Flush Mount glass kits...who's in?

[Fesler built]

We have kicked around the idea for the last year on making flush mount glass kits. I need to know what cars you guys think would be a big hit and or what car you would buy one for and what price point do you think we can sell these at.

The last guy making them was trying to get $1999 for a set of front and rear glass and I think that is too high so what do you guys think we can sell them for. We don’t want to break the bank but we need to be able to make a little bit of money on these kits so we can make different kits for other applications. We were thinking in the $799-$899 for front and rear window kit with everything needed to install.

You thoughts?

Any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

I think the trim looks nice on the 67-69 Camaros, and ties it into the drip rail trim. The 2nd gen Camaro I think is a great candidate as not all cars had drip rail trim, and the side glass had a smooth look, almost flush mount as well.

Oh and hey, btw, I have a 2nd gen Camaro laying around here in Gilbert in the early bodywork phases if you need a test car. HAHA.

[WallaceMFG]

I love the flush glass look. You'd make some serious money if you can develop kits for other models besides first gen Camaros. I've searched long and hard and I can find several kits for 67-69 Camaro, but nothing for GM A-bodies or other popular cars. I can think of at least 3 people that would go for a kit for 68-69 A bodies, and I'd go for one as well. Just some info to think on.

Nelson

[pro67coupe]

I really want it for my 67 mustang.n I think in the 1000$ ballpark would be good

[Evilone83]

First and second gen camaro/ firebird would be a great place to start as they are some of the most popular rebuilders. Mustangs is probably the second then chevelle and nova being hot for the drag racers.

As far as price i would suggest that you sell them as cheap as you can with out hurting your self. 800 or 900 dollars is a little high for me but its a hell of a lot better than 2000.

I know i will be looking for something like this in the future for my 75 camaro.

[goody029]

X2 on the 2nd Gen Camaro

[raustinss]

I am for a 70 -72 Chevelle kit...which has the antenna in the windshield already lol

[pro68chevelle]

68-69 Chevelle, need it now!

[Oregon]

69 Nova here!

[SD67]

Sign me up for a first gen Camaro kit. Need it in the next 6 months.

[MrQuick]

2nd gen Camaro's fo show!!

[I_make_oil]

65/66 Mustangs both coupe and fastback.

[Gratefuldiver]

72 gto

[paulk68]

Another vote for 68 Camaro in the 7-800 dollar range

[Simbad68]

67-69 Camaro/Firebird in the $700-$900 range.

[camrat68]

68 Camaro here also.

Jim

[shortrack]

Id love one for the 69 but how do they work? Is it a filler material between the stock glass and the metal windshield cut out?

[MonzaRacer]

After looking into the possibility of buying different types of glass, I found that many pieces come out oversized from production and are ground to spec size. Reason I found this was when the manufacturer had an issue with over clearancing glass for stock application like 88-what ever C-K series. It wouldnt hold the seal, the difference was something like no more than an 1/8 in.
I have looked into building a , well system of simply filling in the gap enough to tighten up older cars so newer filler strips can be utilized. BIGGEST issue is chassis twist. This came from a GM engineer I talked to. The unibody torsion specs from 60s and 70s vs 80s-up with flush mount glass. There is a REAL issue. Even on my 84 Caprice.
This is what I havent tried to get any parts bent up yet. With so many of the older cars having rust out in window areas adjusting the repairs to "tuck" glass shouldnt be hard.
Heck roof chopping had people "sinking" glass into "pockets" that are sealed. Just helped tear down a truck recently the front and rear gass were sunk into cab. Interesting arrangement. But it worked till tree limb bashed up roof, now owner is going to rebuild with lift off steel "convertible" top.
Honestly the implications of actually getting a better price point will be sheer volume of production.
For my 2dr 84 Caprice and my 77 Monza Ill probably have to take different actions to attempt this modification.
But good luck.
Lee

[thumper877]

69 camaro he'll yeah we're do I sign up

[67CamNKC]

67 Camaro here. I am considering flush mount as well.

[Goosesdad]

Please!! I'm a couple months away from fabricating myself for my second gen. $800 sounds great !

[KEV 190164]

I would be interested if they come with the rubber trim like the yearone bandit hate the metal trim on my 79 2nd gen . I live in England but have a friend in florida to ship to. cheers kev

[Build-It-Break-It]

I think $600-700 is fair for the set. Anything over it be one of those "do i really need it" type buys. I personally like to keep the outside of the 67-69 Camaro close to what it looked like original with subtle changes and I like the window trim. But the flush look is ok on some cars. I think 1st and second Gens would be the top seller. That's about 70% of the builds I see on here.

[Fesler built]

I am going to do a new post with Pre-orders so we can get these going. We have been working on this for awhile now and we are ready to start productions. Give me a few weeks to see where we are here and I will start the post. I will need to know how many are interested (I mean have money and ready to buy interested) as I cant go out on a limb here and build a ton of glass to sit on.

Who's in now and ready to buy? 1967-69 Camaro will be first. Send me an email with the following. [email protected]

Name
Number
Address
Year and make of car

Chevelle will be next and then we will work on truck and either Nova or Mustang. Depends on the poll to see what is hot and what people will buy. Thanks guys.

[JohnKellum]

I'd definitely be interested for a 68 Camaro. However, I'd need a final price before I made a commitment. Like "Build-It-Break-It" said, it would definitely be a piece to be interested in but a piece that is not needed and price is 100% a factor in the final decision.

Wha will the price be for front and back? and does it include the rubber?

[capri v8 driver]

Call me stupid, but I have 1 question and it may be slightly of topic. What's the difference between the glass type used for rubber mounted windows and the glass type used for glued windows?

I'm not talking about the different dimensions for the rubber/glued glass because I know you need a slightly bigger glass to make the gapes between the glass and the window frame smaller. But I only want to know the difference in the type of glass that's being used.

[NJSPEEDER]

2nd gen f-bodies are a fast growing market. It seems like more and more of them are showing up for sale and on forums being built around here, along the I95 corridor

-Tim

[WallaceMFG]

I am going to do a new post with Pre-orders so we can get these going. We have been working on this for awhile now and we are ready to start productions. Give me a few weeks to see where we are here and I will start the post. I will need to know how many are interested (I mean have money and ready to buy interested) as I cant go out on a limb here and build a ton of glass to sit on.

Who's in now and ready to buy? 1967-69 Camaro will be first. Send me an email with the following. [email protected]

Name
Number
Address
Year and make of car

Chevelle will be next and then we will work on truck and either Nova or Mustang. Depends on the poll to see what is hot and what people will buy. Thanks guys.

I'm in Mesa if you need a Chevelle to do some testing on! :twothumbs

[circle mc]

1969 sport roof stang please! under a 1000 is a good deal I think.

[Fesler built]

Call me stupid, but I have 1 question and it may be slightly of topic. What's the difference between the glass type used for rubber mounted windows and the glass type used for glued windows?

I'm not talking about the different dimensions for the rubber/glued glass because I know you need a slightly bigger glass to make the gapes between the glass and the window frame smaller. But I only want to know the difference in the type of glass that's being used.

Paul, it would be the same piece of glass and we will offer it with a rubber trim or no trim that will be up to you on the look of your car, I am going to run the glass with no trim because I want it to look clean and simple on the install.

[capri v8 driver]

Chris thank you for the answer.

[67CamNKC]

To make this glass be flush mounted, we would still need to build up (or move) the rail where the glass to connects to car right? So the glass isn't "sunk in" but out closer to the sheet metal edge? The glass itself is larger so there is less of a gap, but not thicker?

I'm interested but still new to the flush mount.

Thanks,

[Yelcamino]

'66 Chevelles of course!

[g-machine]

Hopefully 75-81 f-body makes the cut.......it's just the extra rear window!

[PT Sportwagon]

70-72 GM A body. But I only need the front. LOL

Tim

[Goosesdad]

Second Gen! I'm in, have money, ready to roll right now!!! Assuming that no rubber is needed and the glass goes right up to the body. Would like to understand how it mounts, assuming I would need to fabricate some type of extension to the window lip?

[rossmacd]

67 Fastback.

I'd also love to have one piece windows; delete the vent. There is a guy out there who makes a kit, but the few reviews I have been able to find say that the fitment is terrible and it's a waste of money.

[manOwar]

65/66 Mustangs both coupe and fastback.
Put me down for a 65/66 Fastback kit.

[Sicarius428]

69-70 fastback. I can see spending around 1000 on it.
Kevin

[bmbrzmn101]

I will be flushing both front and rear in mine. 67 Elky

Chris

[Xon]

I will be ready at the first of the year for my 67 camaro glass. Get it Rollin so when I am ready to order there will be no wait! :)

[BlackMachOne]

69 Mustang Fastback. I think only the windshield and rear window would be needed; no side windows

[68zz502fi]

Flush mount front and rear glass sounds good... If you make it totally complete with a good installation kit and excellent instructions. The ones available currently are way too expensive.

"1968 Camaro"

[Kmart78]

68-72 Nova PLEASE!!!!!!!

[Alponcho]

Timely thread. I'd like to go with flush glass for my 70 Formula build and need to figure out QUICKLY how we're going to approach it (just got the shell back from stripping and will begin metal work soon). A pre-engineered kit would be great to save time, I'm shocked there isn't an available solution. I'm in Scottsdale and would buy a sorted out kit immediately.

[WikdssLt4]

I would love to do that on my 87 Monte Carlo SS. But the only way I would think it would look good is if the back 1/4 glass was also done.

[sovain]

2nd gen Camaro's fo show!!
Wow!! 2nd gens definately

[Cop Magnet]

68-70 Charger. OK, I know I am dreaming...

[ADiCarlo]

Email sent about this

[oulandman]

Can you guys provide a solution for flush mounted windshield and rear window for a 66 GTO?

[autonaut]

Do you sell kits for 78-81 2 door mailbus?

Would be a great detail on a build..

[PT Sportwagon]

Would you be offering the kits separate as in. With a wagon I would only need the front. MMM flush mount glass, shave the drip moldings. Ideas keep flowing.

Tim

[maverick3316]

68-72 Nova PLEASE!!!!!!!

I second this. I have a 4 door nova, I think it's different....

[DLinson]

I have to say flush mounting the front and rear glass on my Nova was the largest job on my entire car. If there was a kit for $1000 it would have been worth it.

For the cars with curved glass like my Nova, using the stock glass will require pulling in the C-pillar to be flush with the glass.

We'll be flush mounting the glass on my son's 68 Cougar when we start on it. I doubt there is much of a market for the Cougar though.

[PT Sportwagon]

Dennis, How did you do your Nova???

Tim

[DLinson]

Since the Nova uses the "H" gasket, the glass will fall through the opening. I had to build a new flange around the entire opening, I brought it in about 1 inch so the glass could rest on it. I also raised it up some to bring the glass flush with the body. I then had to fill the gap in between the window and the body, about 1/2" or so. It's been a long time since I've done it. Where the glass wraps around to the side of the car, you have to cut the A and C pillars and push them in so the pillar is flush with the glass.

I have several pictures of the process if you want to PM me with your e-mail address. If you plan on doing it, make sure you get a shrinker/stretcher. I didn't have one at the time and it would have been so much easier. I purchase a shrinker/stretcher and my friend used it to flush mount his 66 mustang windows. It went a lot easier.

Dennis

[HomeBuilt]

We have kicked around the idea for the last year on making flush mount glass kits. I need to know what cars you guys think would be a big hit and or what car you would buy one for and what price point do you think we can sell these at.

The last guy making them was trying to get $1999 for a set of front and rear glass and I think that is too high so what do you guys think we can sell them for. We don’t want to break the bank but we need to be able to make a little bit of money on these kits so we can make different kits for other applications. We were thinking in the $799-$899 for front and rear window kit with everything needed to install.

You thoughts?

Any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

Count me in for a 68-69 Chevelle too. If it's $800 for the front and rear where do I sign up?

[Doug1]

I would be in for a 2nd gen F-body (77)

[GTOtzel]

Can you guys provide a solution for flush mounted windshield and rear window for a 66 GTO?

Yes, Please!

[Fesler built]

We have 25 1st Gen kits on order with you guys and we are ordering 50 kits at a time, WHO NEEDS GLASS, send me an email ASAP [email protected] if you have not already done so. EMAIL NOW TO GET ON THE LIST we will post a ton of pics in the AM.

[Chevelle598bb]

Are 1st gen camaro the only glass running right now? I would be in for a 70-72 chevelle. Any finalized price yet.

[tigerhays]

I am in on 69 Camaro....for 2 cars!

[g-machine]

Any updates for 2nd gen f-bodies?

[formula350]

Any updates for 2nd gen f-bodies?

I second that

[tigerhays]

I just got off the phone with Michelle I beleive was her name,$1499.00 plus $250 shipping...thats a long ways from $799 to $899

[MrQuick]

cheaper than the alternative.

[LXCam]

I just got off the phone with Michelle I beleive was her name,$1499.00 plus $250 shipping...thats a long ways from $799 to $899

I got the same story. As much as it's still a deal compared to the other options, I'd still rather sit this one*out until we see how quality control turns out.

[niicco]

Keep me posted looking for flush mounts for a 1977 trans am

[MTZ28]

Would be interested in a kit for 2nd gen camaro. 75-81

[LS7 Z/28]

Unfortunately the manufacturer that the glass was being produced by is having issues getting the quality where it should be at in order to be up to Fesler standards and to correctly fit the window openings, so everyone who was on the list to get first gen Camaro flush mount glass will be receiving a credit on their account and Fesler will be sending an email out about it tonight. Fesler is currently working on getting things set up with another manufacturer so the glass will eventually be made, but most likely it won't be available by April. I commend Fesler on doing the right thing and refunding the people who have prepaid in case you have no choice but to go another route.

It's frustrating, but I totally get it. I've always been happy with the quality of the products I've bought from them in the past. I just thought you guys might find this information helpful if you see this before you get the email tonight.

[Rod]

the manufacturer that the glass was being produced by is having issues

wasn't that the story we were told by another flush glass guy/company that ended up taking peoples money any ways and some still haven't got money back........years later

[Dunnum1]

65-66 mustang fastback between 600 and 800 I'd be in

[Schroeder]

I'm in! Second gen fbody!

[alphaenvirmgt]

Everyone needs to VOTE!
Conrad

[tbal]

Did you guys ever make this kit for 2nd gen?

[Alwhite00]

That 2nd gen Camaro picture on the first page looks great.

[Fesler built]

Just to update you guys 1st gen flush glass will be shipping in a few weeks, we finally have it all finished up and fitting really good. This is North America Glass not overseas crap. We have been working with manufacture for over a year on this to get it perfect.

Working on 2nd Gen now and 67 Mustang Fastback, Chevelle is next. I am back on the glass full time now that we know what we are doing. Have invested lots of money and time in this for you guys and am excited to get it out to everyone. If you are not on the list DO NOT PM me call the shop or send me an email [email protected] 480-748-2000. It will go fast as we get several calls a day on it now. First come first serve from the list on file.

thanks guys

[Fesler built]

wasn't that the story we were told by another flush glass guy/company that ended up taking peoples money any ways and some still haven't got money back........years later

Yeah I changed manufactures because they could not figure it out. I partnered up with a company that can handle all of this we just had to work all the bugs out again. BY THE WAY WE GAVE ALL MONEY BACK TILL WE FIGURED IT OUT. So we did not take a dim from anyone. We will be taking orders this week and shipping in a few weeks. Finally got it all worked out after lots of glass and lots of money. LOL.
Chris Fesler

[Fesler built]

65-66 mustang fastback between 600 and 800 I'd be in

Working on a 67 right now and that is the same front glass, rear will be different but we will do that one as well.

[Fesler built]

Did you guys ever make this kit for 2nd gen?

2nd gen glass is being worked on now so very soon. What year do you have? I think front is 1970-78 but not sure on the rear.

[Fesler built]

Would be interested in a kit for 2nd gen camaro. 75-81

Working on that car now, do you know the years for the glass on 2nd Gen Camaro?

[Fesler built]

Unfortunately the manufacturer that the glass was being produced by is having issues getting the quality where it should be at in order to be up to Fesler standards and to correctly fit the window openings, so everyone who was on the list to get first gen Camaro flush mount glass will be receiving a credit on their account and Fesler will be sending an email out about it tonight. Fesler is currently working on getting things set up with another manufacturer so the glass will eventually be made, but most likely it won't be available by April. I commend Fesler on doing the right thing and refunding the people who have prepaid in case you have no choice but to go another route.

It's frustrating, but I totally get it. I've always been happy with the quality of the products I've bought from them in the past. I just thought you guys might find this information helpful if you see this before you get the email tonight.

As frustrating this has been for all of us we have kept going and teamed up with another manufacture that gets it. After a year of new design and new molds we are ready to start selling glass. If you were on the list and are still interested please give us a call 480 748 2000. We felt it only right to return all money till we figured it out. We do not want to be that company that could not deliver and took money. I hope you guys all understand and when you see the new products you will see it was worth the wait.

[Fesler built]

I got the same story. As much as it's still a deal compared to the other options, I'd still rather sit this one*out until we see how quality control turns out.

We would love to be able to sell the kits at $899, once we get design and mold cost caught up we will be able to drop the price a little but this is a very expensive process to do as you can imagine.

[Fesler built]

I am in on 69 Camaro....for 2 cars!

If you are still looking for glass and not on the list please call the shop to place your order. We want to make sure we take care of everyone ASAP. thanks 480-748-2000

[Fesler built]

SHIPPING NEXT WEEK...

WE ARE TAKING ORDERS NOW, PLEASE CALL THE SHOP TO PLACE YOUR ODER. 480-748-2000 FRONT GLASS, REAR GLASS and ALL SIDE GLASS AVAILABLE.

[raustinss]

Does this mean that you will now expand this product line for 68-72 A bodies and 2ND gen F bodies?

[Fesler built]

https://feslerbuiltblog.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/first-gen-camaro-flush-mount-glass-available-now/

[Fesler built]

Does this mean that you will now expand this product line for 68-72 A bodies and 2ND gen F bodies?

Yes working on 2nd Gen now Chevelle will be next...

[raustinss]

Price? Roughly....and is it stock size glass?...I know these questions were asked before but just unsure if and or what has changed since the original thread was posted

[dhutton]

Price? Roughly....and is it stock size glass?...I know these questions were asked before but just unsure if and or what has changed since the original thread was posted

$1499 plus $200 shipping per their website. Drops right in for a half hour install it says.

Don

[raustinss]

$1499 plus $200 shipping per their website. Drops right in for a half hour install it says.

Don

Yes sorry saw that after I revisited the site...pardon my laziness for not editing it...Probably should have

[g-machine]

2nd gen glass is being worked on now so very soon. What year do you have? I think front is 1970-78 but not sure on the rear.

Will the rear glass be offered for 70-74 and 75-81 at the same time? I'd imagine the 75-81 will come second, but I just want to be sure it is going to be offered.

Thank you!

[Fesler built]

Will the rear glass be offered for 70-74 and 75-81 at the same time? I'd imagine the 75-81 will come second, but I just want to be sure it is going to be offered.

Thank you!

Yes we will do both, front is the same correct?

[g-machine]

Will the rear glass be offered for 70-74 and 75-81 at the same time? I'd imagine the 75-81 will come second, but I just want to be sure it is going to be offered.

Thank you!

Yes we will do both, front is the same correct?

Yes, the windshield is 70-81. Put me down for a set with 75-81 rear glass. PM or email me with details concerning deposit or payment:

[email protected]

Thanks!

[Fesler built]

If you want to look and order glass you can go to the Fesler store here. Have any questions please ask. Thanks

http://www.shopfesler.com/fesler-flush-mount-glass-kit-1967-69-chevrolet-camaro/

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

If you guys need either a 70-74, or a 75-81 F-body, I have both, a 71 Firebird, and 77 Trans Am available locally! :)

[Bigwex]

Will be interested in a set for 2nd gen Abody as well. If you need a test car let me know!

[Fesler built]

If you guys need either a 70-74, or a 75-81 F-body, I have both, a 71 Firebird, and 77 Trans Am available locally! :)

do you have some pics of the cars? I don't want to do any damage to a painted car...

[Fesler built]

Will be interested in a set for 2nd gen Abody as well. If you need a test car let me know!

We do need a test car for 1970-74 and 75-81. I think we have a 74 but will not know for a week.

[Fesler built]

Just want to clarify some questions for all of you. We have been getting lots of questions on the price of our glass. Please understand that it is very expensive to tool up glass and manufacture. It is also very expensive and time consuming to build molds and one off samples for the glass company to copy.

There is no one in the industry making a product like this and the last guy that tried failed and his glass was $2800 for a set plus shipping. We worked very hard to get way under that price and did so by $1300.

Here is the info about the glass right from our store so please read all the way down before you order so you understand what the charges are for.

FESLER FLUSH MOUNT GLASS KIT

1967-69 Chevrolet Camaro

Classic fit, flush mount glass for first generation hard top Camaros. Designed and manufactured in North America using the original Float Glass Process invented in 1957 by Pilkington Group, a multinational glass manufacturer.

What is flush mount glass? Basically, a larger piece of glass, designed to fit within the OE opening leaving only a 1/8” gap. The new glass eliminates the need for trim or weather stripping and instead uses a FRIT band, primer and super adhesive urethane to fasten into place. The specific size and shape of the new glass paired with the install method allows for an OE fit with no body modifications.

Besides its exclusivity in the marketplace, Fesler Flush Mount Glass is distinctive because of its meticulous manufacturing process and materials that date back to the 1930s when Libbey-Owens-Ford (LOF) manufactured most domestic automotive glass. Our glass is manufactured using the same process and the same molds (side glass) as OE manufactures did back in the day, guaranteeing our glass will fit just as good, if not better than it did from the factory.

Each set of flush mount glass has been manufactured to mimic OE standards including the faint green hue rooted in every piece. Not known to most but the green hue is what makes our glass officially recognized by the Skin Cancer Foundation for blocking 99.9% of harmful UVA rays. Just as with newer cars, each windshield is laminated safety glass while the rear pieces are tempered.

All orders ship LTL Freight within the continental USA only. If you live outside the USA, we suggest you contract a freight forwarder to handle the shipping for you. Due to the size and weight of each package, it is highly recommended that you ship to a commercial address. Shipping charges to commercial addresses is $199.00/set while shipping charges to a residential area are $350.00. In order to keep shipping costs low, we can recommend one of over one hundred service centers that will take delivery of your product and hold it for pick up. We can also arrange for the shipping carrier to hold your shipment at their terminal for pickup. Both options qualify for commercial shipping rates. If this option applies to you, please select commercial shipping at checkout and comment that you need commercial shipping options. Will call you to arrange a ship to address that qualifies for commercial shipping rates.

Convertible model windshield coming soon
Professional installation is highly, highly recommended. Each set includes primer and prepping instructions.
Also fits 1967-69 Pontiac Firebirds

[badazz81z28]

We do need a test car for 1970-74 and 75-81. I think we have a 74 but will not know for a week.


Test car get free glass?

[Bigwex]

We do need a test car for 1970-74 and 75-81. I think we have a 74 but will not know for a week.

Let me know. I am slowly working on stripping the paint down, so you won't need to wreck any nice paint!

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

do you have some pics of the cars? I don't want to do any damage to a painted car...

Totally missed this. I don't have any I can post right now, I might be able to later when I get home. The 77 T/A is a solid, possibly original paint car awaiting restoration. Sitting in Maricopa. The 71 Camaro is another future project, sitting in my backyard. Solid rust free car, haven't touched the body yet. So to answer your concerns directly, no, they're not painted, and good, virgin original examples without any body or structural damage, versus my 71 Firebird I'm working now where I've installed a new 1/4 panel. And 74 should be the same as 70-73, I know the glass and trim is the same, doubt there were any 1 year subtle differences.

[F-Body International]

I just put a vote in for 2nd F-Body on this thread. Mine is a '79 Trans Am. No trim looks clean...

[813Demon340]

If you ever do Mopars, start with 70-74 Cudas please!

[rreichert82]

I am in for a second gen firebird!!!

[Cole]

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[Cole]

Double post

[813Demon340]

Love the flush glass on that Camaro.

[dirty rick]

53 Studebaker Commander rustbucket needs a flush mount kit....

[rreichert82]

Any idea on when the kit for a 79 Trans Am would be available? I am will need to buy new glass this year before I get mine on the road and don't want to waste money on the original style if I can upgrade to an awesome flush mount.

[69496]

I have a 70 camaro I would submit and drive over for sure if you need a "reasonably" clean car to do test fitting. It has some good bits and pieces on it with a basic flat paint job I'm not concerned about getting damaged from the fitting. Just throwing it out there!!!

[TrevorG_FeslerBuilt]

For those of you interested, the link to buy the glass on our site is here:

http://www.shopfesler.com/flush-mount-trimless-glass/

[BlackMachOne]

For those of you interested, the link to buy the glass on our site is here:

http://www.shopfesler.com/flush-mount-trimless-glass/

Do you have any plans to make a kit for the 1969 Mustang Fastback?

[chuckd396]

No flush glass for a 67 Chevelle?

[Dunnum1]

65-66 mustang fastback

[rlo347]

what happened to it being around 800-900 dollar range?

[Cronies74]

I'm in for flush front and rear glass for '71 Chevelle. Actually surprised this isn't a common item offered in the industry. Body is currently in paint prep so it will be a few moths til we are ready for glass. But I'm definitely going with the flush glass one way or another.

[Cronies74]

For those looking for Flush mount front/rear glass for their '70-'72 Chevelle...
Fesler Built in Arizona is ready to start offering them but they need a doner/loaner Chevelle to get the molds made up. They can have them ready in 3 months after they get them set up.
So if anyone in AZ wants to get involved shoot Chris Fesler an email - [email protected]. I'm sure the doner would get a great set of glass for a good deal. But you would need to discuss terms with Chris. Who is going to be the savior? If your in ARIZONA let's get this rollin. Thx

[davisgsxr06]

In process of painting my 67 camaro...Does any modifying to make the flush mount glass fit? Does the rivet on the body have to be grinded off or will it fit over the factory rivets that holds the trim in place. Just curious about it & don't want to mess a 10k paint job up... Thanks in advance...

[ah64pilot]

Will the 70-72 Chevelle glass work on same year a-body cars or no?

[dhutton]

In process of painting my 67 camaro...Does any modifying to make the flush mount glass fit? Does the rivet on the body have to be grinded off or will it fit over the factory rivets that holds the trim in place. Just curious about it & don't want to mess a 10k paint job up... Thanks in advance...
If you want a consistent and narrow gap around the glass bodywork will be needed. Fit the glass before paint.

Don

[davisgsxr06]

If you want a consistent and narrow gap around the glass bodywork will be needed. Fit the glass before paint.

Don
good to know... Thanks

[riles]

Seriously thought of going with this glass (front/back), 65FB, but over 2k with shipping is a hard pill, especially since you can get factory fit for less than 800. The price is a far cry from the original post of $799-$899 for the front/rear kit.

[g-machine]

Yes, the windshield is 70-81. Put me down for a set with 75-81 rear glass. PM or email me with details concerning deposit or payment:

[email protected]

Thanks!

It's crazy that I posted this reply one year to the day! Something drew me to this topic. I need to get my glass ordered!

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

Will the 70-72 Chevelle glass work on same year a-body cars or no?

I know for a fact that the rear window is way different between the 70-72 Chevelle and Cutlass. Not sure about the windshield, but it's not worth doing one window.

[raustinss]

I know for a fact that the rear window is way different between the 70-72 Chevelle and Cutlass. Not sure about the windshield, but it's not worth doing one window.




Call a local glass shop the should be able to answer questions such as this

[sheck44]

Finally test fitted mine ... seriously awesome, worth every penny and took very little work to get a perfect gap all the way around
Steve

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[stinger67]

Just got my 67 vert installed & finished up. It took ALOT of fab work & we worked the trim pieces into the vert header. Glad there is no rear window!

[68EFIvert]

I left you a message today regarding my Volvo project on here. I am looking forward to hearing back from you.

[ford396]

Is there any plans for a 71 Nova?

[chuckd71]

Was interested when I read the early posts but it seems the price has become basically what they said was too much. Does look good though.

[niicco]

What's the time line for 75-81 2nd fbody windows ?

[All4rocks]

I ordered the kit for my 67 fastback. Fit was horrible. Not only was the sizing wrong ( to big in some spots way to small in others) but glass was warped, corners dropped off 3/16ths.
There is no way to make this glass fit correctly. Been back and forth with fesler about the glass but they never call back when they say they would. I have to call them. Currently in negotiations with Fesler. They will take it back but do not want to pay for shipping. We will see!

[raustinss]

Hmmmm sounds odd they are usually known for quality

[All4rocks]

Maybe that have other items that are quality ones but this mustang fastback flush mount glass is far from it. It is garbage and their customer service was not good either. They told me that it was my car that was twisted. Nice try!

[MCB Matt]

I think the major problem with this glass (We were going to make it but decided against it) is that a lot of guys have already painted their cars. You have to think, if you are not going to shape the whole window opening to fit the glass, it will look horrible.

Think about how ugly the upper corners are on a first gen Camaro windshield. You would NOT want that showing!

Production variations are also a factor. It looks great when the body work is done AROUND the glass, but not the other way.

The glass is imported just as all other classic car glass. The cost to us suppliers is no different than stock glass. They built the tooling, had the glass made, test fit and then order in bulk. The price WILL come down to move inventory.

[All4rocks]

Fesler has picked up the glass more than 6 weeks ago and still has not refunded my money. Every time i call they always have an excuse why they have not refunded my money. I keep calling them and now i get no answer from anyone there. I've tried 6 times in the last 2 weeks. These guys suck and DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!

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FESLER! feel free to chime in here on your poor customer service.

[sheck44]

Well it's time for me to chime in here as well then ... I can tell you that my front and rear glass was wavy, and I mean you could look down the edge of the glass and it was bad. Thank god we accidentally broke the front glass and had to order a new one and this one was much better. That said we had NO choice but to use the rubber outside trim to hide the imperfections. I told them about it but of course no reply. I never like to throw anyone under the bus but when I see comments like above then it's time for me to jump in.

Cheers
Steve

[Dex]

67 camaro,im in.

[slimjim]

67 camaro,im in.

dude...the comments

[bertram1999]

First and second gen camaro/ firebird would be a great place to start as they are some of the most popular rebuilders. Mustangs is probably the second then chevelle and nova being hot for the drag racers.

As far as price i would suggest that you sell them as cheap as you can with out hurting your self. 800 or 900 dollars is a little high for me but its a hell of a lot better than 2000. auto clicker (https://mouseclicker.net)

I know i will be looking for something like this in the future for my 75 camaro.

I think that is too high so what do you guys think we can sell them for. We don’t want to break the bank but we need to be able to make a little bit of money on these kits so we can make different kits for other applications.

[novakane82]

My .02 cents... I was all for this. But with the amount of fab you need to fit the cars body to the glass. Unless you building a show car. Throw on the window trim and call er a day. I’m gonna run my car a strip here and there too and that worries me as well. But I still think it looks soooo clean.

[raustinss]

You can flush mount stock glass and save yourself a metric sh!+ton of money , plus at least you know stock glass fits the way it should

[Buss396]

Would love them for my 72' Malibu just hard forking out $1900.00 for them though. Then making sure your insurance will cover replacement for California road drivers

[Schroeder]

has anyone here purchased or know someone who purchased fesler flush mount glass for a 2nd gen fbody? There are two pictures on their website of some of the high-profile builds that used the glass, but I have yet to see anyone receive and use the glass in a 2nd gen fbody build.

Over the last four years I have been in discussions with them about placing an order. The glass was always "just a week or two out. Place your order now because we're only getting handfuls in at a time." I'd check back in two weeks. The status would be the same. I went through this multiple times, and I decided the glass wasn't there.

Is there any of the flush mount stuff out there in the hands of DIY people like those of us here and on lat-g?

[Schroeder]

No one has the 75-81 2nd gen fbody glass? I've seen two high profile builds- Jesse's 79 TA and a maroon 77 features on fesler's site- and that's it. No little guys using it.

Anyone out there?

[raustinss]

crickets makes me want to say theres your answer , hopefully someone with first hand knowledge can chime in here soon

[LSM3]

Friend bought a set. Wasn't even close. Windshield sagged, rear glass was a little better. Fesler told him to mod the car around the glass....As stated, if you don't plan on doing major work around the glass. I wouldn't purchase their products. 0 refunds...

[Schroeder]

Friend bought a set. Wasn't even close. Windshield sagged, rear glass was a little better. Fesler told him to mod the car around the glass....As stated, if you don't plan on doing major work around the glass. I wouldn't purchase their products. 0 refunds...


Was his application a 75-81 firebird/camaro? Do you happen to have pics of the finished install?

While I don't want to, I could cut and add metal where needed as I'm replacing the quarters (one welded on already) and roof skin.

[Alponcho]

My understanding is that they have an exclusive deal with Pilkington to make the glass for flush mount. I don't think there's better glass for our cars. I've seen a few Fesler cars and trucks with flush mount close up, and they look great. My body guy had already had done a lot on work on my 70 bird to get the factory glass and moldings to fit perfectly, so although I wanted flush mount when it came out, I loath going backwards on projects, so I passed. Chances are you'll have to do some work to make the factory-sized glass fit perfectly...so might not be that much more work to make the flush mount fit.

[Schroeder]

My understanding is that they have an exclusive deal with Pilkington to make the glass for flush mount. I don't think there's better glass for our cars. I've seen a few Fesler cars and trucks with flush mount close up, and they look great. My body guy had already had done a lot on work on my 70 bird to get the factory glass and moldings to fit perfectly, so although I wanted flush mount when it came out, I loath going backwards on projects, so I passed. Chances are you'll have to do some work to make the factory-sized glass fit perfectly...so might not be that much more work to make the flush mount fit.

I certainly believe you are 100% correct on the fitment and work process. That doesn't scare me. What scares me is massive quality problems with it such as horrible sag or wavyness and fessler's business practices. I don't want to fork over three grand and wait forever or for three months. There are a couple horror stories out there and their years old. I haven't really heard anything good or bad about them since.

[Alponcho]

I'm using them now for some interior work, and so far the experience has positive. Of course, I can't speak to experiences others have had with them.

[Schroeder]

Thanks for the testimony.

I have asked Fesler for pictures of all the customers cars using this glass, but I haven't received anything yet beyond what's on their site. They send me pics, but they're the same ones on the site. This has happened multiple times over the course of the last couple years trying to find people who are buying this, installing it, and having positive experiences.

The fact that the company can't produce many examples of successful installs (concerning to me), the court cases they've been involved in for the glass albeit for other car models I believe (documented on this site), how long the glass has actually taken to come to market, and second most concerning- NO DIY-type build threads utilizing the 75-81 F-body glass lead me to believe it is still not out there in mass.

There have been 2 75-81 fbody builds that were fairly high profile with the builds being featured in magazines, youtube shoots, and hoonigan youtube shoots. Of course fesler would make sure that the high profile builders get what they paid for since those builds would be all over FB, instagram, and twitter. I'm not seeing any DIY examples though.

I want them to be successful. I want to buy, and have been trying to for years. Something has always told me not to though. Given all these facts I've listed here I think I'll probably just use stock glass and a wide (26mm) exterior window seal to give it somewhat of a flush appearance. I have seen a few of these builds and it looks good.

[68EFIvert]

I have some of their glass on my Volvo build. The fit was good out of the box but we did do a bit of work to the body to make it as good as we could. It really didn’t take much work.

There isn’t any waves or sags in the glass but I don’t know about the molds for other cars and if they are the same quality. I am please with how it fits on my Volvo 1800 though. Here are a couple pictures but there are more on my build thread.
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[Perry M]

The fit of the glass in your Volvo looks awesome. It does appear as though you have a rubber seal between the glass and body. Is that correct? If so could you share with me what that molding is? Would it be FlexiTrim with a product number FTUS05-75?

[68EFIvert]

I am sorry I have no idea what product my glass guy used for the seal. It really is there for cosmetic purposes more than anything else. I will reach out to him and ask what he uses.

[68EFIvert]

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This is what he sent me. He offered to send a small piece if you want to check it out. PM me if you want to.

[Perry M]

Thank you so much for your reply. That rubber seal is very similar to what I have and plan on using. A sample at this time is probably not necessary but Will keep it in mind. Thank you