"So What Do You Guys Think"?

[Torquedork]

So we built this Mustang Mach I for a guy, a sort of Resto/Mod with a 5 speed conversion from and automatic. He takes the car with the chrome Magnums on it and says he’s going to put 17 Cragars (Hurst Clones) with these straight hard lines in the spokes. I told him Daisy spokes or Torque Thrusts would match the body style better but he went the cheaper route. He asked me to photograph the car with the new wheels. I happened to have a similar shot of a Boss 302 I shot with Daisy spokes on it so I refit the Mach I with them. I felt if he’s staying somewhat vintage, use something that fits and better relates to it’s heritage.

So……. Which looks Better????

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/machb1_zps056ce7fb-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/machb1_zps056ce7fb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/daisy3_zpsab4af724-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/daisy3_zpsab4af724.jpg.html)

[regal454]

The original design Torque Thrusts look WAY better.

[Torquedork]

The original design Torque Thrusts look WAY better.

I agree to a certain extent Torque Thrusts are timeless but so many of them around. Don't see Daisy spokes as often and a number of small Trans Am teams ran them.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/nzjav4_zpse7f75cc9-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/nzjav4_zpse7f75cc9.jpg.html)

Dan Kahn's Boss 302

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/daisy5_zpse7e585a7-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/daisy5_zpse7e585a7.jpg.html)

[cornfedbill]

I love the Torq thrusts and the daisy spokes, but I would have to go with the Hurst replicas on this car. It stands out more from the crowd and has a unique look with them.

Just my 2 cents...

[sixt8nova]

first pic. those wheels really set off the car imho. especially if you're planing on using that color combo. that is a sexy car. and i'm not even a mustang fan. haha

[WallaceMFG]

The first picture looks better to me, that's what I'd pick

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

I like the Daisy spokes, but actually I REALLY like that first pic.

[Ben@SpeedTech]

That car has some pretty hard body lines on it. From that stand point the Cragars match it better. The Cragars give it a harder meaner look, the daisys although look great on vintage race inspired cars, soften the look.

[Munssey]

It's all subjective, right?? I see some pretty sharp lines on the car and some curvy ones from it's previous years still in the shape so it's not a matter of either wheel clashing with the car.

I **personally** like the Cragars but I think it's because they are a bit more unique where I see the Torque Thrust wheels so much.

[Torquedork]

It's all subjective, right?? I see some pretty sharp lines on the car and some curvy ones from it's previous years still in the shape so it's not a matter of either wheel clashing with the car.

I **personally** like the Cragars but I think it's because they are a bit more unique where I see the Torque Thrust wheels so much.

No. 1 That's why I liked the Daisy spokes

No. 2 The Mustang is NOT as straight line as you think.

Here is where I equate the body shapes to the Daisy spokes

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/daisy3b_zps534f564e-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/daisy3b_zps534f564e.jpg.html)

They work well on a straight line body like the '65 GTO where the Hurst wheels originated.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/1E1_zps95663437-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/1E1_zps95663437.jpg.html)

Changes can be so subtle

. When my friend was building a ’73 AMX, he mentioned about putting 17 inch versions of the Vintage Wheel Works Minilite style wheels on the Bullet that he has on the ’70 Donohue called the Crush. I told him it wouldn’t work for the spokes were too straight for a “Humpster” and clash with the body lines. He found a better match with the Team 3 LT-3 Minilite style wheels where the spokes have a rounder and softer shape which is a perfect fit for the ’73 AMX. Below is a computer comparison between the curved 17 inch LT-3 Minilites on the left and the 17 inch Vintage Wheel Works straight spoke Minilites on the right. Although subtle, the choice is obvious.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/1F6_zps5c02fe01-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/1F6_zps5c02fe01.jpg.html)

[Bossed]

The Cragars look better between those two.

[Torquedork]

Maybe a NON Professional photo will help. Photo taken by the owner.

Just don't think it looks that great.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/9_zps292a51e3-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/9_zps292a51e3.jpg.html)

[gofastwclass]

Maybe a NON Professional photo will help. Photo taken by the owner.

Just don't think it looks that great.

You Sir have hit the nail on the head on something I've thought for years and have a difficult time explaining to people.

There are so many subtle things about wheels (colour, texture, spoke shape, overall style, rim size, stagger, offset, etc.) that can make or break a vehicle. I understand why the owner went with the wheels he did - he wanted a different look. The problem I see is the wheels he chose look like an afterthought and don't really fit the body (or retro style) of the vehicle much outside of size and colour.

I'm not saying the chosen wheels look bad, they don't. The wheels are too angular and there are other (more rounded) designs that fit the overall look of the vehicle better.

Just my humble opinion. :)

As a side note: I believe it's easier for people to follow when you have both options in the same image and crop out the non-essentials like you did for the '73 AMX. Once they start to see what you are saying, I think the full body shot would help put them over the edge.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/1F6_zps5c02fe01-1.jpg

[vintageracer]

I like the Hurst wheels!

Torque Thrusts from any generation as so overdone and so YESTERDAY.

Pro-Touring is all about moving forward not backwards!

[Torquedork]

You Sir have hit the nail on the head on something I've thought for years and have a difficult time explaining to people.

There are so many subtle things about wheels (colour, texture, spoke shape, overall style, rim size, stagger, offset, etc.) that can make or break a vehicle. I understand why the owner went with the wheels he did - he wanted a different look. The problem I see is the wheels he chose look like an afterthought and don't really fit the body (or retro style) of the vehicle much outside of size and colour.

I'm not saying the chosen wheels look bad, they don't. The wheels are too angular and there are other (more rounded) designs that fit the overall look of the vehicle better.

Just my humble opinion. :)



Very well said. You get what I'm talking about. A well thought out car should be balanced with no one thing drawing your attention away from the rest of the car. It should be balanced in it's look. Being "Different" with the wrong train of thought isn't always a good thing. There are almost no hard edges on the car that tie the body style to the wheels and although they don't look terrible, there were better choices out there.

I did one more putting MY Halibrand 5 spokes on the Mustang.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/daisy6c_zpsc2fcbf2d-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/daisy6c_zpsc2fcbf2d.jpg.html)

Then I put the Cragars on MY car. UGH

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/07/1C_zpsd89d4402-1.jpg (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/protour71/media/Reviews/1C_zpsd89d4402.jpg.html)

On a side note, the Mustang really isn’t that much of a full on Pro/Touring car but an upgraded Resto/Mod car so the shoes fit so to speak. While Torque Thrust are in abundance, it’s for a reason. They are “Timeless” and look good on anything and it’s why so many other wheel companies clone them. It’s why I originally suggested the 17 inch Daisy Spokes to the guy since you don’t see them as much and fit the era.

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Everybody sees different things, so there's no right or wrong answer. I personally see the straight spokes of the Cragar complimenting the finned Mach 1 rocker trim, as well as the window look fitting the gills next to the headlights.

[bs46488]

I'm amazed at the difference the professional vs. non-professional photos look. Wow.

For my .02 - I don't like either of the rims. But its great to see how photoshop can help change the look of a car.