jorgezee1
05-13-2015, 03:57 PM
Hello Everyone,
If you're interested in my background story please proceed to my story below. If you're only interested in what I am building skip the story.
I will be starting a 1963 falcon restomod build project. I am new to fords, my background in classic cars has always revolved around the chevy platform. In parallel with this build I have another build, a 69 Camaro that is my never ending money pit project. So now comes the question of why... The answer is very simple, my wife felt left out that I was building a classic car to enjoy and now she wanted one. I asked what she liked hopping she would say 65 Nova or Chevelle. In the end she said I want a Falcon. I was a bit surprised and thrown off guard, haha. Just to be clear, I have nothing against any manufacturer and I also appreciate all muscle car platforms. All the cars from the muscle car era's are badass to me. I just never worked on any of the ford platform cars or had any background history on mods that are done to them. So a few months of researching and saving up, she decided on the falcon she wanted, a 1963 falcon hardtop. This is where I came in and started my own research. I searched forums after forums trying to get as much info on these cars. The more I read about the car the more I understood what I wanted for her in a falcon :) My decision was now clear, If I am going to build a falcon at minimum it will need to be a v8 model Futura or Sprint. Why a v8? Bucket seats, Disc brakes, fuel injection, aftermarket support and because it's a v8 and I want it.... for her. I need to build something I know she can drive and she will be safe in. The first mods I will plan to do is power disc brakes and suspension then the powertrain. So this is the start of my build. I thank you in advance for all the countless forum posts you have all started here, and on other sites that will help me along the way to finish this build. Onto the good stuff...
Starting point:
1963 Falcon Futura Sprint
Ford V8 302 4 barrel with a C4 floor shift conversion
Original 8" 3.00 rear end
5 lug, Drums non power booster.
Non power steering with a 1 1/8th gear box.
Body is rough... not happy about this part.
Pics
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1499-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1499.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1497-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1497.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1494-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1494.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1501-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1501.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1697-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1697.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1510-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1510.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1509-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1509.jpg.html)
First day home:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1490-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1490.jpg.html)
Build Plans:
302 FI Engine
AOD (gearing from R470w) column shift
8" 3.80 Posi Tru Lock
Refurbish/New stock suspension 2" lower
65 Falcon Steering upgrade
Power Brakes
Granda brake (with corrected angle spindles)
Rear ABS Disc brakes
Kwik wire 14 circuit - rewire kit
Painless Engine Harness
Tanks inc Mustang fuel Tank (fuel injection)
There is a lot of other in between stuff I will need to figure out.
New brake lines and fuel lines. I will break down the list a bit more when I get pics of the parts. There are still a lot of parts sourcing to do.
Other Project:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_0700-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Camaro/IMG_0700.jpg.html)
I will break down what I can for my build but if you have any questions do not hesitate to ask I will share the knowledge I gained. Like I said, I am new to fords so if you feel I am forgetting or doing something wrong please let me know.
Plan updates and parts list.
Engine 302 Fi:
302 built and ran in a early Bronco. Picked up from craigslist for 1350.00 after some negotiation.
Engine is rebuilt, unknown milage but very few (under 10,000) from the information I gathered. It also came with a dyno sheet. 330tq at 3400 rpm 240hp at 4400rpm
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_2864-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_2864.jpg.html)
Painless Wiring kit with ecu - Came with Engine. Some cut wires but nothing major. bought addition painless circut kit from ebay to fix it up.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3234-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3234.jpg.html)
References:
EFI 5.0 install (http://www.midnightdsigns.com/Mustang/Engine.htm)
Falcon 5.0 Conversion (http://www.w4wwj.org/Falcon-swap.htm)
B.C. Broncos Fuel Injection (http://www.bcbroncos.com/fuelefi.html)
JamesW's Home Page (http://midnightdsigns.com/james/)
The Falcon/Comet FAQ (http://falconfaq.dyndns.org)
Transmission AOD:
Bought 2, a AOD out of a 90 mustang and a AODE out of a 94 F150 2wd
Both were bought from craigslist 60.00 for the 90 AOD and 50 for the 94 AODE
Took both of them and had the AOD rebuilt, AOD with R470W gearing:
Rebuild cost: Total with trans purchase was a about 1,000
Red Alto clutches, kolene steels, gaskets and Seals
Trickflow pan - Craigslist find
Lokar column shift kit
References:
How to Build the Perfect AOD - AODetail (http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/drivetrain/1407-how-to-build-the-perfect-aod-aodetail/)
Baumann Electronic Controls (http://www.becontrols.com/techguide_3.htm)
Lincolns OnLine | Tech Tips and Articles (http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00111.html)
Lincolns OnLine | Tech Tips and Articles (http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00080.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3220-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3220.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3223-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3223.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3222-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3222.jpg.html)
Torque Convertor Edge Racing 10" 2600 rpm stall
used - Craigslist 350.00
Edge Racing Converters, More Horsepower with More Torque Guaranteed! (http://www.edgeracingconverters.com)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3221-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3221.jpg.html)
Rear end:
Bought a 67 mustang 8"
Rebuilt open diff 2.89 gear? can't remember with new disc brakes
Craigslist - 600.00
I will basically use the brakes and pumpkin and sell the diff and rebuild mine or have this one narrowed. not sure yet.
Bought a yukon Tru trac posi from a seller on ebay with bearing kit and 3.80 ring and pinion - 434.00 shipped for posi and bearing kit and axle bearing kit.
140 shipped for gearing kit. Total 575
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3227-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3227.jpg.html)
Brakes and Suspension:
Granada kit, new 65 falcon steering, and new control arms. 900.00
New but installed on a falcon so a bit rusty now.
Wall to Wall Falcon parts - Russ Wall he has a good amount of hard to find parts. Russ Wall, Azusa, CA (626) 969-8157
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3229-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3229.jpg.html)
(Not bought just yet)
New spindles with correct geometry - 300.00
Roller spring perches - 150.00
Home (http://www.dropnstop.com) - Old school guy makes good stuff. - DropnStop
I did by springs from him:
Mustang GT spring - 60.00 or 80.00 cant remember
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3228-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3228.jpg.html)
Rear leafs 6 leaf:
Ebay seller: found them from oldbleu
220 shipped with bushings
springking0001 on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/usr/springking0001?_trksid=p2047675.l2559)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3230-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3230.jpg.html)
Referneces:
http://www.cometeastcarclub.org/PDFs/SteeringUpgrade.pdf
http://cometeastcarclub.org/Articles/frontendalignment.pdf
FalconEarlyBirds.com (http://www.falconearlybirds.com)
8" Rearend Installation (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php?topic=1199.0)
Shelby Drop (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php/topic,1265.0.html)
Leaf Spring Replacement (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php?topic=1267.0)
V-8 Front Suspension Installation (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php/topic,1261.0.html)
Front End 1 (http://www.joesfalcon.com/page12.html)
Ford Falcon Granada Disk Brake Installation (http://www.fordfalcon2000.com/restoration/diskbrakes.htm)
Chasis Wiring will be Kwik Wire:
Forum buy 150-200 not sure anymore:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3233-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3233.jpg.html)
So far this is my starting point. I have been buying and storing until i feel I have all i need to start.
I will be looking into getting the fuel tank and radiator next. I have an idea already possibly go with the Tanks inc Mustang FI tank and Champion Radiator (ebay)
If you're interested in my background story please proceed to my story below. If you're only interested in what I am building skip the story.
I will be starting a 1963 falcon restomod build project. I am new to fords, my background in classic cars has always revolved around the chevy platform. In parallel with this build I have another build, a 69 Camaro that is my never ending money pit project. So now comes the question of why... The answer is very simple, my wife felt left out that I was building a classic car to enjoy and now she wanted one. I asked what she liked hopping she would say 65 Nova or Chevelle. In the end she said I want a Falcon. I was a bit surprised and thrown off guard, haha. Just to be clear, I have nothing against any manufacturer and I also appreciate all muscle car platforms. All the cars from the muscle car era's are badass to me. I just never worked on any of the ford platform cars or had any background history on mods that are done to them. So a few months of researching and saving up, she decided on the falcon she wanted, a 1963 falcon hardtop. This is where I came in and started my own research. I searched forums after forums trying to get as much info on these cars. The more I read about the car the more I understood what I wanted for her in a falcon :) My decision was now clear, If I am going to build a falcon at minimum it will need to be a v8 model Futura or Sprint. Why a v8? Bucket seats, Disc brakes, fuel injection, aftermarket support and because it's a v8 and I want it.... for her. I need to build something I know she can drive and she will be safe in. The first mods I will plan to do is power disc brakes and suspension then the powertrain. So this is the start of my build. I thank you in advance for all the countless forum posts you have all started here, and on other sites that will help me along the way to finish this build. Onto the good stuff...
Starting point:
1963 Falcon Futura Sprint
Ford V8 302 4 barrel with a C4 floor shift conversion
Original 8" 3.00 rear end
5 lug, Drums non power booster.
Non power steering with a 1 1/8th gear box.
Body is rough... not happy about this part.
Pics
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1499-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1499.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1497-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1497.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1494-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1494.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1501-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1501.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1697-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1697.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1510-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1510.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1509-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1509.jpg.html)
First day home:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_1490-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_1490.jpg.html)
Build Plans:
302 FI Engine
AOD (gearing from R470w) column shift
8" 3.80 Posi Tru Lock
Refurbish/New stock suspension 2" lower
65 Falcon Steering upgrade
Power Brakes
Granda brake (with corrected angle spindles)
Rear ABS Disc brakes
Kwik wire 14 circuit - rewire kit
Painless Engine Harness
Tanks inc Mustang fuel Tank (fuel injection)
There is a lot of other in between stuff I will need to figure out.
New brake lines and fuel lines. I will break down the list a bit more when I get pics of the parts. There are still a lot of parts sourcing to do.
Other Project:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_0700-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Camaro/IMG_0700.jpg.html)
I will break down what I can for my build but if you have any questions do not hesitate to ask I will share the knowledge I gained. Like I said, I am new to fords so if you feel I am forgetting or doing something wrong please let me know.
Plan updates and parts list.
Engine 302 Fi:
302 built and ran in a early Bronco. Picked up from craigslist for 1350.00 after some negotiation.
Engine is rebuilt, unknown milage but very few (under 10,000) from the information I gathered. It also came with a dyno sheet. 330tq at 3400 rpm 240hp at 4400rpm
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_2864-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_2864.jpg.html)
Painless Wiring kit with ecu - Came with Engine. Some cut wires but nothing major. bought addition painless circut kit from ebay to fix it up.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3234-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3234.jpg.html)
References:
EFI 5.0 install (http://www.midnightdsigns.com/Mustang/Engine.htm)
Falcon 5.0 Conversion (http://www.w4wwj.org/Falcon-swap.htm)
B.C. Broncos Fuel Injection (http://www.bcbroncos.com/fuelefi.html)
JamesW's Home Page (http://midnightdsigns.com/james/)
The Falcon/Comet FAQ (http://falconfaq.dyndns.org)
Transmission AOD:
Bought 2, a AOD out of a 90 mustang and a AODE out of a 94 F150 2wd
Both were bought from craigslist 60.00 for the 90 AOD and 50 for the 94 AODE
Took both of them and had the AOD rebuilt, AOD with R470W gearing:
Rebuild cost: Total with trans purchase was a about 1,000
Red Alto clutches, kolene steels, gaskets and Seals
Trickflow pan - Craigslist find
Lokar column shift kit
References:
How to Build the Perfect AOD - AODetail (http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/drivetrain/1407-how-to-build-the-perfect-aod-aodetail/)
Baumann Electronic Controls (http://www.becontrols.com/techguide_3.htm)
Lincolns OnLine | Tech Tips and Articles (http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00111.html)
Lincolns OnLine | Tech Tips and Articles (http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00080.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3220-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3220.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3223-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3223.jpg.html)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3222-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3222.jpg.html)
Torque Convertor Edge Racing 10" 2600 rpm stall
used - Craigslist 350.00
Edge Racing Converters, More Horsepower with More Torque Guaranteed! (http://www.edgeracingconverters.com)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3221-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3221.jpg.html)
Rear end:
Bought a 67 mustang 8"
Rebuilt open diff 2.89 gear? can't remember with new disc brakes
Craigslist - 600.00
I will basically use the brakes and pumpkin and sell the diff and rebuild mine or have this one narrowed. not sure yet.
Bought a yukon Tru trac posi from a seller on ebay with bearing kit and 3.80 ring and pinion - 434.00 shipped for posi and bearing kit and axle bearing kit.
140 shipped for gearing kit. Total 575
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3227-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3227.jpg.html)
Brakes and Suspension:
Granada kit, new 65 falcon steering, and new control arms. 900.00
New but installed on a falcon so a bit rusty now.
Wall to Wall Falcon parts - Russ Wall he has a good amount of hard to find parts. Russ Wall, Azusa, CA (626) 969-8157
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3229-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3229.jpg.html)
(Not bought just yet)
New spindles with correct geometry - 300.00
Roller spring perches - 150.00
Home (http://www.dropnstop.com) - Old school guy makes good stuff. - DropnStop
I did by springs from him:
Mustang GT spring - 60.00 or 80.00 cant remember
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3228-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3228.jpg.html)
Rear leafs 6 leaf:
Ebay seller: found them from oldbleu
220 shipped with bushings
springking0001 on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/usr/springking0001?_trksid=p2047675.l2559)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3230-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3230.jpg.html)
Referneces:
http://www.cometeastcarclub.org/PDFs/SteeringUpgrade.pdf
http://cometeastcarclub.org/Articles/frontendalignment.pdf
FalconEarlyBirds.com (http://www.falconearlybirds.com)
8" Rearend Installation (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php?topic=1199.0)
Shelby Drop (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php/topic,1265.0.html)
Leaf Spring Replacement (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php?topic=1267.0)
V-8 Front Suspension Installation (http://www.falconearlybirds.com/smf1/index.php/topic,1261.0.html)
Front End 1 (http://www.joesfalcon.com/page12.html)
Ford Falcon Granada Disk Brake Installation (http://www.fordfalcon2000.com/restoration/diskbrakes.htm)
Chasis Wiring will be Kwik Wire:
Forum buy 150-200 not sure anymore:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/05/IMG_3233-1.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/user/jorgezee1/media/Falcon/IMG_3233.jpg.html)
So far this is my starting point. I have been buying and storing until i feel I have all i need to start.
I will be looking into getting the fuel tank and radiator next. I have an idea already possibly go with the Tanks inc Mustang FI tank and Champion Radiator (ebay)