Project "Double Trouble"..Wild and Mild..or Hard and Soft [Archive]

Cryptonomad

05-10-2014, 04:31 PM

First post, but lurking and learning here awhile. Thanks for everyones contributions.

These projects are running semi-tandem as father and son projects, and we have been out of the game for 15+ years...So here goes

68 Camaro coupe non-numbers matching. Bought the tub and title:

Full sheetmetal replacement
2013 ZL1 LSA/TR6060
DSE Mini-tubbed/Frame Connectors
Fab9 3.55
Chassis Works G-link rear suspension
Chassis Works G-Street coil over front suspension
Brakes: undecided...leaning c6z06
Interior: attempting a 2013 ZL1 complete interior retrofit, to include full info-tainment and convienience suite.

68 Camaro RS Convertible numbers matching...original everything..from sales documents to POP.

Resto-mod
No-chop LS conversion: engine undetermined
bolt on suspension and brake upgrades
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I will fill in the details of the last 6 months in the rest of the thread. Special thanks to Brian at Screamin Performance for answering a lot of questions (and his many pictorial contributions to the community), during the coupe body re-construction...and putting up with my dad...LOL

Cryptonomad

05-10-2014, 04:48 PM

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05-10-2014, 05:32 PM

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Cryptonomad

05-10-2014, 05:52 PM

Seats are pretty wide, and console will retain the original, but modified, remote shifter from the zl1 6060. Hopefully, with the tunnel graft and floorpan mods.

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bonecrrusher

05-12-2014, 03:59 AM

Man with no head = scary...

Peter Mc Mahon

05-12-2014, 04:44 AM

wow.....

Cryptonomad

05-13-2014, 07:31 PM

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05-13-2014, 07:38 PM

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Cryptonomad

06-16-2014, 07:11 PM

BRP motor mounts
Hooker t56 mount (modified)
Holley 302-1 pan
Still need to notch frame for ac comp

Cryptonomad

06-16-2014, 07:33 PM

Waiting for mdi interface to start working with the bcm and modules for the global a architecture for the interior. Looking into the copo bcm. Have not found the pn for it yet. It appaers to support the instrument cluster and a few other body functions like the windows, but probably cant add rpo's to that just like you can't remove from production bcms. :banghead::banghead:

R32Jordie

06-17-2014, 09:15 AM

That looks really good. How do you plan on having the dash interface with the door panels. If my memory serves me, the dash flows into the door cards.

scott_fx

06-17-2014, 01:27 PM

This is awesome! i can't wait to see updates on this!!

Cryptonomad

06-18-2014, 05:24 AM

That looks really good. How do you plan on having the dash interface with the door panels. If my memory serves me, the dash flows into the door cards.

Thanks for the comments. Considering aftermarket or building custom. The rockers are being sectioned to accommodate the seats and console. Only have a couple inches for door panel to seat clearance.

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bonecrrusher

06-18-2014, 10:43 AM

Look up Kwhizz on here - he got his 04-06 GTO dash cluster to work in his Ford hotrod swap.

Cryptonomad

06-25-2014, 06:40 PM

Got to a baseline in body/engine wiring that i could juice it up and turn the key and this is what i got.

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http://youtu.be/Xr1cOzU-vjQ

now the fun begins to start working out the DTC's (by wiring, programming, and or bus interface filtering)

Motown 454

06-26-2014, 07:35 AM

Awesome project. That had to feel great seeing the gauges come to life knowing it was working right. Nice work. I'm looking forward to seeing more on these two cars.

scott_fx

06-26-2014, 07:56 AM

have i told you how awesome I think this project is!

Twentyover

06-28-2014, 05:49 PM

Seats are pretty wide, and console will retain the original, but modified, remote shifter from the zl1 6060. Hopefully, with the tunnel graft and floorpan mods.

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This guy in the witness protection program?

Cryptonomad

07-09-2014, 07:41 PM

Thanks Wayne and Scott!

Dry fit on the 5 gen tunnel and mockup fitting for the driver

+1 on the factory remote shifter body mount
+1 on the emergency brake handle mounting
+1 on the factory console mounting

Motown 454

07-09-2014, 07:58 PM

This is going to be so SWEET ! Great Fab work.

Cryptonomad

07-11-2014, 06:17 AM

This is going to be so SWEET ! Great Fab work.

Thanks Wayne. Hows your 69 coming? Did i miss it being finished?

Krazed

07-11-2014, 06:30 AM

Cryptonomad

07-11-2014, 06:47 AM

I like how you employed a Ghost to assist you with the labor. Upside being free labor you never have to feed or pay!

The down side is... if they dont like it they'll haunt you forever. Worth it I think.

LOL. I did not want to post my fathers picture on the net without his permission, but due to the amount of comments i got on the face blur on this and other forum, i posted an unblured pic during his fitting. The coupe is his, so the free labor is net savings on his pocket book, and everytime he changes his mind, the free parts are handed down for the vert, or the next runner up for ;)... mama's new ride...

Motown 454

07-11-2014, 10:30 AM

Thanks Wayne. Hows your 69 coming? Did i miss it being finished?

I wish I could say its done. Family stuff and health was holding it up. Getting ready to get back at it soon. Thanks for asking.

Cryptonomad

10-07-2014, 05:14 PM

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Next...Firewall behind pedal assay's then reinforce pedal carriers and make new brackets to attach it back to the dash structure.

Pont463

10-07-2014, 05:38 PM

This is awesome. I wish my donor car was a later model. I am doing basically the same thing, only with a 2002 donor. Instead of cutting in the tunnel and the firewall section, I actually installed the entire floor and firewall from the 02. It was a lot of work, but it will be nice when everything just bolts back in. I will be following this thread as it gives much needed inspiration to continue on mine.

Cryptonomad

10-07-2014, 05:54 PM

Thanks. We had considered the whole floor and firewall, but the 5th gen is 10" wider and way deeper. the cowl assy was too far off to to make it work

Motown 454

10-07-2014, 06:03 PM

It looks great. Nice work.

Cryptonomad

10-08-2014, 06:15 PM

took a break from sheet metal work to mock the rear suspension and unpack some goodies for final measuring for wheels.
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driveit

10-09-2014, 03:49 PM

armourmark

10-09-2014, 05:51 PM

This thing is going to be awesome! Love the pics! Keep going....

Cryptonomad

10-09-2014, 06:18 PM

Well...we thought we might be able to get by without modifying the inside lower cowl, but the brake pedal carrier and booster location is just too low and interferes with the wheel house and the steering shaft...so lower cowl mods are in order to raise those components, therefore, were are going for the 5th gen wiper motor and evaporator/heater box too. Oh, looks like a factory hood is off the table. LOL
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Cryptonomad

10-09-2014, 06:23 PM

Amazing work. Can't wait to see more! Would be cool to take the new Camaro and fit the old Camaro stuff to it as well. Even put a gen 1 smallblock in it and maybe an old 4 speed or something go totally retro with it.

That would be interesting, i have a 5th gen body in the driveway you can have if you want to attempt that one..just needs a little work. :)

Cryptonomad

04-05-2015, 06:41 AM

Firewall work progress for brakes, clutch, steering. also meats and rims arrived and test fit. 111070
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04-05-2015, 07:46 PM

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Motown 454

04-05-2015, 08:24 PM

Sweet!

Cryptonomad

04-07-2015, 07:47 PM

Clutch pedal carrier clearancing
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Motown 454

04-07-2015, 08:14 PM

I love what your doing. I'm going to try to find a section of floor from a 5th gen like you put in this car to use the 5th gen shifter. Great job!

Cryptonomad

04-11-2015, 05:28 PM

Thanks Wayne,

I see you switched gears and going LSA. Your doing a 4L in it right? My father is going to a bone yard to grab another dash for some experimenting. The Car is coming out of is an 2013 that was auto with the tap shifter. he's going to try an buy whats left of the front clip, so let me know if your interested in the shifter and tunnel around the shifter and or steering wheel (blown airbag).

Motown 454

04-22-2015, 08:36 AM

Thanks. Where are you located? I'm in Mass, shipping would probably be a killer?

Cryptonomad

05-03-2015, 06:05 PM

I'm probably the only guy who has to extend a tr6060 shifter.
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Cryptonomad

09-06-2015, 05:31 PM

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sdg0080

09-06-2015, 05:43 PM

Absolutely awesome build. I love that you're doing something different with the interior.

Cryptonomad

09-06-2015, 05:45 PM

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Motown 454

09-06-2015, 06:10 PM

What your doing on this build is amazing. Keep the updates coming!

Cryptonomad

09-06-2015, 06:22 PM

Thanks Wayne! I see yours is coming along quite nicely..

Motown 454

09-06-2015, 06:34 PM

Thanks Moving forward ... in the right direction.

Cryptonomad

09-16-2015, 12:50 PM

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Motown 454

09-16-2015, 01:40 PM

Nice Job! It looks right at home.

cbpldc

09-22-2015, 12:13 PM

I love the ZL1 wheel you had in your mock-up pics. I installed that exact same wheel in my 2015 Chevy Sonic. Love it, love it love it!

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Cryptonomad

09-22-2015, 12:22 PM

I love the ZL1 wheel you had in your mock-up pics. I installed that exact same wheel in my 2015 Chevy Sonic. Love it, love it love it!

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yea. stopped using the zl1 trim for mock up when we got some standard leather trim to destroy instead. LOL

parsonsj

09-22-2015, 12:49 PM

That's beautiful work. I love it.

fabman70

09-22-2015, 01:13 PM

awesome work guys

Cryptonomad

09-22-2015, 01:26 PM

That's beautiful work. I love it.

thanks John. the LS9 69 is an EPIC build! Awesome work! I'll be sending my father your way for your vent system and mount bosses. He lives just down the road from you in Indian Harbour Beach....the eventual home for this build.

Cryptonomad

09-22-2015, 01:56 PM

Starting to sort the various harnesses. Removing mag-ride, EVAP, sunroof, electric steering, HID, and airbag wiring..as none of that is feasable. Adding rear window motor pigtails, various light connector shell swaps, and resizing the harnesses where necessary.
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Cryptonomad

09-22-2015, 01:57 PM

awesome work guys

Thanks Fabman!

parsonsj

09-22-2015, 04:06 PM

thanks John. the LS9 69 is an EPIC build! Awesome work! I'll be sending my father your way for your vent system and mount bosses. He lives just down the road from you in Indian Harbour Beach....the eventual home for this build.Sounds great. Keep posting those pics!

Cop Magnet

09-22-2015, 06:00 PM

Amazing job on that interior, can't wait to see it all come together inside and out!

TimMC

09-22-2015, 07:04 PM

That is a great build. I bet hours and hours sitting and looking at the harness before the first cut.

driveit

09-22-2015, 08:30 PM

Wow. This is coming along. It had been a while since I had been on. I am thinking of doing something similar, but with my 74 Chevelle. If you ever need a rendering I would be glad to help you out with it. Love it... Awesome build.

Cryptonomad

09-24-2015, 04:49 PM

That is a great build. I bet hours and hours sitting and looking at the harness before the first cut.

Thanks Tim. Yes been looking at schematics and thinking it through for a long while now, so wasn't that bad. hard part was removing all the electrical tape. LOL

Cryptonomad

09-24-2015, 04:51 PM

Cryptonomad

09-24-2015, 05:32 PM

Its amazing how well a 5th gen harness just fits a 1st gen. only need to move the power seat connections to the center of the harness. they were cut by the junkyard crew anyway. The back seat base/floor will be boxed up to accommodate the narrowed 5th gen fold down rear seat, so the harness crossing there is perfect. AllData was wrong on the pinout connector views for the front light harness to ecm connector. i'll post the differences for anyone ever troubleshooting a ZL1.

Motown 454

09-24-2015, 06:16 PM

Amazing that you already have it in.

Cryptonomad

10-12-2015, 04:14 PM

Its been some nice days before the winter weather sets in. So.....Time Lapse....
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Motown 454

10-12-2015, 06:13 PM

It looks good, I guess you made the most of the great weather. Is it ready for new metal?

Cryptonomad

10-16-2015, 02:21 PM

Getting ready to clamp and screw the ass end and roof on for the last time! Dynamat on bottom of roof right before its set on.
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Motown 454

10-16-2015, 02:44 PM

It looks really good. I like the antenna on the roof, great idea!

Cryptonomad

10-16-2015, 02:54 PM

It looks really good. I like the antenna on the roof, great idea!

Idea? LOL....I need it for OnStar and XM..Seriously...Should have seen that one coming! Thanks Wayne.

Motown 454

10-16-2015, 03:31 PM

I forgot this is a 2015 in 60's clothing !

Cryptonomad

10-23-2015, 03:05 PM

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Motown 454

10-23-2015, 03:34 PM

Moving right a long! Looking good.

Cryptonomad

11-17-2015, 11:55 AM

Some progress on back seat fabrication

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Motown 454

11-17-2015, 08:08 PM

Nice job, a lot of tinkering going on there. How much did you take out of the top part of the seat?

Cryptonomad

11-17-2015, 08:12 PM

Nice job, a lot of tinkering going on there. How much did you take out of the top part of the seat?

Narrowed 4.5" chopped 4"

fleming23

11-18-2015, 05:57 PM

Absolutely amazing work! I'm blown away just thinking about the complexity of this project...

Cryptonomad

11-18-2015, 06:06 PM

Absolutely amazing work! I'm blown away just thinking about the complexity of this project...

thanks Fleming.

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11-18-2015, 06:18 PM

Cryptonomad

11-18-2015, 06:58 PM

I too have just read your whole build, I'm thoroughly impressed, I'm travelling in the same direction as your build,5th gen interior and engine, However I'm months, and a lifetime of skill behind you..
Keep up the good work, can I ask how much you trimmed off the back of your dash, looks like you trimmed right up to the gauge pods? like 5 inches.

Thanks James. The dash in the pics is the mockup dash and is trimmed back further than The final will be (never measured..tape line/cut. I cut it short so I could visualize how I was going to mod (cut down and restructure) the 68 steel dash at the front to maintain the correct winshield base and receive the 5th dash. I will be finishing off that structure after I finish the back seats, and making a template to cut down a new 5th dash. When that's done I'll post up linear measurements at 1" increments and pics so you can duplicate the template. It will be pretty close to the pods, and the defroster duct will also slightly intrude the gauge pod.

KB Camaro

11-18-2015, 08:34 PM

awesome work, subscribed.

dangina

11-18-2015, 08:54 PM

awesome work, subscribed.

me too! The rear folding seat is one Idea i really wanted to do, I wish I thought of that antenna idea before I was finished, I love it!!!
Which brand of antenna did you go with?

Cryptonomad

11-18-2015, 09:38 PM

me too! The rear folding seat is one Idea i really wanted to do, I wish I thought of that antenna idea before I was finished, I love it!!!
Which brand of antenna did you go with?

That's the original gm shark fin antenna

slimjim

11-19-2015, 05:16 AM

Thanks James. The dash in the pics is the mockup dash and is trimmed back further than The final will be (never measured..tape line/cut. I cut it short so I could visualize how I was going to mod (cut down and restructure) the 68 steel dash at the front to maintain the correct winshield base and receive the 5th dash. I will be finishing off that structure after I finish the back seats, and making a template to cut down a new 5th dash. When that's done I'll post up linear measurements at 1" increments and pics so you can duplicate the template. It will be pretty close to the pods, and the defroster duct will also slightly intrude the gauge pod.

Much appreciated, reading your post has been costly to me and i am now trying to hunt down transmission tunnels, dash framing and other miscellaneous 5th gen parts. subscribed

Cryptonomad

11-25-2015, 09:15 AM

More progress on back seat/package tray fabrication
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Cryptonomad

12-14-2015, 09:35 AM

package tray mods complete for 5th gen fold down seat.

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foam still needs to be trimmed down, but you get the idea of the direction. the inboard side of the 5th gen interior quarter trim will be used for molding custom 5th gen styled quarter and package tray trim..probably in fiberglass.

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Picked up an OEM style cowl hood. cut out the factory cowl plenum for the win on hood fitment. we will open it up a little more to accommodate the plastic engine cover and clean up and add some low profile support structure to tie back the hood inner structure together. were also brainstorming some ideas on unique heat extractors of some kind.

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Cryptonomad

12-16-2015, 07:37 AM

Wanted to put wheels on and get the car in the air to do plumbing, brackets fab, and e-brake cables mockup for more fab.....So.....It was also a nice day to blow out shop.
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On blocks to do plumbing and other nit-noids brackets and such

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OEM 5th gen e-brake cables for the win!
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slimjim

12-16-2015, 10:00 AM

This car is brilliant, I love every part of it.
Makes me wish I'd looked harder for a donor car rather than buy gen 5 parts individually.
Have you decided on a colour yet?

Cryptonomad

12-17-2015, 07:52 PM

This car is brilliant, I love every part of it.
Makes me wish I'd looked harder for a donor car rather than buy gen 5 parts individually.
Have you decided on a colour yet?

thanks James still up in the air on color.

Cryptonomad

12-17-2015, 08:03 PM

Stuck waiting on nit noid parts, so moved on to radiator support mods to accept the 5th gen rad, fans, AC condenser, and intercooler, and intercooler pump. now that we know we can fit it all in, new OEM rad and condenser will be here monday for final adjustments with non wrecked parts and full weld up. LOL

Motown 454

12-17-2015, 08:36 PM

Now THAT'S a radiator opening! Plenty of room for cooling.

Cryptonomad

12-21-2015, 08:08 AM

dash/windshield bow mods.

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rickpaw

12-21-2015, 11:41 AM

Incredible work.

Looks like you're using the Holley T56 transmission mount, correct?

Cryptonomad

12-21-2015, 03:23 PM

Incredible work.

Looks like you're using the Holley T56 transmission mount, correct?

thanks. yes its holley t56 modified for OEM TR6060 mount

windows

12-21-2015, 05:09 PM

Quality fabrication. Your project looks great, and we appriciate the quantity of good photos that you post.

Cryptonomad

12-23-2015, 05:01 PM

Quality fabrication. Your project looks great, and we appriciate the quantity of good photos that you post.

Thanks!

Cryptonomad

12-23-2015, 05:23 PM

Finished rough fabrication on radiator support. Just needs final welding, grinding, and media blast.

Cryptonomad

01-02-2016, 05:28 PM

Power/Fuse/Relay block, EBCM, and ECM mounts. With everything located, We'll gusset the lower power block tray and EBCM when the inner fender comes back out.

parsonsj

01-03-2016, 06:06 AM

Nice work. Please keep updates coming!

Cryptonomad

01-03-2016, 03:48 PM

Nice work. Please keep updates coming!

thanks John..Will do, but will probably hit storage quota before we finish.

Cryptonomad

01-03-2016, 03:54 PM

Bracket gusset fab.

Motown 454

01-03-2016, 04:06 PM

This is going together so well, your doing a beautiful job. I look forward to your updates.

Cryptonomad

01-05-2016, 03:04 PM

This is going together so well, your doing a beautiful job. I look forward to your updates.

Definitely feels good putting some fabrication dependencies together the last time before finish assembly!

Cryptonomad

01-05-2016, 03:21 PM

Fabrication on the cradle for the Restomod Air Evaporator core. Also installed dowels in the cradle, to locate the core, for easier final install. Went with Restomod Air for a few reasons specific to this build, that we will probably do a dedicated write up on when the reasons prove to be valid. Stay tuned.

parsonsj

01-05-2016, 03:44 PM

will probably hit storage quota before we finish.Let me see if I can do something about that...

Motown 454

01-05-2016, 04:54 PM

I love the brackets for the A/C, nice job.

syborg tt

01-05-2016, 06:31 PM

Very nice project

Cryptonomad

01-07-2016, 10:44 AM

I love the brackets for the A/C, nice job.

Very nice project

Thanks guys!

With the Evaporator installed, that was the last major component that might have shifted the dash structure around. The clutch and brake pedal carriers were finally tied back to the 5th Gen dash structure. process was the same for both. Bolt in, make templates, cut, bend, weld and grind.

Cryptonomad

01-07-2016, 02:37 PM

The fabrication for the dash is complete! Now we can fit the mock cover on to make the final template for trimming the new dash cover. there will be some minor duct fabrication left to do, but that can be done while its away at body and paint. For current summary and example these completed pics are of the dash structure, pedal assy's, BCM, HVAC, and harness its final location and all assembled! BTW the OnStar module is also tucked up under the pass side in its OEM 5th gen location, and the bulk connectors to the body harness will tuck nicely into the door hinge plate sockets.

slimjim

01-07-2016, 03:11 PM

This is brilliant! I'm very grateful for the amount of pictures you post

parsonsj

01-07-2016, 03:25 PM

Cryptonomad

01-07-2016, 05:02 PM

One thing I just did to my Z06 (and I'm told is a common upgrade to the GenV Camaro) is to replace the clutch master cylinder. Tick Performance has a nice upgrade. I say this because you won't need the clutch springs if you do that, and you'll have a vastly improved clutch pedal feel.

Thanks John. We did research before and also came to the same conclusion on the oem clutch master. Last i heard Tick doesn't have a replacement for the 5th gen, and was unable to find anything but stock GM replacement on their site just now. I'll do some more poking around.

PS I did drill out the spot welds in the clutch pedal carrier that holds the CMC and realign the whole thing with perpendicular travel for the whole 1 1/4" it moves. It is not like that from factory, which surprised me a little with such a short throw. Read a lot about them leaking. If we weren't married to the clutch and brake sensors, we would have stayed with the common 3rd gen setup that we already bought from Tick. Although failure rate on the OEM 5th gen is far less then the 3rd gen conversion most 1st gen'ers do for sure! lol

PSS also we are using a remote reservoir instead of the brake reservoir OEM style for that reason also.

Cryptonomad

01-07-2016, 05:05 PM

This is brilliant! I'm very grateful for the amount of pictures you post

Thanks James. No worries on the pics. i take tons. If there is something you want to see thats not posted, just let me know.Your grille is pretty snazzy. We still haven't decided on what direction to go on this one yet.

Cryptonomad

01-12-2016, 05:53 PM

Engine bay... fab brake lines to EBCM and 5th gen wiper motor.

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Motown 454

01-12-2016, 07:37 PM

The lines look good. This makes me wish I could get back in the garage.

Motown 454

01-28-2016, 03:43 PM

Nice steady progress. Its got to feel nice having all that packaging under the dash done.

Cryptonomad

01-28-2016, 03:48 PM

Nice steady progress. Its got to feel nice having all that packaging under the dash done.
Yea Wayne. a lot of steady progress, but so many details still need attention. having issues uploading new pics..awaiting resolution from mods. some updates on the other forum.

Cryptonomad

01-28-2016, 03:49 PM

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Motown 454

01-28-2016, 03:54 PM

I'll check them out.

Cryptonomad

01-29-2016, 07:28 AM

Waiting on some AC lines to be delivered to finish the subframe notch closeout...so moved around a bit.

Brake line rough in done. looking for some OEM style clamps for the lines, but may have to settle for Aircraft style.https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/80img_1423_c7ebb005c514488080ce8c1fef338-1.jpg

Bung welded in to Holley pan for the OEM Oil Temp/Level sensor

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A little massaging of the OEM trans cooler lines to clamp back onto the oil pan and exit between engine and AC compressor.
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Motown 454

01-29-2016, 07:59 AM

Talk about modern upgrades! Are you using the My Link radio from the Camaro ?

Cryptonomad

01-29-2016, 08:15 AM

Talk about modern upgrades! Are you using the My Link radio from the Camaro ?

Yes. Programmed the MYlink radio and was jamming to XM while i was sorting the harness a few months back. Was teasing my father with onstar calls....LOL trying to get him to sub his harness to onstar in case i fried a module he'd get notified.
The original MYlink we got with the donor car was fried. This is a replacement tested while harness was on floor, before i unlocked it.

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Demonstrating how bright tail lights are trying to avoid LED's that will complicate BCM nags were already working through.

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Cryptonomad

02-03-2016, 05:27 PM

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Motown 454

02-03-2016, 07:05 PM

A little more slicing and dicing on that trunk seal gutter and you got it. A lot of work getting the tail panel to fit right. Nice work.

Cryptonomad

02-04-2016, 04:26 PM

A Little slice and stitch took care of the quarter to tail panel issue..

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Cryptonomad

02-10-2016, 10:01 AM

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migg400

02-10-2016, 11:45 AM

This is an AWESOME build. Love the way this thing is coming together!!!

Motown 454

02-10-2016, 11:48 AM

Those are the factory E Brake cables, correct? did they connect to the rear brake as original or did you have to change the ends? They look good.

Cryptonomad

02-10-2016, 02:30 PM

This is an AWESOME build. Love the way this thing is coming together!!!
thanks migg400!

Those are the factory E Brake cables, correct? did they connect to the rear brake as original or did you have to change the ends? They look good.

Yes Wayne. They are factory 5th gen E-brake cables with their ends intact. We mildly filed the casting marks on the inside of the end, and they slid right on. we also had to enlarge the hole on the bracket itself for the cable casing to slide in. It does have to be shortened and new swages on the front where the vise grips are clamped on in the pics, but other than that....near perfect fit for our application, and ops checks good.

Cryptonomad

02-10-2016, 02:39 PM

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Cryptonomad

02-16-2016, 03:54 PM

Finished subframe mods, to include AC notch. The pics show clearances around the late model ctsv AC compressor. It is really tight and may need a little BFH work to dimple some more for the high side line manifold bolt to be safe. pics are deceiving as there is about 3/8". clearance for the coilovers. Also the intercooler pump bracket made to mount pump close to the OEM 5th gen position. It is time consuming to fabricate things and then assemble to make sure everything still ends up where it should. Subframe is ready for prep and paint.

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Motown 454

02-16-2016, 06:58 PM

That's a lot of stuff in a small area! Coming out nice.

Cryptonomad

02-16-2016, 07:06 PM

That's a lot of stuff in a small area! Coming out nice.

yep. getting tight!

Cryptonomad

02-22-2016, 06:25 PM

Getting ready to install tulip covers, then put the car back on the rotisserie for prep, paint, and final assembly of the bottom of the car and firewall. These are some outliers that needed to be finished first. Brake booster angle shim, re-arch brake and clutch pedals to ensure full travel, stop to stop. Battery cable. Astro-vent close-outs. Oh...and fuel cap (Precision Coachworks)

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Cryptonomad

03-04-2016, 09:14 AM

A lot of final welding, close up, bodywork, seam sealing, prep, and paint this week working towards final assembly of the bottom of the car, suspension, and drivetrain. The underside of the trans tunnel and wheel wells have a base coat of spray on bedliner for additional durability before top coated in satin black. Brief sidetrack to shorten emergency brake cables 4 1/4" and the method used. Was unable to find a location local that could swage new cable ends, so used another popular method of plug welding a homemade barrel on.

After about 5 days cure time on the top coats, we will install the subframe and swing the whole body assembly on the rotisserie for brake and fuel line, fuel tank, and misc nit noids.

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xsboost90

03-04-2016, 07:00 PM

Cryptonomad

03-06-2016, 07:13 PM

looking great! Are you doing anything at the bottom corners of the rear window on the coupe? I had a 69 firebird and it rusted in that corner since it would never drain water out. I fixed the rust but it eventually started coming back. Maybe put a small drain in the window track or fill it up with sealer when you put the window in.

Thanks. No drain tubes, just silicon bronzed seams and the windows will be installed using urethane and dams instead of the old butyl tape. Besides..We will all be dust in the ground before it rusts out again! LOL

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Cryptonomad

03-28-2016, 09:06 PM

assembly shots...tomorrow is road test for mechanical shake down!

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Motown 454

03-29-2016, 10:19 AM

Wow, Nice update!

Cryptonomad

03-30-2016, 05:28 AM

Wow, Nice update!

Thanks Wayne!

Cryptonomad

03-30-2016, 05:34 AM

The start up was was bitter sweet, and only had a few issues. had a faulty high power steering fitting that blew fluid all over the nicely painted chassis, and were short one intake tube bend, so had to turn up intake temporarily and fix the steering line for the shake down test drive. Consequently lost day light, so we did back out of shop on its own power. Short video

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slimjim

03-30-2016, 06:50 AM

exciting days! must be such a nice feeling

Motown 454

03-30-2016, 07:20 AM

Congratulation's John! With all the rewiring and changes you had to make it's a feat just getting it started never mind moving under it's own power. Nice job!!

Cryptonomad

03-30-2016, 03:36 PM

exciting days! must be such a nice feeling

Congratulation's John! With all the rewiring and changes you had to make it's a feat just getting it started never mind moving under it's own power. Nice job!!

Yep Jim! Thanks Wayne!

Cryptonomad

03-30-2016, 03:37 PM

Pure Joy!!!!

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Motown 454

03-30-2016, 03:57 PM

NICE! That looked like a win! Was the rest of the ride as good as the first part looked ?

Cryptonomad

03-30-2016, 09:01 PM

NICE! That looked like a win! Was the rest of the ride as good as the first part looked ?

Good drive..just up the block about 1/2 mi.....but sideways in every gear!...LOL

Motown 454

03-31-2016, 03:18 AM

Sweet !

hessdawg

04-18-2016, 09:54 PM

Hi
Great build
How are you gonna run the windshield defrost?
Thanks brad

Cryptonomad

04-23-2016, 03:52 AM

Hi
Great build
How are you gonna run the windshield defrost?
Thanks brad

Thanks. Custom scaled down 5th gen defroster vent.

Cryptonomad

04-23-2016, 03:55 AM

Tail pipes fabricated and installed, exterior door handles, XM and backup camera.

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A little louder with tailpipes

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slimjim

04-23-2016, 07:24 AM

those door handles look great

Cryptonomad

04-24-2016, 06:19 AM

For anyone wondering on the exhaust tailpipes over the chassisworks 4-link. We started with a magnaflow 2.5" mandrel system. Purchased 2 additional 5" mandrel u-bends and cut, clocked, and welded parts from each. In the pic you can tell which parts of pipe came from original tailpipe or u-bend by the sheen. The u-bends were not polished.

Cryptonomad

04-24-2016, 06:26 AM

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Cryptonomad

04-24-2016, 09:56 AM

HERE (https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/120560-Opinions-5th-gen-mirrors-on-first-gen-with-moc-up-pics?p=1185332#post1185332)

Cryptonomad

07-03-2016, 03:08 PM

started body work. lead work and silicon bronze.

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Motown 454

07-03-2016, 06:06 PM

You don't see it being done this way very often. Very Nice!

Cryptonomad

08-21-2016, 02:08 PM

Its been a while...too hot here in NVA. Here is work on custom valance. liked the 69 fogs, however wanted something a little different than has been done before. Wanted to keep the center open for air flow to the coolers while maintaining structure re-installing support for the hood latch/grille/lower valance assy. The lights are led fogs with multicolor halo's. the halos will be used for DRL/turn signal. Still thinking about how going to close above the fogs..RS grille mounts there and they need to stay..

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Motown 454

08-21-2016, 03:39 PM

I was thinking of your project today. It looks good.

ryeguy2006a

08-24-2016, 04:34 AM

You do some amazing work! I really like the valance treatment.

bonecrrusher

08-26-2016, 11:35 AM

Man - did you have a whole 5th gen body harness in the car to get that radio working?

armourmark

08-27-2016, 06:39 AM

This thing is awesome..can't wait to see the final product!

Cryptonomad

08-27-2016, 09:17 AM

I was thinking of your project today. It looks good.

You do some amazing work! I really like the valance treatment.

Thanks Guys.

Man - did you have a whole 5th gen body harness in the car to get that radio working?

The whole harness is for everything else., but yes the mylink has some requirements.

Cryptonomad

08-27-2016, 09:19 AM

This thing is awesome..can't wait to see the final product!

Thanks!

In the interest of completeness. close out above the light pod.

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Motown 454

08-27-2016, 09:27 AM

Nice job it came out great.

Cryptonomad

09-03-2016, 07:44 AM

Nice job it came out great.

Thanks Wayne.

Last valance post...promise

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Motown 454

11-09-2016, 05:13 PM

Hi John how's it going? Any updates?

AB69Z

11-09-2016, 08:27 PM

Can you tell us about the door handles?

Cryptonomad

11-11-2016, 03:48 PM

Hi John how's it going? Any updates?

Hey Wayne...Been busy at work, but have been making a little headway.

Can you tell us about the door handles?

Door handles are 5th gen camaro, along with the latches and strikers.

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Bob in St. Louis

11-11-2016, 05:15 PM

Neat!
I love the level of craftsmanship.

Please tell me the name of this little tool. I assume it's a "holding tool" to keep the piece held in place while it's tacked on?

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Cryptonomad

11-11-2016, 06:03 PM

Bob in St. Louis

11-11-2016, 06:16 PM

Thanks. It's a sheetmetal butt clamp.

Good deal, thank you.
I'm new to bodywork, and that looks like a handy little widget.
Tomorrow, I'll be spending the second weekend replacing the rotted out rockers on my truck.
This handy little fellow would be a welcome addition to the task at hand.
Thanks again!

Motown 454

11-11-2016, 06:42 PM

Some nice progress. The handles look nice.

Cryptonomad

11-17-2016, 07:36 AM

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Motown 454

11-17-2016, 11:02 AM

That will keep the metal safe from rust. It looks good.

Cryptonomad

12-29-2016, 05:33 PM

Mods for 5th gen hood latch.

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Motown 454

12-29-2016, 05:56 PM

Very Nice. Not going to be much of the donor car that your not using.

Cryptonomad

01-16-2017, 06:07 PM

Getting closer..final fitting all components in the nose..making any necessary adjustments for headlight doors/motors. last thing to do is shave the bumper bracket slots in the lower fender, then off to paint late Feb/early Mar.

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slimjim

01-16-2017, 06:56 PM

Yesss! looking good, Can't wait for the next updates when it's all painted

1sikride

01-16-2017, 07:09 PM

i want i want....

Cryptonomad

05-20-2017, 03:25 PM

Off to paint this week...a few months late!

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Motown 454

05-20-2017, 06:55 PM

This Will be the hardest part for you, you have no control of this Part of the build.

Gmc427

05-21-2017, 03:36 AM

hi,very nice build!what are the make of the wheels you are running?backspace?regards

1sikride

05-21-2017, 04:13 AM

Is that a custom hood? Or did u make that
Hood using a couple universal vents?
If so, link or source for the vents?

Thanks.

1sikride

05-25-2017, 09:43 AM

Eh eh

rohrt

05-26-2017, 10:53 AM

Absolutely love the build.

How about a shop tour? Would like to see what you have in the shop to fab all that metal work.

Cryptonomad

07-09-2017, 07:14 AM

stage 1 leveling.

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Cryptonomad

07-09-2017, 07:15 AM

Poly coat.

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Cryptonomad

07-09-2017, 07:17 AM

Is that a custom hood? Or did u make that
Hood using a couple universal vents?
If so, link or source for the vents?

Thanks.

hexvents

Cryptonomad

07-09-2017, 07:20 AM

Absolutely love the build.

How about a shop tour? Would like to see what you have in the shop to fab all that metal work.

thanks. i have nothing special. if there is something that you have specific question, i'll explain how i did it.

Cryptonomad

07-09-2017, 07:31 AM

While the hardtop in paint. giving the vert some love. Quarters are AMD (Tri star). Thats 1/2'" gap on either side!.
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slimjim

07-09-2017, 08:13 AM

Great work John, I've been wondering what you've been up to!

Wraith

07-09-2017, 12:30 PM

Not sure how I missed this build but WOW, awesome work!

Motown 454

07-09-2017, 12:40 PM

It's a good thing you can do your own figment , you must have a ton of time in it. It looks great, nice work.

Cryptonomad

07-10-2017, 03:06 PM

Not sure how I missed this build but WOW, awesome work!

It's a good thing you can do your own figment , you must have a ton of time in it. It looks great, nice work.

Thanks. Yea..that's about 12hrs on that side. Most of it cool down time to minimize warpage. And that's just the top. Still need to clean up bottom to make sure moisture can be sealed out.

Cryptonomad

07-16-2017, 11:36 AM

blocking starts this week.

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Motown 454

07-16-2017, 02:12 PM

Nice, it looks good. All the work you did will pay off now.

67SSDan

07-16-2017, 04:30 PM

This build is awesome!

Dan

chiva

07-16-2017, 09:12 PM

Wow! Amazing fabrication skills. Even more amazing is you vision and imagination for this project. Most of us couldn't even begin to imagine doing a project this cool!

Cryptonomad

07-30-2017, 12:37 PM

Hardtop is going to be Nightshade Grey Metallic (still working on stripe), and the vert Hyper Blue Metallic with white bumblebee. The vert was really clean with the exception of the quarters and lower outer wheel wells. i opted to patch the outer wheel wells due to the amount of work and structure on the convertibles, combined with the fact the not a lick of rot an inch off the lips. everything will be aligned, cleco'd, and the quarter will be removed to scribe and cut the replacement lip for a clean butt weld..

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Motown 454

07-30-2017, 03:28 PM

Wow you must have smiled when you saw how good those gaps came out.

Cryptonomad

07-30-2017, 04:05 PM

Wow you must have smiled when you saw how good those gaps came out.

Yes Wayne big smile... considering the amount of work on the trunk gutters of the quarters.

slimjim

07-30-2017, 04:20 PM

this is crazy, you're CRAZY! most of us are struggling to finish 1 car, meanwhile you're producing two :hail:

Motown 454

07-31-2017, 07:25 AM

this is crazy, you're CRAZY! most of us are struggling to finish 1 car, meanwhile you're producing two :hail:

Yes two, and going further than any other I've seen.

minendrews68

07-31-2017, 08:38 AM

Pure Joy!!!!

https://youtu.be/8DRWQC7P6wA

That's funny... I promise you, I drove my Camaro when it was at this stage, only in January! Felt great though.

minendrews68

07-31-2017, 08:40 AM

Cryptonomad

07-31-2017, 09:14 AM

That's funny... I promise you, I drove my Camaro when it was at this stage, only in January! Felt great though..

Thanks..yep rotisserie mounts still hanging off the frame rails..LOL. Sometimes you need a glimpse of what it will feel like to keep moving forward. That was a big boost.

Josh@Ridetech

07-31-2017, 10:07 AM

Looks good!

Cryptonomad

07-31-2017, 10:08 AM

this is crazy, you're CRAZY! most of us are struggling to finish 1 car, meanwhile you're producing two :hail:

Gotta stay busy..work on some different things to stay sane!

This guy is seasoning..collecting sheetmeatal waiting for his turn

142780

This guy sneaks in out of storage every few months for some attention....mainly because I'm a chevy guy..lol

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Cryptonomad

07-31-2017, 10:19 AM

Looks good!

Thx Josh

Peanut1959

08-01-2017, 06:40 PM

What an insane build! Subscribed.

By the way, did you decide to go with the Gen 5 mirrors?

slimjim

08-02-2017, 02:45 AM

Cryptonomad

08-02-2017, 03:58 AM

No. The 5th gen were just to bulky. The 6th gen are a tad smaller, but both are boxy style as well and it just didn't look right all around. We went with mid 90s Buick mirrors.

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Cryptonomad

08-02-2017, 04:07 AM

I don't believe he did, I also bought a set that are collecting dust as I'm going another route but here's some motivation towards them...
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sorry for the highjack

They look good on that vette. My cousin also put them on his 68 impala and they look like they were born there too.

Motown 454

08-02-2017, 09:34 AM

John I'm going crazy with one project! you are definitely dedicated.....oh yeah talented too.

Cryptonomad

08-11-2017, 02:26 PM

Final colors selection....in 2K to be blown apart next week for edging....about 30 days ETC.

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Motown 454

08-11-2017, 04:09 PM

It looks nice and straight, looking good.

Cryptonomad

08-31-2017, 01:32 PM

Almost out of paint jail! One more week for cut and buff.

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08-31-2017, 01:34 PM

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beater65

08-31-2017, 01:57 PM

That is some slick laid paint....

slimjim

08-31-2017, 04:13 PM

wow, I cannot wait to see final pictures of that when it rolls out!

Bob in St. Louis

08-31-2017, 05:09 PM

That's more paint porn than I've ever seen in one post.
Awesome!!

Motown 454

08-31-2017, 06:33 PM

That looks SLICK ! Very Nice.

67SSDan

09-01-2017, 03:24 AM

That turned out great man!!

dhutton

09-01-2017, 04:51 AM

Love this car. Pure win....

Don

Cryptonomad

09-20-2017, 03:39 PM

Last trailer trip! Home!

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Motown 454

09-20-2017, 03:51 PM

Oh John, that looks nice ! Do you figure you'll have it together to drive this fall? It must feel good to be this close.

slimjim

09-20-2017, 08:39 PM

It's looking so good, great choice of colors :firefire:

Cryptonomad

10-07-2017, 01:46 PM

Took a breather for a few weeks after the stress of getting it out of paint shop. Starting to get it put together. Working way back with the dynamat, made and installed AC lines and vacuumed down for leaks before starting to assemble everything on top of them. Installed exterior lights in prep to start tailoring the harnesses. Also a clip the body shop produced.

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AB69Z

10-08-2017, 03:56 AM

What supplier did you use for the DRL/TURN SIGNALS ?

Cryptonomad

10-08-2017, 08:55 AM

What supplier did you use for the DRL/TURN SIGNALS ?

alibaba...couldn't find them again I'm sure....

Motown 454

10-08-2017, 08:34 PM

That’s a nice video for a keep sake. The car look great John.

Cryptonomad

01-01-2018, 09:19 AM

It been a little while. Been wiring, dressing, and final assembly. Nothing out of the ordinary except a few things.

This is the new Airbags/SeatBelt Pretensioners Module...LOL

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OEM TPMS system for the Win!

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DRL's were originally blue..didnt digg and one was flakey, so replaced with white with demon eye.

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Side mirrors..Power/heated/signals.

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Rear window defroster element installation.

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Bob in St. Louis

01-01-2018, 10:13 AM

That's awesome! I love the fact you're integrating some modern features into it.

slimjim

01-01-2018, 12:42 PM

When you're done building this masterpiece of technology I may know a guy requiring your wisdom :attn:

Cryptonomad

01-01-2018, 01:43 PM

When you're done building this masterpiece of technology I may know a guy requiring your wisdom :attn:

Hey Jim...i know a guy who is way ahead on his door panels, and they are actually looking really promising......

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DT69Cam

01-01-2018, 02:10 PM

Wow awesome build!!!

slimjim

01-01-2018, 02:41 PM

Hey Jim...i know a guy who is way ahead on his door panels, and they are actually looking really promising......

They're a major working progress, and currently on hold while I learn how to sew..

Snowcatter

01-01-2018, 04:53 PM

Cryptonomad

01-01-2018, 05:54 PM

John, First off...madd props for what you have built here. I am very impressed with your talent and vision. I have been dreaming up a build like this for a couple years now and am finally getting ready to begin. I was curious if anyone had attempted this level of ZL1 integration and after a quick search I found your post. My plans are slightly different since i'm going to use a Real Deal Steel 69 body, Art Morrison Front subframe, and IRS in the back to help keep that 580 ponies on the road ;) I Have owned both a 69 Camaro, and a 2013 ZL1 and have wanted to merge the two ever since. I am currently in the process of obtaining the necessary ZL1 donor car. You have done so many of the things I was planning to do (Engine, Transmission, Dash, Seats, Door Handles, Main Harness, ABS, Onstar/XM, Parking assist) I was also planning to use the mirrors and sunroof. Curious why you chose not to use the ZL1 brakes? Again great job...this post has already answered a ton of questions I had rattling around in this brain of mine. I look forward to seeing your finished car and will probably have questions when I get head first in it.

Thanks..the donor zl1 we got was stripped of everything but the dash, body harness, bcm, and a few modules....so suspension and brakes were gone. at the time the c6z06 OEM brake kit was the simplest bolt-on (no mods required) for the ATS spindles as well as the torino big ends on the 9" thanks to Kore3..can buy the replacements anywhere if something goes wrong on road. A lot of the mods were done not necessarily to be cool, but more so for reliability and servicability. We would have loved to install the AME IRS had it been available when we started...that would have gotten us wheel speed sensors for ABS/TCS..its all wired in and modules in place just no good sensor solutions..do a search on here or ls1tech. i posted pics of 5th gen mirror taped to the car...way to big for our tastes. Sunroof is a big get if you pull it off...if you plan on using the window modules for controlling the windows through the LIN busses, you will need to toss the sunroof off your wish list. the sunroof uses the same LIN bus as the rear windows (convertible). base BCM calibration of a non sunroof car will allow you to pin in rear window harness without BCM recal....or make sure donor car is a factory convertible and you get it all. GM not to likely to issue a VCI number to your donor VIN adding or removing RPO cals. Good luck! and post your questions.