Cheap "er" 4 link setup for 67-69 camaro?

[Marc_r]

Been looking around and everything seems expensive for what they are offering

anyone used diy kits? Or know of a cheaper setup?

[Schwartz Performance]

What kind of price were you hoping for? Aka what's your budget?

-Dale

[mean buzzen half dozen]

I'll say $1500.

[MuscleRodz]

Ridetech is $1300 plus the coilovers.

[Marc_r]

Id even consider a weld on setup

1300 is pretty steap for what it is

[Z06killinSBF]

Speedway has $400 tube kits. Or you can order all the heavy duty heim joints, brackets and hit up your local steel shop for the tubing.

[mean buzzen half dozen]

Any deals on a Quadralink setup?
Or a Chris Alston 4 link set-up.
Let me know.
Thank you.

[MuscleRodz]

Id even consider a weld on setup

1300 is pretty steap for what it is

the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. I just checked TCI and it is basically same price. I'm sure you can find something cheaper like the Helix crap from China, but in the end your risking your life and anyone else around you.

[Marc_r]

I totally understand that, but the ride tech is 1300 plus 550 for the coilovers
For what is included in the kit itself, it seems like alot of money

I was looking for a cheaper alternative that includes the coilovers, or cheap enough that i can add qa1 coilovers

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

You aren't paying for strictly the parts, you're also paying for top quality, and tons of R&D to get a proven performance product. Yes, you can probably buy the pieces to throw something together with the same parts, but 80 hours of work later you'll maybe have something cobbled together that doesn't perform. $1300 I've always thought was a fair price. Once again, you get what you pay for.

[ace_xp2]

Can you fab? If so, Z06 has the right idea, start reading and build your own. Otherwise, just keep an eye out in the classifieds.

[bret]

I totally understand that, but the ride tech is 1300 plus 550 for the coilovers
For what is included in the kit itself, it seems like alot of money

I was looking for a cheaper alternative that includes the coilovers, or cheap enough that i can add qa1 coilovers

If you have the time, talent and facilities to fabricate your own 4 link, I would truly suggest that route to save money. There are several suspension books that offer design and fabrication ideas. You can source the rod ends from a number of places [including us]...the rest is tubing and plate. The sense of achievement by designing and fabricating your own suspension is hard to replace! That will allow you to devote more resources to buying a quality coilover...that is the real brains of your suspension.

BUT...if you lack any of the above resources, $1300 for a model specific, pre-engineered, pre fabricated 4 link is a steal compared to the months of design work, weeks of fabrication and days of installation time required to build your own. I say that not to discourage you in any way, but encourage and inform whatever path you take. Whichever way you decide...keep us informed with pictures!

[3_z28camaro]

If you have $1,500.00 on hand now to spend and if you are not in a hurry why not save up some more and look at a DSE Quadralink or CA Chassisworks setup? A base Quadralink would be about $1,000.00 more and it is a proven system. I have an Art Morrison triangulated four bar but that is on the higher end price range but you get a real rear frame.

[chevelletiger]

I Agree with Bret.I build most of my stuff,I'm currently working on a rear coil over set up for my chevelle.i have spent about 30.00 in rectangular tube,but messed up the first one,and have spent the last 3 weeks working on it on my breaks at work,I'm a machinist by trade,and have access to all the machines and have 19 yrs experience in designing and fabricating something out of nothing.in the long run,your paying for the r&d,machine time electricity etc. and it's actually not that much cash for what you get.if you have the skills and love having fun making it yourself go for it!
Phil

[chevelletiger]

And as Bret said,pics please! Love that kind of sheet!

[Marc_r]

And its on, ordered some heim joints and off to building i go
Ive done my fair share of fabrication, just was wondering on a setup already done for faster turn around

[BMR Sales]

R&D, Fabrication, Quality Control, Quality Materials to work with, Shop Overhead, Insurance all go into making a Quality piece.

Knowing the Price of Tubing (where did come from, what is is made out of?) and welding on your dime can save you money, but would you want to dive on it?

[Tomswheels]

Are you in So-Cal? I know a shop here who will build you one and install it for that...

[MonzaRacer]

So cheaper is better than the right part with the proper quality, design and support.
Huh, I would pay for properly designed parts, see I DID DESIGN THE INSTALL ON MY TRUCK I used Ridetech parallel 4 link, and CoolRide all around. I made mine bolt into the factory rivet holes for the front spring mount. I used an A6 ac compressor to build pressure.
It worked and I got over 2 yrs out of it and then swapped in a York/Tecumseh.
Trust this, you may feel you want to take on fabbing a rear 4 link, but when it breaks, then you have to do it all over again of sorts. IF you manage to break a Ridetech then you REALLY have tried to destroy your car.
BUT trying to actually design and build and taking into account all the forces and structural stress involvedl Man I simply designed a way to MOUNT it to the frame. the axle mounts, well they didnt get done quite right,,,my pinion angle is way off.
Dont get me wrong, I drove the truck for 4 yrs, no issues,,,other than pinion angle.
Good luck on designing and building, but wanting to do something cheaper.
Ill do just that for most things, but trying to REDESIGN your car when several companies have already done this. Just seems like a lot more work than really needed.
But its hot rodding, hope it works out.

[TheJDMan]

I have to agree with most of the posts here, why reinvent the wheel? While I do a fair amount of fabrication when needed, I am also smart enough to recognize that sometimes not using a proper kit is just plain dumb. $1500 for a well designed suspension is peanuts compared to the alternative home made setup. Also consider that kit or fabricated, either way you still have to buy coilover shocks and in most cases the name brand manufacturer's kits include shocks at reduced prices compared to buying the same shocks outright.

[ace_xp2]

Wow, I'm a little surprised how many are so set on a kit here. Look, doing a kit should get you a well designed four link (likely, as most of the crap designs have now been flushed) and a set of shocks that are about right for the set of springs that the suspension will come with, both of which have been set up for one particular driving style or another.

That's all well and good, but as you begin to play with the car you're likely to find that your driving style varies from whatever that system came with. No doubt it'll be way better then stock, but you might want it looser or tighter at any given time, and that's going to require knowing a good bit about both shocks and springs as well as what influences the geometry is having. In other words, just because you're buying a design, doesn't mean you'll get to avoid learning its intricacies.

Now that's not to say once you know how a suspension can work you'll have all you need to build one, there's a ton (re:hundreds) of hours to spend in deciding where to fit links, and figuring out what size steel and rod ends you're going to need.

However, learning these things to the extent that you can build it on your own is its own reward, and the feeling you get when you finally drive on something you've taken from your mind to the real world I've never had replicated through any purchase. Even more so once you've built it twice after you inevitably screw up the first time :)

If times a factor? Buy. Not willing to put your life on your welds? Buy.
But realise that along with some of the savings of building there lies another side to this hobby, in some ways it's really a whole other thing with a whole different set of experiences it can offer.

[Marc_r]

Haha wow, lots of brand specific people on here sheesh

Ive buit many cars, and 4 links in the past. Even built a rwd civic

I was only posting to see if there were any setups cheaper than what i had seen

Ive got qa1 coilovers already, i ordered heim joints, i design **** with cad and have access to a plasma table.. Pretty sure i got this covered lol

[MtotheIKEo]

You obviously have resources beyond what most of the members here have, and therefore have the ability to build your own. Adding to that, it looks like you are going in a different direction than most manufacturers by using heims. It would be interesting for the community if you documented your project and shared the process, from design to fabrication to road testing.

I know the few times I have decided to build my own component in the effort to save money, the amount of time invested ended up not being worth it. If your interests lie more in the fabrication side then this may be perfect, but for those of us that would rather spend the weekends driving or doing something else besides designing/fabricating, the cost of a manufactured component can be easily justified.

[chevelletiger]

Haha wow, lots of brand specific people on here sheesh

Ive buit many cars, and 4 links in the past. Even built a rwd civic

I was only posting to see if there were any setups cheaper than what i had seen

Ive got qa1 coilovers already, i ordered heim joints, i design **** with cad and have access to a plasma table.. Pretty sure i got this covered lol
I design with cad too(a pencil,paper and math!)ha!ha!ha!
Just ribbing you man.
Start hitting it,and show us the progress.
Phil

[badazz81z28]

A lot of people fail to recognize the cost of their time. I agree that once said and done you can't beat the value of a kit like the quadra link. I know it is expensive, but it will save you lots of time with research and engineering and knows it will perform. Save up for a kit

[jaybee]

I don't want to link here out of respect for the resident vendors who do so much to support this forum. Some of the coolest cars here, though, are home built and I love the DIY tech. Since you have skills, facilities, and desire to build your own and you just want a leg up on it I'd love to see what you do. Point your favorite search engine toward "Welder Series". You'll have to adapt what you find to your own situation. You'll have to figure out the geometry. It is a possible answer to your question, however.