151108_155113_zps0fiopu6j.jpg.html)


Now that there was plenty of room for the engine/trans, It was time to build a transmission cross-member to get the drive line angel nailed down before the sheet metal.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151114_145603_zps1qgue2af-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151114_145603_zps1qgue2af.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151114_151657_zpsrnwkedee-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151114_151657_zpsrnwkedee.jpg.html)

Once the transmission was in place I went ahead with cutting out both front floor pans.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151121_112738_zpstfy8oqso-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151121_112738_zpstfy8oqso.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151121_130518_zps5n4qhynq-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151121_130518_zps5n4qhynq.jpg.html)

Got both floor pans fitted, also made a panel for the wilwood pedals and made a recess panel for the fire wall.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151121_155604_zpscnirnojx-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151121_155604_zpscnirnojx.jpg.html)

Welded in the floor pans, made lip on the fire wall panel, and started making the trans tunnel.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151122_170750_zpsbrvhua3s-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151122_170750_zpsbrvhua3s.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/20151122_170811_zpse1dh7sup-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151122_170811_zpse1dh7sup.jpg.html)

dalaigh
11-28-2015, 10:10 PM
This is going to be a nice looking car when it's done, it's looking good already…

Godbolt
11-29-2015, 12:34 AM
Will be a great ride. Not familiar with this model but as well as the front end with stacked lights the rear is really cool too. Great rear section of the roof and rear window and also really like the tail panel and small fins. Also love the original rear view mirror! I'd be keeping that if I were you.

Excellent job so far. The trans cross member looks awesome.

Z06vet
11-29-2015, 05:15 AM
Very impressed with your work. I wish my skills on welding & fab were up to that level. I have always liked pontiacs, very nice build.
Scott

Nicks67GTO
11-29-2015, 06:42 AM
Love the old Pontiacs. Cool build. Looking forward to updates

Mr. White
11-29-2015, 07:00 AM
Will be a great ride. Not familiar with this model but as well as the front end with stacked lights the rear is really cool too. Great rear section of the roof and rear window and also really like the tail panel and small fins. Also love the original rear view mirror! I'd be keeping that if I were you.

Excellent job so far. The trans cross member looks awesome.

Godbolt, yes the Grand Prix has some nice classic lines, the concave rear glass was new for the 63 models as well, the fender mounted mirror is definitely staying. Not sure if you noticed but the two headlights on the drivers side both have covers over the top of them. I'm guessing they were there to keep the lights out of the eyes of on coming traffic, little piece of 1963 courtesy. The cross-member is just a weld up universal one from summit, thanks.

I really love your mustang. The widebody is pretty sweet, couldn't imagine taking on a task of that magnitude, little alone make it look factory. I've always loved the lines of a mustang. My wife's family own a Mustang restoration business called Mustang Corral. So I'm sure I will own one eventually.


Very impressed with your work. I wish my skills on welding & fab were up to that level. I have always liked pontiacs, very nice build.
Scott

Thanks Z06, Your skills will improve with practice, the whole point of this build for me is practice. I've never done sheet metal work before.

AtomicFirebird
11-29-2015, 08:24 AM
120143

69CougarXR7
11-29-2015, 10:48 AM
Found a picture of my friends 63...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/d50f90d1e83b46838b4557972c68183a-1.jpg

This was a couple years back when he stopped by my shop with his now ex-wife for a quick visit... Interior still needed to be done at this point.... Rest of the car is stock..

Interesting that your car has the headlight half covers on one side... Of all the half covers I have seen they have always been on both sides of the car... My buddies car does not have any on it..

Brian

Mr. White
11-29-2015, 03:14 PM
That's a good looking car! I'm guessing it's an Auto 389 car? Since they only made 5000 or so 4 speed manual cars. Does it have the fuel economy vacuum gauge on the center console? I noticed it doesn't have the fender mount rear view mirror.

Maybe someone switched the head light half covers around at some point. I will more than likely put one on the other side, not sure which light yet though.

Mr. White
12-06-2015, 02:57 PM
Made a HVAC delete plate, welded the recess panel on the firewall, and connected the transmission tunnel gaps. Also cut a hole out for the shifter, and bolted up the Wilwood pedals so I can build a frame support off the original pedal mount.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/20151206_151302_zpsllj0a1te-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151206_151302_zpsllj0a1te.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/20151206_151329_zpshsigdexf-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151206_151329_zpshsigdexf.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/20151206_151348_zpszykwdv2y-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20151206_151348_zpszykwdv2y.jpg.html)

windows
12-06-2015, 03:58 PM
Looking real good Mr. White. Quality fabrication.

69CougarXR7
12-06-2015, 07:11 PM
Gig
That's a good looking car! I'm guessing it's an Auto 389 car? Since they only made 5000 or so 4 speed manual cars. Does it have the fuel economy vacuum gauge on the center console? I noticed it doesn't have the fender mount rear view mirror.

Maybe someone switched the head light half covers around at some point. I will more than likely put one on the other side, not sure which light yet though.

As far as I know it has the 389 with auto...

The car has been in storage for a few years now... My buddy got into a nasty divorce and wound up moving to Alaska... He is just about recovered financially and can start getting his cars back going again... He also has a 1964 LeMans convertible that he wants to do a GTO clone with..

Brian

ixfn
12-08-2015, 10:05 AM
Such a cool build! Looks so good at full drop, ought to be an all day cruiser.

Fahrenschnell
12-08-2015, 10:46 AM
I love this build. Keep after it

cbpldc
12-09-2015, 09:36 AM
Great looking ride and nice fabrication work. I look forward to seeing more!

Chris

Mr. White
12-09-2015, 04:43 PM
Thanks guys!!

Christmas came a little early for the car! Just got my Vintage Air Gen IV kit today thanks to Matt @ MCB. Also got a smokin deal on a FAST 102. It's over kill for my setup but I couldn't pass it up.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/12/155237143706436e82c6a9646255b7f3_zpsrjhf-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/15523714-3706-436e-82c6-a9646255b7f3_zpsrjhfic3j.jpg.html)

Mr. White
02-02-2016, 05:51 PM
Time for an update!

Installed the new FAST intake on the engine. Decided to just run the 3 bolt 75mm throttle body for now vs getting a 102mm. Also switch the factory LQ4 valley cover over to a PCV style LS6 one.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160110_153359_zpswfd8cdsz-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160110_153359_zpswfd8cdsz.jpg.html)


Made some little brackets to mount the vintage air unit and defrost ducts. Just sport welded them to the cowl, Forgot to snap a picture of the mock up.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160110_111423_zps0rgugjva-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160110_111423_zps0rgugjva.jpg.html)

Built a mount for the brake and clutch pedals as well. Then hit the cowl with some black.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160110_111403_zpsddbnb7yi-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160110_111403_zpsddbnb7yi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_171400_zpsff0vxcya-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_171400_zpsff0vxcya.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160110_150546_zps3yjzyujp-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160110_150546_zps3yjzyujp.jpg.html)

Found a good spot for the accelerator pedal and got it mocked up. Once the pedals were installed, I had to put the seat in to get a better perspective. I plan on ordering the LOKAR brake and clutch pedal pads to match the accelerator.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_170921_zpsp3xcyjys-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_170921_zpsp3xcyjys.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_170956_zpsf6apqoyx-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_170956_zpsf6apqoyx.jpg.html)

Next I moved on to the windshield wipers. The original wiper motor to the car was locked up, so I was in need of a new one. Since I didn't care to much for the big bulky original one, I decided to come up with something different. After some research I found a very nice well put together universal kit that DSE sells, BUT I was not going to spend that kind of coin on wipers. So I picked up a new CTS wiper motor, made my own plate and modified the original wiper motor arm to bolt to the CTS motor.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_131912_zpsfoijnxl8-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_131912_zpsfoijnxl8.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_165915_zpsnvq83wmb-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_165915_zpsnvq83wmb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_170205_zpskws3mppi-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_170205_zpskws3mppi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_170234_zps4vt6kvv9-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_170234_zps4vt6kvv9.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_170426_zpsuxds08vt-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_170426_zpsuxds08vt.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_170525_zpsqgy02le7-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_170525_zpsqgy02le7.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160123_164941_zps5rpxf2ni-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160123_164941_zps5rpxf2ni.jpg.html)

I know that DSE sells a wiper control module with their kit in order to utilize the park and control delay. I plan to just build my own module with some relay's and a 555 timer.

Now on to the dreaded trunk, the worse of the rust. The entire floor was rotten, along with both trunk extensions which connect the floor to the lower rear quarter panels, all the floor braces, the mounts, and the lip that holds the trunk lid weather strip.

First was the trunk weather strip lip. After weeks of contemplating how I wanted to attack the issue, I decided to give POR15 a shot to see how good of a product they claim to have. So I picked up their trunk and floor pan resto kit, followed their direction to a T and when to town.

Here is what I had to start with.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160110_151846_zps4cv2j4wg-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160110_151846_zps4cv2j4wg.jpg.html)

Put two coats on the entire weather strip lip and let it setup.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_160302_zpswo87qvdd-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_160302_zpswo87qvdd.jpg.html)



https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_160220_zpsizphjehy-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_160220_zpsizphjehy.jpg.html)

Then cut off some of the epoxy putty, mixed it up and started pushing it into the holes.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_160636_zpsunh1w5yd-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_160636_zpsunh1w5yd.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_163020_zpsrs2mwc8r-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_163020_zpsrs2mwc8r.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_163257_zps376hullr-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_163257_zps376hullr.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_162933_zps77dniogl-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_162933_zps77dniogl.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160117_163352_zpssurkbgbm-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160117_163352_zpssurkbgbm.jpg.html)


In all reality I am pleased with the way it turned out so far. The epoxy putty took care of the holes and also reinforced the whole rear section of the lip. It dries extremely hard and in sand able.

Mr. White
02-02-2016, 05:53 PM
Next was the trunk extensions. Since I was going to preserve the original out side patina of the car for now, I didn't want to weld the new trunk extensions to the lower quarters. So I coated the inside of the quarters with POR15 and glued the new extension panels on with 3M panel bond. I know you are supposed to glue metal on metal with panel bond, but we shall see how this holds up for know.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160124_130528_zpsvl0dm40i-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160124_130528_zpsvl0dm40i.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160124_130545_zpsx7to5agb-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160124_130545_zpsx7to5agb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160124_130607_zpslrwmnbym-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160124_130607_zpslrwmnbym.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160124_130623_zpsopfkimfr-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160124_130623_zpsopfkimfr.jpg.html)

After the trunk extensions were glued in and setup. I welded the 3 piece trunk floor together and got it welded in. Then I stared to make the filler panels to connect the new floor pan to the rear tail light panel.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160131_121707_zpsy2ogug5p-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160131_121707_zpsy2ogug5p.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160131_121645_zpsqrh4ar9a-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160131_121645_zpsqrh4ar9a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160131_121809_zpslxpohehm-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160131_121809_zpslxpohehm.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160131_142639_zpsoem01uug-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160131_142639_zpsoem01uug.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160131_142725_zpsf71elylv-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160131_142725_zpsf71elylv.jpg.html)

The plan for this weekend is to build a rotisserie, get the body mounted on it, So I can finish out the sheet metal and get the whole under side of the car in bed liner.

1965gp
02-02-2016, 10:03 PM
Project is really coming along- looks great

Mr. White
02-07-2016, 01:43 PM
Thanks 65GP!

Had a productive weekend, built a rotisserie for the car and got the body mounted to it. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, it was pretty nerve racking getting the car trued up and balanced, but its done now and will make my life that much easier finishing out the bottom of the car. Here are some pics of the build. Sorry for the out of focus pics, my dad isn't the best at working a camera phone.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/26AA6695033D415F829809ADCFF9DF0B_zpsamev-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/26AA6695-033D-415F-8298-09ADCFF9DF0B_zpsamevfs1g.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/C317A1C01DAD4829B904AAEF8C64F27E_zpsr4wz-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/C317A1C0-1DAD-4829-B904-AAEF8C64F27E_zpsr4wzqyix.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/617752540B3C45C2A1AA280588603BA6_zpskjuc-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/61775254-0B3C-45C2-A1AA-280588603BA6_zpskjuczx4u.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160207_112737_zpswezblb0a-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160207_112737_zpswezblb0a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/20160207_112757_zpsy1tkzgtf-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160207_112757_zpsy1tkzgtf.jpg.html)

Mr. White
06-12-2016, 05:14 PM
Looks like its been a while since the last update. Once I had the car on the rotisserie and got a good look of the entire body, I felt the car had a little more rust in the quarters and wheel houses than I was comfortable with. So I made the decision to replace the quarters, cut out all the rust and paint the car.

I stared with replacing the drivers quarter panel.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_101728_zps2wqzd5ar-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_101728_zps2wqzd5ar.jpg.html)

After I cut the quarter off this is what is found beneath.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_110418_zpseivimgxi-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_110418_zpseivimgxi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_110358_zpsdsta532c-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_110358_zpsdsta532c.jpg.html)

Made a new panel and replaced the lower section of the inner structure and cover with some epoxy.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_144353_zpsknzcbfkc-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_144353_zpsknzcbfkc.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_155221_zpsg73mpfky-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_155221_zpsg73mpfky.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160612_132302_zps0lvkrszv-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160612_132302_zps0lvkrszv.jpg.html)

Got the quarter panel cut down and fit to the car.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_125704_zpsie6pmih8-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_125704_zpsie6pmih8.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160521_125638_zpsrfemiwzs-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160521_125638_zpsrfemiwzs.jpg.html)

Once the quarter was fitted, I decided to go a head and blot up a wheel just to make sure everything had plenty of clearance before I weld up the panel. Before I could do that, I had to change the bolt pattern of the rear axle to 5 x 4.750 since billet specialties could not make the wheels I wanted in a 5 x 5 pattern. In order to do that, I pickup a nice jig to make life easier.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160601_171010_zpsoynlls7n-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160601_171010_zpsoynlls7n.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160601_175616_zpsk2i37kxx-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160601_175616_zpsk2i37kxx.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160601_182823_zpsmq3rjiq2-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160601_182823_zpsmq3rjiq2.jpg.html)

After the bolt pattern was drilled, I had to ream the holes out just a little to install the new ARP studs.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_182508_zpserxiedma-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_182508_zpserxiedma.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_182419_zpssxyfpleu-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_182419_zpssxyfpleu.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_182430_zpsijinlmvm-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_182430_zpsijinlmvm.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_183002_zpszgzzrxm4-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_183002_zpszgzzrxm4.jpg.html)

Pressed the studs in and Finally bolted up a wheel.


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_190507_zpswvz5f1mz-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_190507_zpswvz5f1mz.jpg.html)

and laid out.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_190841_zpsbzv4xqky-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_190841_zpsbzv4xqky.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_191329_zps0zdggofc-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_191329_zps0zdggofc.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_191338_zpsi9zqmkvm-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_191338_zpsi9zqmkvm.jpg.html)

Got the passenger side prepped like the drivers and and ready to fit the quarter and drill the axle.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160612_132333_zpszthcnvib-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160612_132333_zpszthcnvib.jpg.html)

Mr. White
06-12-2016, 05:21 PM
In the mean time I pulled the trigger on a Keefer Design Universal Billet fuel Filler, Made a panel for it and replaced the old gas door.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_181732_zpskb2dmjof-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_181732_zpskb2dmjof.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_181738_zpskcqu9wrn-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_181738_zpskcqu9wrn.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_181750_zpsaqlo5acs-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_181750_zpsaqlo5acs.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160607_181827_zpsuuku4guv-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160607_181827_zpsuuku4guv.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/06/20160612_132810_zpshxjq1hec-1.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/onewhiteguy/media/Grand%20Prix/20160612_132810_zpshxjq1hec.jpg.html)

andrewb70
06-12-2016, 06:27 PM
Excellent work!

Andrew

Godbolt
06-13-2016, 02:23 AM
Yep, excellent work alright and great write up. Wheel looks fantastic on there.

Lull0713
09-30-2016, 06:42 AM
So glad I stumbled across your build! I'm preparing to start on my 63 GP...and have the same plans right down to the bags and LQ4....I will probably run a 4l65e though to try and keep the GP center console, but I would prefer a manual. Here is some inspiration from back in day! Did you know Watson's first lace paint job was a 63 GP.132435
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