A new project

[Kevin@W2W]

Thought some of your guys might enjoy this.:)

http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-novabuild-2.aspx

[F70t/a]

Damn that is gonna be a wicked nova :drool:

[camcojb]

Well, now that looks familiar! :cool: Gonna be a very cool project, keep the updates coming.

Jody

[kmcanally]

can't wait to see some pics....kinda reminds me of Kevin Thompsons 65 Chevelle. It is only a sleeper until he start the engine!

http://www.sleeperbu.homestead.com/

[Kevin@W2W]

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.


Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.

RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!

ET simulation 20.39 seconds !!!!!

Who wants some:lol:

[96Z28SS]

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.


Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.

RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!

ET simulation 20.39 seconds !!!!!

Who wants some:lol:

Kevin,
on the webpage it says 402 boost ready crate engine.

Umm can you PM me what a boost ready crate engine might cost from you guys, even just an estimate would be good.

[Kevin@W2W]

Kevin,
on the webpage it says 402 boost ready crate engine.

Umm can you PM me what a boost ready crate engine might cost from you guys, even just an estimate would be good.

I was waiting for someone to catch that.

The engine along with information and pricing will be released at SEMA this year.

Out of respect I won't go into details here considering we are not an actual sponsor at this time.

[camcojb]

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.


Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.

RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!

ET simulation 20.39 seconds !!!!!

Who wants some:lol:


I totally believe those numbers. That was a wild ride getting it over to my house, let me tell 'ya! :drive2:

Jody

[69Nova]

That is a awsome project. Please change the wheels to something better, like those dog dish hubcaps that came on the COPO cars.

Andrew Petty

[Kevin@W2W]

I totally believe those numbers. That was a wild ride getting it over to my house, let me tell 'ya! :drive2:

Jody

:lol:

I tried brake tourqing it a bit in the parking lot when I took the pics.

Not so much!:lol:

The car is pretty solid though.




Copo caps would be way cool. I love dog dish stock looking caps like that.

[MrQuick]

thats cool, Exterior Soap and water <---------now thats funny!
Can't wait to see this build, I've built a couple in the past and they are fun besides the rust!

[Bill Howell]

I totally believe those numbers. That was a wild ride getting it over to my house, let me tell 'ya! :drive2:

Jody
?????????????
nova+you drove it to your house=reason for camaro sale=your new project ???????

Or have I got too much time on my hands today?lol

Oh, and don't let jackass know about useing COPO caps, he would have a duck! :lmao:

[Kevin@W2W]

Here are a few pics of the motor and kit which will be used in the Nova. Just arrived back from Sema today.:)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[F70t/a]

:drool: :drool: Holy sh*t

[Kenova]

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.


Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.

RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!

ET simulation 20.39 seconds !!!!!

Who wants some:lol:
:worship: Damn, that thing has (had) more balls than my Vega!
Ken

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Here are a few pics of the motor and kit which will be used in the Nova. Just arrived back from Sema today.:)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif


WOW! We may possibly be looking at what is to become the greatest sleeper ever built my man. Just don't open the hood!

[JMarsa]

Kevin,

Can you share how much the whole assembly (both 'chargers, mounting plate w/ pulleys) weighs? Also, how about accessories with that mount?

Thank,

--JMarsa

[69Nova]

That motor could make your nova the coolest nova ever. But if you feel like you would like a nicer nova to install that motor in just let me know.:3gears:

[yody]

are those the new or whatever chargers that were in PHR this month?

[Jagarang]

Thanks guys, I'll keep you posted.


Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.

RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!

ET simulation 20.39 seconds !!!!!

Who wants some:lol:

I couldn't help myself....

Kevin of W2W went down to Florida, he was looking for a car to steal.
He was in a bind 'cos he(the devil)was way behind: he was rushin’ to make the deal.
When he came across this young man sawin' on a Pontiac and makin' it hot.
And the devil jumped upon a shop stool and said: "Boy let me tell you what:
"I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a car builder too.
"And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
"Now you run a pretty good builder, ol boy, but give W2W their due:
"I bet my Nova of mold against own, 'cos I think I'm quicker than you."
The boy said: "My name's Kevin to and it might be a win,
"But I'll take your bet, your gonna regret, 'cos I'm faster than that's ever been."

Kevin warm up your motor and race your f-body hard.
'Cos the devil my brake loose in Florida or the Nova may hook up hard.
And if I win I’ll get his dingy Nova made of mold.
But if I lose, the devil gets my car.

The devil opened up his trailer and he said: "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from his exaust tips as he revved up his stock motor?.
And he pulled the car into the lane and it made an evil hiss.
Then a stab of the gas and the smoke started to pour, I started to think holy ****.
When the devil finished, Kevin said: "Well you're pretty good ol' son.
"But if you'll sit down in that seat, right there, and let me show you how its done."

Fire up those engines, run boys, run.
The devil's in the land of the startin gun.
Devil in the left hand, Kevin in the right hand.
"Kevin, will your tires bite?"
"God I hope so!"

Then Kevin bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
He laid the keys to that Firebird on the ground at the devil’s feet.
The Devil said: "Kevin just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you dumb young gun, I'm the baddest six cylinder that's ever been."

As he prayed to fire up the motor, and run boy, run.
The devil's in the winnin lane again.
Kevin in the left hand watchin him go.
"Kevin, will your tires bite?"
"God I’d hoped so!"



My names Kevin, and it might be a sin, but I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cuz I'm faster than thats ever been!--losely quoted

Isn't this pic of the stock straight six with a pretty blue dress up kit on it?

I'm so going to OWN you KEVIN!

Here are a few pics of the motor and kit which will be used in the Nova. Just arrived back from Sema today.:)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Kevin@W2W]

My names Kevin, and it might be a sin, but I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cuz I'm faster than thats ever been!--losely quoted

Isn't this the stock straight six with a dress up kit!

I'm so going to OWN you KEVIN!



hahaha! Bring it women;)



These are the units that have made their way into a few magazines in the past few months.

I'll get some wieght figures and other information this morning. The head units are very light compared to others I have seen.

[Kevin@W2W]

I couldn't help myself....

Kevin of W2W went down to Florida, he was looking for a car to steal.
He was in a bind 'cos he(the devil)was way behind: he was rushin’ to make the deal.
When he came across this young man sawin' on a Pontiac and makin' it hot.
And the devil jumped upon a shop stool and said: "Boy let me tell you what:
"I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a car builder too.
"And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.
"Now you run a pretty good builder, ol boy, but give W2W their due:
"I bet my Nova of mold against own, 'cos I think I'm quicker than you."
The boy said: "My name's Kevin to and it might be a win,
"But I'll take your bet, your gonna regret, 'cos I'm faster than that's ever been."

Kevin warm up your motor and race your f-body hard.
'Cos the devil my brake loose in Florida or the Nova may hook up hard.
And if I win I’ll get his dingy Nova made of mold.
But if I lose, the devil gets my car.

The devil opened up his trailer and he said: "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from his exaust tips as he revved up his stocker?.
And he pulled the car into the lane and it made an evil hiss.
Then a stab of the gas and the smoke started to pour, I started to think holy ****.
When the devil finished, Kevin said: "Well you're pretty good ol' son.
"But if you'll sit down in that seat, right there, and let me show you how its done."

Fire up those engines, run boys, run.
The devil's in the land of the startin gun.
Devil in the left hand, Kevin in the right hand.
"Kevin, will your tires bite?"
"God I hope so!"

Then Kevin bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
He laid the keys to that Firebird on the ground at the devil’s feet.
The Devil said: "Kevin just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you dumb young gun, I'm the baddest six cylinder that's ever been."

As he prayed to fire up the motor, and run boy, run.
The devil's in the winnin lane again.
Kevin in the left hand watchin him go.
"Kevin, will your tires bite?"
"God I’d hoped so!"



My names Kevin, and it might be a sin, but I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cuz I'm faster than thats ever been!--losely quoted

Isn't this pic of the stock straight six with a pretty blue dress up kit on it?

I'm so going to OWN you KEVIN!



Too funny:)

But yet another classic example of the nice guy finishing last again:(

[DJW32]

That motor is beautiful.:hail: W2W

[ProTeal55]

Awesome setup

[Kevin@W2W]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

We have started work on the Nova.
Feel free to check the page for some updates.

http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-novabuild-2.aspx

[Travis B]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

We have started work on the Nova.
Feel free to check the page for some updates.

http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-novabuild-2.aspx


So far so good huh.....that car looks to be very solid. that Wilson manifolds elbow is badass......I am assuming the turbo plumbing is going to go inside the car?? What are you going to run for intercoolers?? air to air....Air to water?

[Kevin@W2W]

The car is really solid, not too much replacing at all besides the floor patches and the panel underneath the rear windo.

The intercooler system will consist of two air to water units and use a Precision Turbo elbow rather than the Wilson. All plumbing will remain under hood and our preliminary plans are pretty trick although the may change down stream a bit.

[Travis B]

The car is really solid, not too much replacing at all besides the floor patches and the panel underneath the rear windo.

The intercooler system will consist of two air to water units and use a Precision Turbo elbow rather than the Wilson. All plumbing will remain under hood and our preliminary plans are pretty trick although the may change down stream a bit.

the only reason I asked if it was going to go inside is because it looked as though it would be the way the elbow was facing.....plans always change downstream....lol mine sure have anyway

[Kevin@W2W]

Always have to allow for change. lol

Looking at the pics it makes sense to run through the firewall like some of the big drag cars but we want to keep everything stealthy so we will do something a little different. It is in theory right now but looks like it may work.

[NvrDun71]

Can't wait to see the end result Kevin.... Should be an awsome car once complete. I have never really seen a high dollar top notch build out of one of the 68-72 bodystyle Nova's, but have always wanted to see one. Def keep us posted on the progress of tha car....

[dhardison]

Here are a few pics of the motor and kit which will be used in the Nova. Just arrived back from Sema today.:)

All I can say is WOW!!! :jawdrop: I can't wait to see some progress!

Dan

[dhardison]

Kevin, Your product page states that the Rotrex C38-71 twin kit won't fit in an F-body. Being that the '68-'74 Novas front subframe are so similar to the '67-'69 F-body, how do you plan on shoehorning that gorgeous assembly in the Nova?

Dan

[vanzuuk1]

What a cool car!

[Kevin@W2W]

Kevin, Your product page states that the Rotrex C38-71 twin kit won't fit in an F-body. Being that the '68-'74 Novas front subframe are so similar to the '67-'69 F-body, how do you plan on shoehorning that gorgeous assembly in the Nova?

Dan

Thanks for the kind words guys. I'll make sure to keep posting updates as I we progress.

Dan, The F-body that poses a problem is the late model LS1 F-body. The hoodline will not clear the bracket.

Our dual kit is designed more for the engine swap crowd.

[Kevin@W2W]

A little more progress has been made. Since I thought the set up was very cool I thought I would post these pictures in the tread so they would be a little larger.

The twins appear to have no hood line issues.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif


After quite a few ideas for packaging the intercooler set up the wasted space between the fender and the firewall has been converted.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif


Here is the intercooler mock up for the drivers side.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Next update should be cage and suspension :)

[Travis B]

very cool.....those should be completely hidden once the fenders are installed very nice!

[B Cichocki]

Those look like air/air intercoolers (excuse me if they're not). If so, how do you plan on getting adequate airflow? Just curious since I'm wondering if I'm going to have enough airflow for the front-mount in my car.

-Brian

[B Cichocki]

Never mind...just saw they're air to water.

[MrQuick]

Looks good Kevin, keep up with the updates please. There is alot of clean air flow in them cowls, thats where the vents gets its air flow from. Clean high pressure from the base of the windshield.

What frame mounts are you using?

[69Nova]

Wow that looks nice. Are those the DSE body mounts?

[Kevin@W2W]

Hey guys. The body mounts were made in house by our machinist. The cage is coming along pretty nice and I plan to shoot it when they clean up a little bit. We all know how messy it gets during the cutting up stage.

How is this for a little subframe support:)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Travis B]

very cool.....I have been seeing a few subframe cut the center lately...it looks nice I just may have to cut a-body frame there as well :fingersx:

[Kevin@W2W]

very cool.....I have been seeing a few subframe cut the center lately...it looks nice I just may have to cut a-body frame there as well :fingersx:

It sure frees up a little room down there and we all know it pleases the little fabricated look fetish some of us cars guys have.:)

[Kevin@W2W]

Here is a few of the intercooler plumbing going together

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What's cool about this pic is what you don't see
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Ah, there is the main hoop:)
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[dhardison]

Kevin you have a PM. The Nova's lookin' GREAT!

Dan

[[email protected]]

Very nice....that thing is going to fly!!

[Travis B]

I like your plumbing under the dash like that...very cool

[MrQuick]

second that...looks nice Kevin. thats alot of plumbing but you should not see alot when its back together.

[Kevin@W2W]

Some new pics as promised.

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[dhardison]

Again, all I can say is WOW!!!!!!

[DJW32]

AAHHHHHH! These are great pictures!... please keep them coming...

Kevin,
I have a few questions:
1. Is that a shelby on the other side of the nova? If so, can we get some details? The 66 427 shelby is my Second most favorite car.

2. Can we get some pics of whole engine bay with intercooler pipes?

3. What are you going to do about the exhaust? are you going to dump it before the axle?

thanks, david

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thats going to be a monster!! Keep the pics coming. As many as you want.
Are those exhaust pipes I see coming thru the floor board? The round tubes? Or are those just notches for the pipes to run under?

[Kevin@W2W]

Thats going to be a monster!! Keep the pics coming. As many as you want.
Are those exhaust pipes I see coming thru the floor board? The round tubes? Or are those just notches for the pipes to run under?

Thanks for the kind words guys.

The tubes are reliefs patched into the floor for the exhaust considering the size and the low rid height intended for the car.

[MuscleRodz]

Looks like one wild ride. Choosing the right wheels will be everything to keeping the ultimate sleeper look. I like the way the cage was done in the trunk. I had planned the same type of down tubes, but the crosstube is what makes it all work.Mike

[Kevin@W2W]

Looks like one wild ride. Choosing the right wheels will be everything to keeping the ultimate sleeper look. I like the way the cage was done in the trunk. I had planned the same type of down tubes, but the crosstube is what makes it all work.Mike


It will roll on 15" steelies;)

One reason why the front rotors are a little smaller.

[MuscleRodz]

Cool. What about the 16" steel ralleys that are basicly 15" centers on 16" hoops? Quite a few more performance tire choices.Mike

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Insanity! This car is going to be amazing when complete. Keep the pics coming.

[69Nova]

This car is freaking awsome. I cant wait to see it done.

[NvrDun71]

:drool:

[JMarsa]

kevin,

Did you do the cage in house? I'm looking for a nice tight fitting one like that in the Detroit area.

--JMarsa

[Kevin@W2W]

kevin,

Did you do the cage in house? I'm looking for a nice tight fitting one like that in the Detroit area.

--JMarsa

Yes sir, all of our fabrication is done in house including tube bending.

Our fabrication abilities can be seen here.
http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-services_fab-2.aspx

[c.schulz]

Isnt this Stielows car??

Chris

[Kevin@W2W]

Isnt this Stielows car??

Chris


No, this is a vehicle we are building for the 06 Powertour as well as the pump gas drags.

It will be up for sale after the season.

[Steve Firebird]

I had to jump in and say holy Cr@p! I am a complete novice to this stuff and it's like I just discovered sex or something. I am amazed at what you and others are able to do with the cars. Now if I just had some talent, vision and oh ya some money I would be all set. Keep the pics coming. I think I need to look into taking some welding classes at the local tech school.

[JamesD]

Wow, that cage is invisible from the outside, very nice work.

[JoshStratton]

mmmkay. That is retardedly sick.

I have never used a roll cage or looked at one too in depth. How do you have the bars from the frame attached to the part in the cage? Do you just slip them through the cut-outs and bolt them up?

Congrats on some great work!

[Reckless]

The Cobra is a customer car. Is it a kit we are building for the customer. 427 FE motor with a 5-speed. Should be pretty fun!

[DJW32]

The Nova is running! See for yourself, second picture on the top row
http://www.1320video.com/gallery/compcams?page=8

Does anyone have pictures of the final supercharger plumbing? An update would be nice:twothumbs

[96Z28SS]

yeah if its running then we need some pics!!!

[427]

It is running!! If you go to the Thursday test session the pics of the Nova and its engine are on page 3 or 4. Best ET on 93 octane was [email protected].

Kurt
yeah if its running then we need some pics!!!

[JMarsa]

Holly Shiznit!! I knew that this thing was going to rock. Kurt, you guys will be seeing a fool and his money part ways!

--JMarsa

[DJW32]

Here are the pics
http://www.1320video.com/gallery/pgd-tnt?page=4

Can we get the pics of the car in the shop? We (I) would like to see all the plumbing with no front sheet metal, please. Can we see the entire build pics? That would be cool...

[69Nova]

Now thats a cool looking car.

[trapin]

That thing did 9 seconds????!!!!

That might be the coolest Nova ever in history.

Rupp where the hell are you? PHR should be all over this thing.

[427]

We are changing the engine over to its 16 injector system for power tour. After the tour a 8 second slip will be the goal, but it might be reaching to far, but you need to have goals!!

Kurt
That thing did 9 seconds????!!!!

That might be the coolest Nova ever in history.

Rupp where the hell are you? PHR should be all over this thing.

[427]

Some pics of the car with the front clip off are on our website.
www.W2Wpowertrain.com (http://www.W2Wpowertrain.com)

Kurt
Here are the pics
http://www.1320video.com/gallery/pgd-tnt?page=4

Can we get the pics of the car in the shop? We (I) would like to see all the plumbing with no front sheet metal, please. Can we see the entire build pics? That would be cool...

[Kenova]

AAAWWW, come on guys, at least give the old girl a good buffin'.
A nine second car with a rusty rear bumper. Ya gotta love it!
Ken

[DJW32]

Beautiful!

Are the gas tanks baffled?

Nice trailier hitch...

[Kenova]

Nice trailier hitch...

:lmao: What kind of time time slip can you get pulling an 18' bass boat?
Ken

[BigDylan]

All I can say is wow. I saw the car in person at Pump Gas Drags on thursday and friday nights. When I first saw it on thursday I thought it pulled up in the wrong staging lanes. I just couldnt believe how quiet it was. You could not really hear the superchargers at all. That is an awesome car. I just found this thread and the car was very well built. Hats off to you guys at W2W. I was just blown away when I saw it run a 9 sec. pass so quietly. This is the ultimate sleeper in my opinion. Ive seen Kevin Thompsons sleeper cars in person but the paint is really what does it for the nova. Well that and the trailer hitch!

[427]

Thanks guys, glad you like our sleeper project.
The gas tank in the trunk is baffled.
Not sure how fast pulling a bass boat, but if you have one we can find out!!

Kurt

[NUBREED]

Really Tight Work,what Size Tire Were You Able To Fit Underneath It? Does It 60 Ft. With The Radials? Either Way You Guys Do Excellent Work-top Notch Fabricators...just Wish You Guys Were Further South...

[Reckless]

Gotta keep the hitch for drag week!

[dslwizard]

That is so sweet. I can't believe that machine work on the bolt patterns and the mounting locations. Just beautiful, really. thanks
mike

[427]

It sixty foots bad right now, 1.50 was the best. The converter for the car broke on Tuesday night before we left, the only one I had here was 1,000rpm tighter which killed the launch. I am leaving the tighter converter in for Power tour because it drives good.
I think the radial tire is amazing for traction. I look forward to putting the looser converter in when we get back from Power tour.

Kurt


Really Tight Work,what Size Tire Were You Able To Fit Underneath It? Does It 60 Ft. With The Radials? Either Way You Guys Do Excellent Work-top Notch Fabricators...just Wish You Guys Were Further South...

[NUBREED]

SOOO WHAT SIZE TIRE IS IT??????1.50 AINT BAD .. YOU LEAVING OFF THE FOOT BRAKE I TAKE IT...SO WHEN YOU GET THE RIGHT CONVERTER AND LEAVE OFF THE TRANY BRAKE WITH THE C-16 AND FULL BOOST NO DOUBT IT WILL RUN AT LEAST A SECOND QUICKER AND EASILY 10-15 MPH FASTER..BUT THE TRICK IS WITH THE PUMP GAS...COULD YOU RUN A METH INJECTION KIT AT P.G.D.---NEVER MIND ABOUT THE TIRE SIZE THEY LOOK LIKE THE 325----HEY STOP SAND BAGGING WOULD YA...:naughty: REALLY THOUGH,THAT THING IS GONNA FLY ,IM SURE RICH HAS A "SPECIAL TUNE" IN THERE FOR YA...

[427]

I was leaving off the transbrake.
I wish it had another second in it, for now I will wish for a 8 second slip, although I may never get it.

Kurt

[NUBREED]

I HAVE ALL THE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU WILL SEE THE 8 SEC ZONE..NO DOUBT....THAT CONVERTER WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE..JUST MAKE IT HOOK...AND A LITTLE SPRAY WONT HURT...:naughty:

[trapin]

What's the horsepower on that car?

[427]

I ran the engine before we put it in the car, it made 1160@7500 with 17psi at the flywheel.
I slowed the blowers down for the pgd, but I only ran it on a chassis dyno. It was in the 680hp range at around 7400rpm.
On that tune it ran [email protected] on 93 octane fuel. We had the tune a little conservative to protect for the low octane fuel, but all signs show we could have been more aggresive.

Kurt

[Reckless]

What's the horsepower on that car?

I think it made close to 1200 on the engine dyno with 100 octane.

[JMarsa]

I think it made close to 1200 on the engine dyno with 100 octane.

:lol: Ha! Obviously not sharing the same computer over there! One minute apart.

--JMarsa

[trapin]

680 Horsepower at the rear wheels. And on 93 octane.

That's just the kind of stuff that gets my electical current flowing. I love it!

[427]

It made the 680 on a "93 safe" tune, but the 100 octane was still in the tank. We did not add the 93 until Comp cams parking lot in tech for the PGD, then we raced on the same tune.


Kurt