-67 european Ford 20M

[knuckleworks]

hi,my name is Jan and i am from sweden,thanks for letting me in,thought i should share some pics and info about my ongoing project,it's a hardtop that was 1 of 12 imported in -67 in green light metallic paint,it was so badly repaired after a shunt in the front so i decided to build it as i wanted and not a restoration to og

it has a 2,8 from mustang 2 with bigger valves,steel gear for timing and will get fuelinjection,wilder camshaft and a few other goodies,trans is a 4speed auto with lock-up and the front suspension has gotten a powersteering rack and tubular A arms and big anti swaybar,bmw M5 E34 shocks and springs and scorpio cosworth brakes,the rear has been modified with polybushings and discbrakes and koni shocks

bodywork is subtle to the outside,painted bumpers (no cheap chrome shops here :( ) and door handle from mazda mx5 mk1,the idea was to build a good fun car with great handling,a little like an european touch to the worn out name pro touring :),rims and stance are not the final ones,it will be lower and rims bigger/deeper :) if you have any questions please ask and i'll try to answer :)

cheers Jan

[Twentyover]

Looks like a 2.6l Cologne? Looks like you're adding a tension or compression strut to the suspension? And is the FI based on a kugelfischer ITB's? I want to see more- particularly the front suspension and tyhe injection.

A friend and I are developing SCCA GT3 Fords using a 2.9 in a Capri Mk1 body. My avatar is a Mk II I bought in 1979- still have it, and it will get a 4.0l Cologne.

[cobragt]

Miata door handles???

[knuckleworks]

the doorhandles are miata :)

the throttle bodies are from a,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thriumph motorcycle :D

then engine is as i wrote above now a 2,8 much modified and tuned,just searching for an extra intake manifold to have as a prototype for the injection,for the 2,9 there are awesome intakes in UK cheap to and i have an awesome offenhauser (rare) for the normal 2,6-2,8 engines but i can't use it on this due to the assymetrik ports,everything is made in house,bodywork,paint ,suspension,only thing i'll have to get help with is upholstery and that is the next big investment as that is expensive as h*ll here

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[Twentyover]

My bad for poor reading skillz on your first post.

Using the 2.8 heads from a US application? Even with the six ports (vs. five ports for the European 2.8), we found flow to be disappointing. As a result, Mark (my compadre in this venture) petitioned SCCA to make the 2.9 class legal for GT3. in club racing, and permit use of 2.9 World heads (no longer available) as an alternate to the fragile early 2.9 US heads. We also had Burtons build a pile of 1.82" (46.2mm) intake valves and 1.42 (36.8mm) exhausts (our head porter discouraged us from using the 1.50" Burton exhausts, as he said they were overmatched to the intakes-no significant gain. May be different with Mustang II 2.8 heads)

Anyway, I'm saying this as you may want to re-think using the Mustang heads. Maybe use the 2.9 head, and have the cam re-ground for different valve locations.

I think I have a 2.8 offy intake for the US heads at the other house. If you want, I can take a look next time I'm there (unfortunately looks like not until early September.) If I still have it, I'll send for the cost of shipping- I pretty much abandoned the 2.8 in favor of the 2.9 for racing and the 4.0 for street. Had my head porter modify a 2.6 manifold (different screw locations on all but 1 hole) for use on the 2.9- my compadre, Mark, decided to go with a triple Weber IDF's.

The car is beautiful, just what I believe a 60-70s sedan based performance car should look like. Very subtle

[knuckleworks]

yeah this not overly tuned,making aim for a fun street car,it weighs in at just 1240kg so it goes well with modest motor,if you remember have a look for that intake,i would defo buy one,

i looked at modding the 2,9 but allready bhought cam and stuff for the 2,8,,not much gain in heads but the look of 3 exhaust ports made me vain over the look compared to european heads with 2 haha not sure what the 2,8-2,9 made in hp in us but here the 2,8 gave 153 stock and 2,9 146

[Dave B]

I don't think I've ever seen one before, looks pretty cool. I had a 2.8 in a Capri years ago, it was a good little motor. Nice work!

[knuckleworks]

we have guys here in sweden who has gotten out 470hp out of a 2,9 with turbo,i just found a supercharger for sale and my heart rate got higher and i bid on it,wish me luck haha
also ditching most of suspension stuff and will replace with full adjustable independant rear and front based on bmw stuff,huge brakes as standard and cheap(ish),the change for a sturdy 6speed getrg gerabox is one more step,lets hope i can recover from the surgeries and taunt you guys with pics :)

here's a couple of how they look stockand a racecar built here in sweden but now raced in holland :)

//Janne


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[capri v8 driver]

Very nice taunus.

[knuckleworks]

I think I have a 2.8 offy intake for the US heads at the other house. If you want, I can take a look next time I'm there (unfortunately looks like not until early September.) If I still have it, I'll send for the cost of shipping
long time no speak :) is tyhere a chance you still have that offy intake for the odd mustang heads??

[knuckleworks]

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got some quick help on PS to fit modern magnum500 style rims,shame they are so expensive to buy from sweden

[capri v8 driver]

I goggled for you and found this: http://www.raceways.co.uk/Cragar_510_Magnum_wheel.htm Also not cheap.

Buying them in the states + shipping could be cheaper. However I don't know about the taxes you have to pay in Sweden.

[knuckleworks]

cheers but thoose are only 15" they will not fit over the brakes ,17" is the minimum,will keep dreaming haha

looking for an extra mustang 2 intakemanifold,either offenhauser or stock so i can continue the engine build

[Twentyover]

long time no speak :) is tyhere a chance you still have that offy intake for the odd mustang heads??

Sorry, I looked for it when I was in SoCal a while back. I checked records, found I had sold it. You may want to post to an old mailing list [email protected]. It seems like most Capri drivers are locked in the stone age on mailing lists, not forums. There is a derivative Capri-List forum (they were REALLY imaginiative with names). There may be someone there that still has an offy for a US 2.8. As a last resort, Team Blitz till carries them, but they are $$$$.

I think I do have a stock intake (It ran a Motocraft carb in the US, on an egr adapter; I think the stock Euro carb was a 38 DGAS, and that would be the base pattern on the manifold. I'll check tonight.

Once again, beautiful car

[knuckleworks]

ok,thanx in advance (Y) :)

[Z06killinSBF]

I'm digging this, I've never seen one of these before so it's very cool. Nice avatar by the way too!!

[capri v8 driver]

Getting it cheap would be a dream. That's the downside of Europe. Shipping cost and tax makes everything expensive.

As for the 2.8 offenhauser intake. Its still being made and sold but with almost $500.- not very cheap. You could try ebay but they are rare and even second hand they are expensive.

The stock intake from Twentyover can be used. I used it with a 38 DGAS carb on my mustang 2.8 and it ran very good. Keep in mind a 38 DGAS carb has 380 cfm of flow. There is no need for a expensive offenhauser intake + a 390 cfm holley carb for a car that will see mostly street duty.

But why not use a Cosworth v6 or a Duratec v6 engine?

[knuckleworks]

well i got it and has alot of parts on the shelf :D ,plus the cosworth engine looks lika poop hahah

[capri v8 driver]

plus the cosworth engine looks lika poop hahah

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Does its really looks like poop?

That poop engine in stock form will outperform most 2.8s even the modified ones and uses less fuel doing it. I have done a lot of cossie 4 cil and v6 conversions and its no contest between the old 2.8 and the later 2.9 12v and 24v engines.

Having this said even for the cossie engine parts are getting rare and very expensive. Now you see people using a v6 duratec engine or go to a v8 ford or chevy. Strong and cheap and plentiful of parts. I can't tell you what engine to use. That's is of course you own choice.

[Z06killinSBF]

The 2.5/3.0L Duratecs are hard running engines, throw in the SVT cams and intake.

[knuckleworks]

yeah surely they will out perform this engine :) and that polished one is alot work put in to get there haha

this might sound insane thinking it's pretty close to be done but i will cut the whole bottom out of this and fit a complete floor and chassies from a bmw
it will have the stock 240hp 3liter engine and full coilover chassies and bigbrakes
the reason is i traded me a shell with a real carbonfiberroof (yes real) that i want to fit on to my nurburgring tool (in pic below) and this will remain the old looks but enhance the performance to a new much higher level the bmw chassies are good for 8,30 laptinmes around the nurburgring with minor upgrades,this will make my dream to take the 20M to the ring and suprise some people with a sub 10min run with a "vintage car"
the 2,8 here in the 20M i will put in my T-27 roadster :D
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[capri v8 driver]

yeah surely they will out perform this engine and that polished one is alot work put in to get there haha

Except for some wiring and the exhaust, its a very simple to swap a BOA or a BOB cossie v6 if you already have a Cologne v6 in your car. Polishing the intake is more work than doing the engine swap.


this might sound insane thinking it's pretty close to be done but i will cut the whole bottom out of this and fit a complete floor and chassies from a bmw

For some people it may sound insane. Using a modern floor/suspension underneath a classic car isn't uncommon. Me and a friend have done a Nissan skyline r33 floor/bulkhead swap with a old (European) ford Granada mk1 as this Granada needed a new floor anyway and I have seen some people use BMW's, Jaguar or Mercedes for there floor and suspension in there classic cars.

It does make sense as these cars are very common on junkyards over here and can be bought for little money.

[capri v8 driver]

Maybe you like these wheels. This is my own p7.

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They BBS look a like wheels are from a older Mercedes, made by Enkey and Rail. 8 and 9 inch x 16 et 11. These wheels are easier to find for small money.

[capri v8 driver]

Do you have some good pictures of the E34 shocks and the steering rack and the chances you made to fit them???

[knuckleworks]

sent you an respond in PM, good looking car :)

[capri v8 driver]

Thank you for the response.

My P7 still needs a lote of work. The problem is that the previous owner had 2 left hands and no idea what he was doing and ruined the car. A simple example, the fog light did not work anymore so he made 7 feed wires to the fog light only to find out, well I did, the bulb was missing. He gave up. He tried to sell it but failed and stored the car for 7 years before I bought it. It took me 5 weeks to sort everting out and get her running again.

[knuckleworks]

Thank you for the response.

My P7 still needs a lote of work. The problem is that the previous owner had 2 left hands and no idea what he was doing and ruined the car. A simple example, the fog light did not work anymore so he made 7 feed wires to the fog light only to find out, well I did, the bulb was missing. He gave up. He tried to sell it but failed and stored the car for 7 years before I bought it. It took me 5 weeks to sort everting out and get her running again.
hahaha that's hillarious haha, good luck with further improvements, i have a stock bonnet if you want to get rid of that weird scoop :)