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69firebird19
05-12-2014, 10:55 PM
Ima get some upper control arms from global west should i use the tall upper ball joints i have or just install them with the ball joints come with for 69 f body...also has any body seen them cheaper else where than summit is $550 shipped with delrin bushings

Rod
05-13-2014, 04:31 AM
Have you looked at Ridetech arms? you can get our upper arm with Delrin bushings, forged cross shaft, new caster slugs, powder coated, .219 wall DOM tubing, proforge ball joints, for $450 right from us or Summit and Jegs

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/GEDC0713_zpsd4e1c1f8-1.jpg (http://s752.photobucket.com/user/crazyshopmonkey/media/2013%20ridetech-hotchkis%20upgrades/GEDC0713_zpsd4e1c1f8.jpg.html)

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upper shaft close up

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upper shaft with caster slugs in place

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/GEDC0718_zps1e475833-1.jpg (http://s752.photobucket.com/user/crazyshopmonkey/media/2013%20ridetech-hotchkis%20upgrades/GEDC0718_zps1e475833.jpg.html)

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/05/GEDC0724_zps40e3b23d-1.jpg (http://s752.photobucket.com/user/crazyshopmonkey/media/2013%20ridetech-hotchkis%20upgrades/GEDC0724_zps40e3b23d.jpg.html)

kirt70camaro
05-16-2014, 12:46 PM
How much for upper and lower?

BuddyP
05-19-2014, 11:30 AM
Rod (or anybody else from Ridetech), as far as the RideTech upper arms, how will do these work with stock 1st gen F-body stock spindles and stock LCA? Or is this something that should be bought as a whole front end kit since I'm sure it's engineered to coincide with Ridetech's spindles and lower arms. Basically should I bother piecing my front end together little by little or just save up and do the whole kit at once?

marolf101x
05-20-2014, 07:35 AM
I would save up and get the entire kit. We move the ball joint location and angle on the upper and lower, so I cannot say for sure if you'll run into issues when using the OE lower arm and spindle.
The spindle is where you get the biggest gain, as it increases camber gain under compression. However, to use the tall spindle you need arms with altered ball joint angles so you don't reach ball joint bind. In addition the upper and lower increase caster as we move the ball joint locations while keeping the wheel centered.

Rod
05-20-2014, 08:19 AM
:lol:That was the engineering answer...as long as the car is lowered, heres the hot rodders answer, on my car with the Guldstrand mod....I used the Globalwest, DSE, Hotchkis, cheap-o's and ridetech arms in many different configurations, with the castor slug on the ridetech arm when set in the middle is about the same as the gobalwest arm and it worked with the stock lower arm (tested it).....or a DSE arm (tested it) and a cheap-o eBay arm, (tested it), so you with just the uppers you will see SOME benefit....its ridetechs lower arms, that is were the biggest bang (Bazooka style) for the buck is and its so much better than stock (and the others I tested) it must use the Tall spindle the lower ball angle combined with the upper angle on a stock spindle wouldn't work to long (mileage wise) the spindle is to short and binds the ball joints and will create stress cracks in the ball joints casings allowing failure, I saw damage to MOOG ball joints in a very short period (under 1000 miles = one drive to So cal a race and the drive home in one weekend) but hell that could have been those made where-ever ball joints....hope that helps

brownz
05-20-2014, 05:27 PM
I would like to switch to ride tech from GW on my 79 camaro to better match up with the ride tech coil overs