DSE Ford 9" housing options

[badazz81z28]

Love DSE stuff, but they are killing my budget. Are there any recommendation here to have someone else build me the same 9" housing DSE with brackets welded can do for less money?

I did some research and for example...ford billet Torino ends, $60 from a dozen folks, but DSE is charging $110!

[Z06vet]

I would just wait & save the rest of the $ needed to get it from DSE. The housing is likely set up on their jig & you know everything will be right. Maybe shop around for the third member setup. You have gone this far with higher end parts for your build, dont stop now. I have been down this route, and a lot of times I ended up unsatisfied one way or the other when trying to save money. Heck I even have been unsatisfied trying to spend the extra money to do it right. This is just my opinion, others may have a different take on this. Scott

[badazz81z28]

Yeah, I know about that. I have the cash to buy it now, I just noticed that some of the individual parts are up charged making it more expensive

[1BADBET]

Who sells ford big bearing housing ends for $60? The bearings only are $60 maybe, but everyone I've seen is $90 and up and that's typical. If your buying their whole system I would get their housing too so everything works together. If you have someone else build it they will need the car to set up the brackets or hope the measurements they are given are correct. Getting all the parts from one place eliminates problems and if there is one the parts people and rear end builder can't blame each other since it's all from one place.

[TheJDMan]

Do you have to buy the 9" from DSE? Can you buy a 9" from someone else and have DSE weld their brackets on your housing?

[badazz81z28]

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Who sells ford big bearing housing ends for $60? The bearings only are $60 maybe, but everyone I've seen is $90 and up and that's typical. If your buying their whole system I would get their housing too so everything works together. If you have someone else build it they will need the car to set up the brackets or hope the measurements they are given are correct. Getting all the parts from one place eliminates problems and if there is one the parts people and rear end builder can't blame each other since it's all from one place.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xford+bill et+torino+ends.TRS0&_nkw=ford+billet+torino+ends&_sacat=0

The instructions that come with the Quadra link tell you where the brackets go. Any competent builder should be able to get them installed correctly.

[badazz81z28]

Any other thoughts?

[1BADBET]

Have you priced out what a builder would charge? I was quoted 300 just to weld my supplied ends on, so I said screw that and bought the chassisworks fixture to do it myself. Make sure whoever you get to do it has a fixture, some "fab" guys think you can just weld them on, with that thinking I've seen brake calipers that wouldn't go on, cars that wouldn't launch straight and 3rd members that exploded from tubes and brackets not being square. Good guys make good money, like I said it might be cheaper to just buy the whole set up.

[Build-It-Break-It]

There are tons of places that can weld on the brackets when building the rear ends. I did mine at home for my Speed tech torque arm set up.

With a few angle finders,levels, clean flat surface,measurements and a welder.

You just can't completely weld the brackets on all at once. Get a good tack weld on all the brackets to secure them. Then just weld one side, let cool to the touch, weld a different side, let cool to the touch etc. To not warp the axle tube. After I was done, checked the axle tube again etc and bingo bang o. Saved some money.

It's not rocket surgery.

[badazz81z28]

Well I got a hold of Moser and it seems I can get an axle/housing combo custom built for less than just the housing alone from DSE. Does DSE's housing have anything special about to make it better than MOSER?

[Build-It-Break-It]

There's nothing special about there housing. How much is there bare housing compared to Moser with the axles?

[badazz81z28]

There's nothing special about there housing. How much is there bare housing compared to Moser with the axles?

DSE Prepped bare housing, brackets installed waiting on guts = $1145 + $250 to ship
Axles: $550
Moser Prepped bare housing, brackets installed waiting on guts = $865 + $150 to ship
Axles: $470


Honestly, Detroit Speed charging to narrow the rearend, cost of Torino ends plus installing them is extra $$$ while Moser does that for free buyig the housing from them.

[Build-It-Break-It]

Click on the video link below. They're using there rear end with DSE brackets. You can get a bare housing with the axle flanges welded on even cheaper through Speedwaymotors .Com . If you call them they can even weld on the axle brackets.
https://youtu.be/J-7ln9unYoM

[badazz81z28]

Looks like a Moser video. Is that right?

[Build-It-Break-It]

It's a V8tv video and the rear end they're building is a Currie rear end.

[1BADBET]

There are tons of places that can weld on the brackets when building the rear ends. I did mine at home for my Speed tech torque arm set up.

With a few angle finders,levels, clean flat surface,measurements and a welder.

You just can't completely weld the brackets on all at once. Get a good tack weld on all the brackets to secure them. Then just weld one side, let cool to the touch, weld a different side, let cool to the touch etc. To not warp the axle tube. After I was done, checked the axle tube again etc and bingo bang o. Saved some money.

It's not rocket surgery.


Welding brackets you can get away with, it's welding the tubes and housing ends where you really need a fixture, if those move even a tiny bit it causes the axles to bind, calipers to be off and cars to never launch straight. How did you check your axle tubes for straightness after welding without a fixture?

If you don't have access to a fixture buying a housing with ends already welded on and put the brackets on yourself would probably be the cheapest option. I would CALL moser and currie or whoever you want to use for pricing, a lot of times there are things missing from Internet prices that you need and people forget about. Best to talk to someone about what you need and get a true out the door price.

[Build-It-Break-It]

My personal housing had the axle flanges already welded on when ordered it new. I welded on the control arm brackets once I received them from Speed Tech.

They sell the solid bar stock and flange pucks to weld on the axle flanges and to keep everything straight. Paying twice the price just because everyone says to doesn't make sense. Everything can be done at home if you have the skill and proper tools if needed.

Mosier,Strange,Speedway motors or Currie can build the rear end and weld all the brackets on no problem. He can order his rear suspension and send the brackets to any of the builders listed and they can weld on the brackets no problem and at a savings.

[1BADBET]

I totally agree! I'm very much a budget minded/ best bang for the buck do it myself kinda guy. Having the bar and pucks too keep everything straight while welding is almost exactly what s fixture looks like, some guys think oh I put the axle in and it went in so its "straight" lol I'm building a budget floater for my car, I just bought the fixture from chassis works (a super nice piece) because I do fab work and after I do 2 read ends it will pay for itself no prob.

[badazz81z28]

I think somethins...unless you indeed have the proper tools, better to pay someone. I'm going to end up getting this done by DSE

[csouth]

I think somethins...unless you indeed have the proper tools, better to pay someone. I'm going to end up getting this done by DSE

If DSE has the specs for the brackets in the Quadra Link instructions, there is no reason you can not have Moser do it. Moser has been building rears on fixtures a lot longer than DSE has even been around. If the specs are provided, there is now reason it can't be done by someone other than DSE especially by a company that made there name building rear axles.

[badazz81z28]

If DSE has the specs for the brackets in the Quadra Link instructions, there is no reason you can not have Moser do it. Moser has been building rears on fixtures a lot longer than DSE has even been around. If the specs are provided, there is now reason it can't be done by someone other than DSE especially by a company that made there name building rear axles.


I agree. I feel my real swing towards DSE is if they are not installed correctly, I have more power there than Moser to get it fixed. Additionally, the narrowing of the housing in regards to "E" and "F" measurements, offsets etc would need to be provided to Moser and I have no clue. I will be looking to Moser for the 3rd member and axles. Just need to figure out if 31 spline is the way to go.

[csouth]

I agree. I feel my real swing towards DSE is if they are not installed correctly, I have more power there than Moser to get it fixed. Additionally, the narrowing of the housing in regards to "E" and "F" measurements, offsets etc would need to be provided to Moser and I have no clue. I will be looking to Moser for the 3rd member and axles. Just need to figure out if 31 spline is the way to go.

I can understand your concern, I just feel that DSE is overcharging. They are not making the housings themselves so the are passing the upcharge on to the customer.
I would definitely say do the 31 spline axles, no reason at all to do anything less.

[badazz81z28]

They sure do....