JDM Fad

[Nothingface5384]

Does this make any other guy shake his head and laugh
i just dont get the point in extreme camber kit cars.
rims the stick past the tires.
tires that sidewalls are soo stretched that they still fail to fit the rim
car soo low they get stuck on a departure of main road into parking lots..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ShYYUQwY0

slammed Subaru gets stuck at H2O 2012: http://youtu.be/w4oAKOCRy9g

[ChevelleNV]

way too low....cars worthless like that.... and yes i do shake my head and laugh... :)

[Nothingface5384]

They call this a competition lol
Its JDM Yo x Royal Origin - Think You Can Stance Competition: http://youtu.be/dhq7McZKRqY

[ChevelleNV]

They call this a competition lol
Its JDM Yo x Royal Origin - Think You Can Stance Competition: http://youtu.be/dhq7McZKRqY

Really..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/3cd8a33a-1.png

[Spork82]

I'm a former import guy and that always made me shake my head, completely useless and dangerous. I drove a friend's Integra and even in the dry it pushed like a sob in every corner and forget about braking!

[vintageracer]

These "ricer" cars are kinda like trying to build a PT car with too low a front cross member, long tube handing headers, 20 inch rubber band tires and more just like we talked about in another thread.

USELESS!

Low, cool and look good (Matter of opinion) or useful fantastic driving upgraded vintage car.

Tuner Import versus a drivable PT car!

I guess you could also throw "Low Rider's" in there too however there HUGE differences.

At least the go "Low and Slow"!

[Nothingface5384]

I guess you could also throw "Low Rider's" in there too however there HUGE differences. At least the go "Low and Slow"!
low riders typically have some form of air ride so atleast they can drive everywhere and not have to attempt to Depart at an angle in hopes to not get stuck in a lot like these idiots..
but yeah i do i agree

[Space Dynamics]

I don't like it, but then I think to myself "atleast they are into cars..."

[MrQuick]

To each their own, car guys are guys.

[Nothingface5384]

Can you also say that about lifted 4x4 conversions on classics,
Or donks?
Naw lol

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/91sn32Q-1.jpg

[shmoov69]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/91sn32Q-1.jpg

Lmao!

[rickierockit92]

around my way near good ole Philadelphia it is big. Not my style but they definitely are into their cars. they know some stuff too (except good taste) that being said.. they have some of the finest babes following them. from SOWO to H20I. the girls are dope. if only the dimes knew how stupid it looks and how good our rides look :cheers:

[Nothingface5384]

Yeah i wish my car was setup like this to have the babes follow j/k lolCrazy camber Kawashima Celica leaving the Nagoya Exciting Car Showdown: http://youtu.be/zhT3C9mHLZ4

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

I respect that dude for doing the extreme like that.. I wouldnt do it.. so I respect the fact that there is someone out there with the stones to do it KNOWING that people would absolutely hate it.

look at it like this.. Thats a CELICA... LOL!.. plus its front wheel drive.. who cares how stupid it looks.. Im glad it exists!


I for one have no problem with the stretched tire look and a little tuck and poke.. mainly cause I personally see its look potential.. especially if its done TASTEFUL.. And im originally from the VW scene before I got here.
Im mainly a FUNCTION guy.. I still do stuff just for the look here and there and dont care what people think.. I have fun with cars..

more than anything.. the young will always be there.. and sometimes seeing it from their side is fun now and then..Im just glad they like CARS!

[Justin@EntropyRad]

around my way near good ole Philadelphia it is big. Not my style but they definitely are into their cars. they know some stuff too (except good taste) that being said.. they have some of the finest babes following them. from SOWO to H20I. the girls are dope. if only the dimes knew how stupid it looks and how good our rides look :cheers:


Philly is deep with real nice VIP cars as well...the Liberty guys have clean stuff. As far as the car models go, they are only "hot" when you put them next to cars,they are like a 10-footer build on a car...get up close and it's rough. Many of them have a body that could stop a truck, but a face that got hit by one

As a reformed Ricer myself..I cannot stand the "Stance, bro" setup..and would appreciate the effort, but these kids often buy the cheapest, most dangerous parts, then drop 3k on wheels(with way too small tires), then kill their fenders..and go for internet fame

It's spreading to diesel-douche trucks too..."stretched tires" on F250/F350..and they get "squatted' in the rear

End of sermon...sorry

[HPIcustoms]

Personally, as an import guy and one who's been in the import scene since he was 14 years old (now 13 years to this day).
There's a difference with the whole "groups/ communities" in the import world. Some cars are made to look ridiculous with loud pipes that are 3 feet fast the bumper, huge spoilers, aggressive aero kits, obnoxious bright paint, covered in decals and of course the ridiculous camber also.

Then you have the guys who do it properly like myself, with performance, functionality, a little bit of comfort and safety in mind with a touch of my own personal taste. My '89 Nissan 240sx and my '93 JDM Subaru WRX are examples of this. My Nissan has $12,000 into performance mods, mostly the engine and the suspension, along with some candy apple red paint and an aero kit. Then my Subaru is also my "sleeper" car, all money into the engine and suspension and a simple paint job with the only flashy thing being my engine bay paint and wheel paint. Both cars have proper amount of tread and built with high quality branded parts, not Ebay stuff.

Myself I love drift cars and the auto-cross cars, so I'm a Nissan and Subaru enthusiast. But I keep my cars clean looking to set myself apart from those new fads and trends that have made their way over here and all kids have adapted as their "style" because its a trend. It will soon be gone and make way for the new trend/ fad, and then soon that will be gone and onto the next one.

At least these kids are into cars, now what can be done to help them even more? Is educate them on actual performance because a lot of them don't know how or what to do. They just order off line and get their stuff installed by someone or a shop that's willing to do so.

Personally I hate the whole "Stance this" and "Stance that" movement, its ridiculous and dangerous. We can only hope it will be done with soon.
/ rant

[shmoov69]

I just something today that said "sweet, you put $4,000 rims on your civic, that's like your grandma getting a boob job!"

Thought that was fitting in this thread! LoL!

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Personally, as an import guy and one who's been in the import scene since he was 14 years old (now 13 years to this day).
There's a difference with the whole "groups/ communities" in the import world. Some cars are made to look ridiculous with loud pipes that are 3 feet fast the bumper, huge spoilers, aggressive aero kits, obnoxious bright paint, covered in decals and of course the ridiculous camber also.

Then you have the guys who do it properly like myself, with performance, functionality, a little bit of comfort and safety in mind with a touch of my own personal taste. My '89 Nissan 240sx and my '93 JDM Subaru WRX are examples of this. My Nissan has $12,000 into performance mods, mostly the engine and the suspension, along with some candy apple red paint and an aero kit. Then my Subaru is also my "sleeper" car, all money into the engine and suspension and a simple paint job with the only flashy thing being my engine bay paint and wheel paint. Both cars have proper amount of tread and built with high quality branded parts, not Ebay stuff.

Myself I love drift cars and the auto-cross cars, so I'm a Nissan and Subaru enthusiast. But I keep my cars clean looking to set myself apart from those new fads and trends that have made their way over here and all kids have adapted as their "style" because its a trend. It will soon be gone and make way for the new trend/ fad, and then soon that will be gone and onto the next one.

At least these kids are into cars, now what can be done to help them even more? Is educate them on actual performance because a lot of them don't know how or what to do. They just order off line and get their stuff installed by someone or a shop that's willing to do so.

Personally I hate the whole "Stance this" and "Stance that" movement, its ridiculous and dangerous. We can only hope it will be done with soon.
/ rant

Evan,

Sounds like we are in the same boat..trying to clutch to real JDM cars while the rest of the stuff around us changes. If you stumble across an R33 roller, or complete car...please let me know..my built S14 is just tiding me over for now.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/my240_zpsuvc3qno6-1.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigjussin/media/my240_zpsuvc3qno6.jpeg.html)

[HPIcustoms]

Evan,

Sounds like we are in the same boat..trying to clutch to real JDM cars while the rest of the stuff around us changes. If you stumble across an R33 roller, or complete car...please let me know..my built S14 is just tiding me over for now.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/my240_zpsuvc3qno6-1.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigjussin/media/my240_zpsuvc3qno6.jpeg.html)

Agreed on that Justin, the import scene in my province is totally flip flop. You have the dedicated tuner guys, and then you have the ricers, and of course the trend/ fad followers. Friend of mine has an R33 GTR V-Spec he's looking to sell. Solid twin turbo RB26 in it. Also have another friend in Calgary, Alberta looking to sell his R33 GTST, its clean and fast, driven it many times. He'd probably trade plus cash for your S14.

Canada is full of R33 selling for cheap, especially the RB20 through RB26 engines. Great for swaps into the S-Chassis.

[sccacuda]

Agreed on that Justin, the import scene in my province is totally flip flop. You have the dedicated tuner guys, and then you have the ricers, and of course the trend/ fad followers. Friend of mine has an R33 GTR V-Spec he's looking to sell. Solid twin turbo RB26 in it. Also have another friend in Calgary, Alberta looking to sell his R33 GTST, its clean and fast, driven it many times. He'd probably trade plus cash for your S14.

Canada is full of R33 selling for cheap, especially the RB20 through RB26 engines. Great for swaps into the S-Chassis.

I now understand the look on my wife's face when I start talking about something and she has no clue what the hell I'm talking about.... "I'm sure those numbers and letters are important, but I don't know what your talking about...."

[HPIcustoms]

I now understand the look on my wife's face when I start talking about something and she has no clue what the hell I'm talking about.... "I'm sure those numbers and letters are important, but I don't know what your talking about...."

Hahaha, mu girlfriend is the same way when I start talking about cars, especially import ones.

Education lesson:
All Nissan 240sx cars are designated by a chassis code, much likes domestics. These being S12, (1988 and older), S13 (1989-1994), S14 (1995-1998) and S15 (1999 and up).
The Nissan 240sx is called a 240sx due to its KA24DE/ KA24E engine which is a 2.4L dual overhead or single overhead cam.
Also, in Japan they have a 180sx variant called this because of their CA18DET engines which are 1.8 litre dual overhead cam.
Also available are the SR20DET engine which are 2.0L and dual overhead.
JDM S13, S14 and S15 models are commonly known as Nissan Silvia

Then you have the Nissan Skyline, otherwise known as "Godzilla" in its GTR form.
All Skylines are designated by R chassis codes. These being R30, R31, R32, R33, R34
These cars have any of the following engines, RB20DET, RB25DET and RB26DETT. There's several variations of all these engines for certain internals, race spec engines, non-turbo and etc. These cars are also known by their trims of "GT", "GT-S", "GTST", "GTR". There is also several other sub-trim codes to those mentioned depending on aero package, suspensions etc.
The GTR being the monster of them all, all whee drive, manual, twin turbo 2.6L and a ton of factory option race goodies like bigger brakes, lightweight wheels, exhausts, clutch systems, driver controlled differentials etc. The Skyline is also offered in RWD and AWD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline

[ICrombie]

There are some pretty cool trends in JDM like using some unique matte colors like olive drab, splitters & air dams, etc. And then of course there is the bad: widebody kits, large exhaust tips, tow hooks, insane camber and others.

[rickierockit92]

Philly is deep with real nice VIP cars as well...the Liberty guys have clean stuff. As far as the car models go, they are only "hot" when you put them next to cars,they are like a 10-footer build on a car...get up close and it's rough. Many of them have a body that could stop a truck, but a face that got hit by one

As a reformed Ricer myself..I cannot stand the "Stance, bro" setup..and would appreciate the effort, but these kids often buy the cheapest, most dangerous parts, then drop 3k on wheels(with way too small tires), then kill their fenders..and go for internet fame

It's spreading to diesel-douche trucks too..."stretched tires" on F250/F350..and they get "squatted' in the rear

End of sermon...sorry

hahaha! guess thats why my girl is from boston :rotfl: ...

on a trendy note.. sadly my buddies are going for the big lifted diesels and it makes me crazy. they dont even live near an area they can offroad .. they drive like s*** on the highway .. idk maybe we are the ones that are foolish with the upgradede suspension, braking, engine??? hahaha!

[Buryingthesun]

hahaha! guess thats why my girl is from boston :rotfl: ...

on a trendy note.. sadly my buddies are going for the big lifted diesels and it makes me crazy. they dont even live near an area they can offroad .. they drive like s*** on the highway .. idk maybe we are the ones that are foolish with the upgradede suspension, braking, engine??? hahaha!

Thats the new trend for all the kids out my way. Cummins stickers and stacks, God its obnoxious because none of them use the trucks. It newer F350's and Dodges to boot. . . no ones going to take them into the woods and use thos 36's

I didn't come from imports my roots are planted in american muscle and gassers, but ive been known to whip up some fast imports. One being a 2002 Acura RSX drag car running high 9's (very impressive for a FWD car like that) a few honda S2000 track cars and a few nissan 240sx cars. I can not stand the wild off set and stretched tires, but like all things kids have the new trends then they die off. . . no biggie I suppose.

[Nothingface5384]

Trucks that are lifted with big winches or rock sliders
.that never see anything but pavement is dubbed mall crawlers

Gas trucks with stacks or diesel with like an 8in plus single stack is lame
so is diesel smoking a car next.to you

I used to be big into 79-95 toyota scene

Yep the import scene is pretty diverse
I only respect the tuner portion
Not the idiot ricers or jdm wannabes

Ill get me a real import oneday
Thinking rx4 since i used to have an rx7 briefly

I guess the point is theirs as much tastless **** in various auto scenes their are tasteful amd we just have to accept it and hope it fades away...

[Justin@EntropyRad]

It's evolutionary indeed. Preferences change, but so may of the new fads are half-assed and unsafe, it makes me cringe.

I've had 67 cars/trucks/motorcycles in my now 17 years of driving life..no two were exactly the same, and still lust for more.

Only 1 car has ever scared the tootsie roll out of me...a near 680whp '03 Porsche 996 TT car...accelerated faster than my current bike, still hung corners, and stopped hard enough to detach a retina...that's probably a $55k car right now

My next car will be old, domestic/import hybrid, and be on a budget build thread on here...it will tick off some of the purists, but isn't that the point of doing what you like, instead of what "they" say to do?

[CamaroMike]

There is a difference between import enthusiast and stance guys. When I hear JDM I think of anything made in Japan that we couldn't get in the States so you have to ship it over. It has always appealed to me because its something you don't see every day and its not easy to get a hold of. I enjoy tracking all my junk but some people just like to hang out in parking lots, but hey whatever floats your boat!

These are some of my old cars that I consider "JDM"

Surprisingly this got a lot of attention a few years ago when i had it

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/319859_481250671932480_1806955973_n_zpsg-1.jpg (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/timeattacks14/media/319859_481250671932480_1806955973_n_zpsg3bfbrvc.jp g.html)

1G-GTE Soarer/Supra engine swapped into a US spec AE86 chassis:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/E4C6E0D25EBF48079B82588F602B59F232820000-1.jpg (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/timeattacks14/media/Past%20Vehicles/E4C6E0D2-5EBF-4807-9B82-588F602B59F2-3282-000002DCC3FB5530_zpsd72de2f1.jpg.html)

And this RB26DET (skyline GTR) I swapped into a US spec S14:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/196346_481246338599580_1547219128_n_zpsa-1.jpg (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/timeattacks14/media/196346_481246338599580_1547219128_n_zpsax00vsgk.jp g.html)

This was just a US spec s13 but it was cool

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/302663_437492946308253_1308972092_n_zpsm-1.jpg (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/timeattacks14/media/302663_437492946308253_1308972092_n_zpsmpvxgbft.jp g.html)


They function (ish) too!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/03/4652543120130609122132_CRS4171_zps3d405e-1.jpg (http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/timeattacks14/media/Past%20Vehicles/46525431-2013-06-09-12-21-32_CRS4171_zps3d405ee1.jpg.html)


I got rid of all of them and got some more old Camaros lol

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

^ you made a good choice to do so... lol

[mmosley]

Only 1 car has ever scared the tootsie roll out of me...a near 680whp '03 Porsche 996 TT car...accelerated faster than my current bike, still hung corners, and stopped hard enough to detach a retina...that's probably a $55k car right now

All this talk of JDM cars... and a Porsche gave me a flashback. I used to be a design engineer for a Japanese company. I was their only non-Japanese system design engineer. When the expats would come visit they were sometimes put up to a "challenge", Japanese speak for a triple dog dare, to go for a ride in the old car I had in the parking lot. My 1968 Barracuda with a 7.3L 550hp engine. Most of these guys drove "kei" cars back home. The little 1000Kg 550cc cars that fit in the lowest tax group. In some areas you have to own a parking space before you can buy a car, and, in some of those areas the "kei" cars are the only cars exempt from the rule. Most of them had never been in a car with more than 2.0L, and if they had it was a large sedan. When I told them 7.3L they shook their heads in disbelief. Surely their English translation was not registering correctly - so I would spell it out for them in Japanese. A ride in the car would clear things up. Some you could tell did not care for it, others loved it.

So, on one of my trips to Kumamoto I got set up. We went to visit a sub-contractor in the Kikuyo area (suburb of Kumamoto, Kyushu). At the end of our factory tour the owner invited us to lunch. He pulled me aside - "I hear you like fast car"... "Hai, so desu" (of course)... "Good, you ride with me" and points a thumb at himself, "I have fast car"... So, I am thinking what, maybe a nice Skyline, or something else appropriate to the local. We walk out back and there sits a Ruff TT Porsche. Big flares, whale tail, full cage, race seats, 5 pt harnesses, huge rims and tires - and the kicker, it is left hand drive. We got in and he fired that thing up - whoa, what a beast. We took the long way to the restaurant and still got there first. On the way back he let me drive. I did not go all in, but I did push the pedal to the floor a few times and let it get a little loose on a few corner exits. This was the older variety of Porsche before they tamed the rear suspension, you have to be careful or you will end up facing the wrong direction pretty fast.

When we got back my co-workers were curious as to my impression. I told them it was an excellent machine. The owner had a good laugh.

[shmoov69]

Too cool!

[HPIcustoms]

Those are some nice toys CamaroMike. Always loved the 86 also, can't find clean ones over here worth buying, and the ones that are, cost a fortune because of the inflation. Same thing goes for 240sx cars up here, we call it "drift tax", not uncommon to see Joe Blow selling is 240sx that's completely stock, has 200,000kms, auto or a beat up manual, horrible paint etc for $7,000 to $10,000 all just because of the JDM fad craze that's fired up, especially the whole drift craze.

I remember back in 2009 when I had my 240sx swapped with a Skyline RB20DET and modified to hell, that it was "ugly" from everyone... Now they're worth oh so much and the "cool" thing to have because people caught on, yet I was years ahead of the game haha, makes me shake my head.

And agree majority of the modifications they do is unsafe and done very half-assed. Hence why our local Police department has looked to cash in on the whole JDM fad. They started a seperate Vehicle Inspection Unit (VIU) that specifically looks for modified cars, right hand drive cars etc and tickets them. You get an automatic $297 ticket PLUS whatever else they ding you for (wheel camber, aftermarket exhaust, tint, wheel width, tire condition, ride height, etc), the kicker is they leave all the huge over lifted trucks alone which is pretty annoying since there's so many pavement queens where I am.

[CamaroMike]

Thanks Evan!

You are right, not long ago the schassis were just ricers but now everyone wants them. I still have one left, it's an all original s14 that still has the original CD player, not sure what I'm going to do with it yet. Even down in Alabama a spray painted dented schassis with a laundry list of problems are $5k. Cash for clunkers driving used car prices higher didn't help either...

It's cool seeing other import guys on protouring forums though!

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Thanks Evan!

You are right, not long ago the schassis were just ricers but now everyone wants them. I still have one left, it's an all original s14 that still has the original CD player, not sure what I'm going to do with it yet. Even down in Alabama a spray painted dented schassis with a laundry list of problems are $5k. Cash for clunkers driving used car prices higher didn't help either...

It's cool seeing other import guys on protouring forums though!

My bretheren...still keeping my S14 NOT DRIFTED..just a street car that's clean