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Sales-TCI-Eng
01-21-2014, 12:10 PM
Project #RedDawn

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/7120Camaro20Red20Dawn203201620Composite_-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/71%20Camaro%20Red%20Dawn%203-2016%20Composite_zpszejv1u4b.jpg.html)

Now that the C10 product development is nearly finished it is time to finally start the 2nd Gen Camaro development.

This car will be used for product development and performance testing. It will be a fairly quick/simple build. We plan to design a light weight tubular front clip similar to what we offer now for the 1st gens. We will probably just do a head & cam package on the existing engine and throw a built 700R behind it. We will mini-tub it of course and try to squeeze as much tire in it as possible. Depending on how things work out this car may replace our '68 that we currently have in the line-up.

Here is what it looks like now before we begin.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/IMG_5960_zps332d2a75-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5960_zps332d2a75.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/IMG_5962_zpsc8761597-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5962_zpsc8761597.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/IMG_5963_zps226906ac-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5963_zps226906ac.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/IMG_5964_zps4daa47b6-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5964_zps4daa47b6.jpg.html)


-Jason

Zoomin
01-22-2014, 09:50 AM
Looks like a nice car to start with.

rawrods
01-22-2014, 03:38 PM
Wish the car we are doing was a 71 and was in this good of shape. Looking forward to the build.

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-22-2014, 08:25 AM
Nothing to crazy to report on this project yet but it is moving forward. Most of the front has been disassembled.


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1899_zpsf5018805-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1899_zpsf5018805.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1898_zpse2ea5e13-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1898_zpse2ea5e13.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1897_zps456c610f-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1897_zps456c610f.jpg.html)

Sal & Ed discussing some ideas

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1695_zps8699ff39-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1695_zps8699ff39.jpg.html)

-J

ULTM8Z
04-22-2014, 12:55 PM
Curious why you guys aren't planning to put a 6X auto in it??

I've actually been drooling over that trans, but it's so cost prohibitive... :crying:

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-22-2014, 01:09 PM
Curious why you guys aren't planning to put a 6X auto in it??

I've actually been drooling over that trans, but it's so cost prohibitive... :crying:

We would love to run one also but we can't afford it either. :secret: Or I should say the guy that writes the checks is a Ford guy so our Chevy budget isn't enough.

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-25-2014, 09:56 AM
The stock front clip is out and we've taken one of our 1st Gen clips and mocked it up

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1939_zpsa1947364-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1939_zpsa1947364.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1935_zpsa117ec1a-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1935_zpsa117ec1a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1942_zps4f00c2b9-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1942_zps4f00c2b9.jpg.html)

After mocking up the fully welded 1st gen Clip it was now time to take an unfinished clip and mock it up (we left off all 6 mounting points)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1954_zps20c5090a-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1954_zps20c5090a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1955_zps936a5cda-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1955_zps936a5cda.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1950_zps302cacab-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1950_zps302cacab.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1959_zpsc51d49e6-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1959_zpsc51d49e6.jpg.html)

We left the slip joint unwelded so we could adjust the rear mounting point.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1961_zps2dee64c7-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1961_zps2dee64c7.jpg.html)

The firewall mount was pretty close

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1963_zpsc8ea08bf-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1963_zpsc8ea08bf.jpg.html)

Ed checking the wheelbase and ride height

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/IMG_1968_zps479c0c75-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1968_zps479c0c75.jpg.html)


More updates very soon.

-J

Bryce
04-26-2014, 06:36 AM
Tubular bro. I like it

rawrods
04-27-2014, 04:48 PM
Nice! I wish we were doing tubular on the 76.

rustomatic
04-27-2014, 05:13 PM
Will this car receive the torque arm, or shall we see an over-the-axle boulder holder?

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-28-2014, 08:28 AM
Yes, we plan on utilizing a Torque Arm system on the 2nd Gen.

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
05-05-2014, 01:30 PM
Ed is using some 1/8" plate to locate the clip for now. The upper tubes had to be moved to accomodate the inner panels. I will continue to post updates as we make progress throughout the design phase.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/05/IMG_2441_zps034720e5-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2441_zps034720e5.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/05/IMG_2442_zpsf7795342-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2442_zpsf7795342.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/05/IMG_2443_zps7538c2fe-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2443_zps7538c2fe.jpg.html)

-J

David Pozzi
05-07-2014, 08:43 AM
Cool build!
Thanks for starting it.

Sales-TCI-Eng
06-24-2014, 12:24 PM
The front clip is for the most part in the 1st stage of finalization. Fixtures are being made, first articles are being built so now they've moved onto the back of the car.

We will be posting the weight of our clip very soon but we're fairly certain it will be at least 100 lbs lighter than stock.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_2763_zpsf1717b5b-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2763_zpsf1717b5b.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_2764_zps9efe4a67-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2764_zps9efe4a67.jpg.html)

Torque Arm rear suspension mock up

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_2998_zps50337aed-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2998_zps50337aed.jpg.html)

Coil-Over crossmember

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_2999_zpsd451a88d-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2999_zpsd451a88d.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3000_zpsbe174ffd-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3000_zpsbe174ffd.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3001_zpse21fb5e1-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3001_zpse21fb5e1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3428_zpsfca31ebb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3428_zpsfca31ebb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3430_zpsef188d1a-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3430_zpsef188d1a.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3431_zps6b06c6be-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3431_zps6b06c6be.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/06/IMG_3432_zps16374790-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_3432_zps16374790.jpg.html)

-J

grendel
09-09-2014, 07:31 PM
Looks awesome. What spindle are you using in front? Mustang II, Corvette?

I like the Ride Tech Coil overs, would also like to use their A-arms in my 73 Camaro build. Love the idea of a clean sub-frame with a rack and pinion.

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-10-2014, 08:39 AM
We use our Custom spindle on this application.

102602

The control arms will be proprietary with our front clip so the Ridetech arms won't work.

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
10-21-2014, 09:21 AM
Now that we've completed full mock up of a stock tub suspension kit it was time to move onto a kit to work with a mini-tub.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/10/IMG_5949_zps8537d198-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5949_zps8537d198.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/10/IMG_5951_zps87583cc1-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5951_zps87583cc1.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/10/IMG_5952_zpsa547e688-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5952_zpsa547e688.jpg.html)


Our speaker tray was also in bad shape so we will make a new one.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/10/IMG_5962_zpsf23d1c87-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5962_zpsf23d1c87.jpg.html)


-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
02-27-2015, 03:46 PM
It's been a few months since Ed has allowed me to post pics so bare with me as I catch you up to date.

The front clip is very close to completion.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_1729_zpss0rhojoz-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1729_zpss0rhojoz.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_1731_zpsinuaricg-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1731_zpsinuaricg.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_0892_zpskyhjhde7-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_0892_zpskyhjhde7.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_1897_zpsylo3nqha-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1897_zpsylo3nqha.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_1896_zpszrm5lg5b-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1896_zpszrm5lg5b.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_1893_zpsbnkiboq4-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1893_zpsbnkiboq4.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_0890_zpsd4lha89b-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_0890_zpsd4lha89b.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_0889_zpszk9fslrf-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_0889_zpszk9fslrf.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_0888_zps5xpetle4-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_0888_zps5xpetle4.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/02/IMG_0886_zpslxczagcc-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_0886_zpslxczagcc.jpg.html)

-J

ULTM8Z
02-27-2015, 03:50 PM
Looks awesome!!

CampbellshotrodsAZ
02-27-2015, 04:12 PM
Looking great, can't wait to see it done!

And I don't know what the exterior plans are, but I beg of you, please keep the full width front bumper on, or do a full Rally Sport conversion, nothing in between.... pleeaasseee!

Sales-TCI-Eng
02-27-2015, 04:34 PM
Looking great, can't wait to see it done!

And I don't know what the exterior plans are, but I beg of you, please keep the full width front bumper on, or do a full Rally Sport conversion, nothing in between.... pleeaasseee!

HAHA, I am right there with ya on that one. I will do my best but they are looking at every single way of dropping weight on this car and I know the temptation to get rid of the full bumper will be there eventually.

-J

Onebad78ta
02-27-2015, 04:50 PM
Very cool,,I like it.

Sales-TCI-Eng
07-31-2015, 01:52 PM
We finally got back to work on the Camaro project the last few weeks.

We don't plan on making this car nearly as nice as the Mustang but we still cleaned the underbelly of most of the factory undercoating and years of gunk.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4851_zpspp3feneb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4851_zpspp3feneb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4852_zpsw6xs2vzv-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4852_zpsw6xs2vzv.jpg.html)

Here is the trans tunnel mount plate.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4853_zpsrpkyaxhd-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4853_zpsrpkyaxhd.jpg.html)

Back of the trans tunnel mount, The tunnel will be easy to remove.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4854_zpsb4ryzqnl-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4854_zpsb4ryzqnl.jpg.html)

Welded up most of the holes on the firewall. We debated on replacing it all together or just doing a cosmetic overlay.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4882_zpscbwr3tiq-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4882_zpscbwr3tiq.jpg.html)

Danny going to town on the trunk

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4883_zps5ulubcnv-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4883_zps5ulubcnv.jpg.html)

Some of the parts came back from powdercoat.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4885_zpspt8lni7x-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4885_zpspt8lni7x.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4886_zpsvgn4cnvi-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4886_zpsvgn4cnvi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4887_zpsel5pfyc2-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4887_zpsel5pfyc2.jpg.html)

Trans tunnel and 35 spline Currie axles

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4889_zpspzwbbakw-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4889_zpspzwbbakw.jpg.html)

The bottom was sprayed with undercoating

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4890_zpsot6fr2w3-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4890_zpsot6fr2w3.jpg.html)

Could this be reassembly? Say it ain't so.....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4892_zpss71ivbda-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4892_zpss71ivbda.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4894_zpsnf1d2awb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4894_zpsnf1d2awb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4894_zpsnf1d2awb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4894_zpsnf1d2awb.jpg.html)

Steering column firewall mount

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4980_zps5nyzgcfd-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4980_zps5nyzgcfd.jpg.html)

They decided on doing an overlay

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4981_zps949oekq8-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4981_zps949oekq8.jpg.html)

Downbars will be tied to the cage.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4982_zpsbguvdi8v-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4982_zpsbguvdi8v.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4983_zpsbhl45xva-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4983_zpsbhl45xva.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4984_zpssovnnkzt-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4984_zpssovnnkzt.jpg.html)

Cage is finish welded

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4985_zpsi9n8oycw-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4985_zpsi9n8oycw.jpg.html)


-J

DJW32
07-31-2015, 07:18 PM
J,
Is this your car?

Did you guys use a 6 point cage?

wfo guy
08-01-2015, 02:12 AM
I like that front stub. It looks well thought out.

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-01-2015, 08:57 AM
J,
Is this your car?

Did you guys use a 6 point cage?


It is a 8 point technically since the firewall bars will tie into the front clip. It's not my personal car, it's owned by the company. I say 'Company' because Ed won't claim ownership of a Chevy.......LOL

We have good news. The new bullet arrived from Lingenfelter. It's a 644hp LS7. It made that power with factory C6 exhaust manifolds too so we're hoping it'll make 600 at the tires with a proper stepped header on it.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/IMG_52715_zpsax48pzqb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5271.5_zpsax48pzqb.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/IMG_52725_zpskjhakdrx-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5272.5_zpskjhakdrx.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/IMG_52735_zpsnsq2ltwh-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5273.5_zpsnsq2ltwh.jpg.html)

We set her back an inch or so.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/IMG_52765_zpsquk39swn-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_5276.5_zpsquk39swn.jpg.html)

Mocked up some 315/30/18's on an 11" wide wheel.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/20150828_150004_zpsphmub4hw-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/20150828_150004_zpsphmub4hw.jpg.html)

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-04-2015, 10:08 AM
Working on a new valence

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/09/IMG_6463_zpsrjeugk7o-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_6463_zpsrjeugk7o.jpg.html)

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Mocking up some Derale coolers

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-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-21-2015, 07:56 AM
Still working on the front sheet metal.

Air ducts for the coolers (power steering & oil)

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-J

jp455
09-21-2015, 09:40 AM
Awesome build! Seriously digging the tubular subframe! Looking forward to seeing the sale price. Do you guys do those builds just to verify/demo your prototype parts or do you do customer builds too?

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-25-2015, 02:09 PM
Awesome build! Seriously digging the tubular subframe! Looking forward to seeing the sale price. Do you guys do those builds just to verify/demo your prototype parts or do you do customer builds too?

We only build internal vehicles for R&D purposes. The 2nd Gen IFS is available now. http://www.totalcostinvolved.com/p/73/1970-1981-chevy-camaro-custom-coil-over-ifs-plain-package-built-for-street-drag-autocross


Slowly making progress on the front end.

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Covering up the Derale coolers with louvered pieces to keep tire debris out

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-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
11-11-2015, 10:18 AM
We got a bunch of goodies back form powdercoat.

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_7786_zpsaooldunj-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_7786_zpsaooldunj.jpg.html)

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-J

nicks67camaro
11-11-2015, 11:55 AM
Wow looks great what undercoating did you use?

all4sho
11-11-2015, 05:50 PM
sweet build

Chad-1stGen
11-11-2015, 09:11 PM
Looks awesome! Is the idea to have this ready for 2016 season?

408maro
11-12-2015, 06:03 AM
I'm in love. Very nice car

Sales-TCI-Eng
11-12-2015, 10:56 AM
Wow looks great what undercoating did you use?

It was just an over the counter spray(can) on liner.


Looks awesome! Is the idea to have this ready for 2016 season?

Yes, we'll hopefully be testing the car before the Thunderhill Optima event. Still lots to do though.

-J

syborg tt
11-12-2015, 02:22 PM
very nice and looking forward to seeing this car in person.

Motown 454
11-12-2015, 07:43 PM
Very Nice! Sweet looking motor.

Sales-TCI-Eng
01-04-2016, 08:52 AM
Progress slowed a little towards the end of the year but we're currently working on wiring and plumbing.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_8523_zpssqsncc6x-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_8523_zpssqsncc6x.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_8524_zpsmnjjssyi-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_8524_zpsmnjjssyi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9482_zpsafuajmtt-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9482_zpsafuajmtt.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9483_zpsajdwt9f1-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9483_zpsajdwt9f1.jpg.html)

-J

mert.celet
01-04-2016, 11:31 PM
And now i regret my front AND rear suspension setup on my 74 Firebird.

Sales-TCI-Eng
01-19-2016, 11:13 AM
Jax Motorsports is taking care of all the wiring for us.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9504_zps2zrwvnv4-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9504_zps2zrwvnv4.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9505_zpskjxx801x-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9505_zpskjxx801x.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9510_zpsmjnbwcv4-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9510_zpsmjnbwcv4.jpg.html)

This Lokar billet Drive-by-wire gas pedal is just badass

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9506_zpsfphrpkly-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9506_zpsfphrpkly.jpg.html)

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Driver's seat and steering cloumn are mounted.....Seating position feels good

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9509_zpsdir6ntw6-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9509_zpsdir6ntw6.jpg.html)



A little cage porn

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/01/IMG_9511_zpsrpwcqw58-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9511_zpsrpwcqw58.jpg.html)

-J

syborg tt
01-19-2016, 12:12 PM
Looks like there are doing a really nice job.

Hotrod6731
01-20-2016, 02:33 PM
any chance we can buy the front splitter assembly?

Paybackcamaro
01-22-2016, 06:25 AM
This build is awesome lol I can't wait to see it hit the autocross!!!

Sales-TCI-Eng
01-27-2016, 09:16 AM
any chance we can buy the front splitter assembly?

A few of us here have tried to convince Ed/Sal to reproduce it for resale but it's not going to happen. If it makes the let down any easier it would have been crazy expensive, probably around $2K.

-J

kevin_L
01-27-2016, 11:24 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/07/IMG_4851_zpspp3feneb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_4851_zpspp3feneb.jpg.html)
You should tell him a respirator works better with the filters on. :lmao:

Car is looking great!

Sales-TCI-Eng
02-03-2016, 02:58 PM
American Racing VF483 18x11 on all four corners.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/IMG_9522_zpskdasan7m-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9522_zpskdasan7m.jpg.html)

The dash is starting to come together. I requested USB power outputs for the cameras and they delivered.

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Getting ready to mount the Optima Battery
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-J

Bugzilla
02-03-2016, 04:38 PM
Such a beautiful car! You guys do some awesome work. Wish this stuff was around when I had my 70 Camaro. Looks like Jack did a nice job with the wiring like normal. I will have to tell him good job next time he comes in! Keep up the good work and get that thing done! Hopefully I can see you guys running that thing around the Auto Club Speedway soon.

I just noticed exactly where your shop is. I must have passed by it 1000 times. I got my head ported by your neighbors at Direct Motion. Small world.

Sales-TCI-Eng
02-05-2016, 11:12 AM
Such a beautiful car! You guys do some awesome work. Wish this stuff was around when I had my 70 Camaro. Looks like Jack did a nice job with the wiring like normal. I will have to tell him good job next time he comes in! Keep up the good work and get that thing done! Hopefully I can see you guys running that thing around the Auto Club Speedway soon.

I just noticed exactly where your shop is. I must have passed by it 1000 times. I got my head ported by your neighbors at Direct Motion. Small world.


Been over there many times hanging out with Saul (RIP). The Mission Critical dyno is gone but there is a new one next door so I still get to hear the sweet sounds and smells of big HP V8's sitting at my desk.

Bugzilla
02-05-2016, 11:59 AM
RIP Saul for sure. He was a great guy. I saw him the day before the accident. Been dealing with him for years. Glenda is doing a good job running the shop now and keeping things going. Ya there dyno is gone now. That's cause it is over here now! I am going to have to swing by one of these days to check out some of the cars over there.

You guys offer corner balancing services? Sorry to hijack the thread!

Josh@Ridetech
02-05-2016, 12:09 PM
Looking really good, guys!

MTZ28
02-05-2016, 02:43 PM
I really like what you guys are doing. Your dash bar incorporated into the dash assembly has just solved some of my future problems. Is the dash sheet metal or aluminum? I might copy you guys, hope you don't mind. I probably missed this, what brand is the steering column? I assume flaming river? I love the brushed finish.

Sales-TCI-Eng
02-09-2016, 01:43 PM
I really like what you guys are doing. Your dash bar incorporated into the dash assembly has just solved some of my future problems. Is the dash sheet metal or aluminum? I might copy you guys, hope you don't mind. I probably missed this, what brand is the steering column? I assume flaming river? I love the brushed finish.

It's an Ididit column with Borgeson u-joints. The dash panels are aluminum


RIP Saul for sure. He was a great guy. I saw him the day before the accident. Been dealing with him for years. Glenda is doing a good job running the shop now and keeping things going. Ya there dyno is gone now. That's cause it is over here now! I am going to have to swing by one of these days to check out some of the cars over there.

You guys offer corner balancing services? Sorry to hijack the thread!

Trade some dyno time for scaling time maybe?


We dropped the car off at Magnaflow yesterday to have them finish the exhaust. The car is finally on its rollers too. Falken 615K's 315/30/18's on all 4 corners

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/IMG_9604_zpsafa4ts6q-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9604_zpsafa4ts6q.jpg.html)

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We also started plumbing the oil system thanks to CBM (Custom Built Motors) & Bonaco

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/IMG_9559_zpsflqjdleb-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_9559_zpsflqjdleb.jpg.html)

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Oh & we scaled the car on Saturday............sum bish is lighter than we thought......gonna have to run the GTL class

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-01-2016, 08:56 AM
We've been making progress on the build the last few months. All the fuel & brake lines have been routed. The polycarbonate windows are installed. We're on a deadline now to make sure the car is ready for the Super Chevy Handling Challenge at the end of the month. We leave for Louisville tomorrow so we tried to get the car ready to go to Ron Mangus(upholstery). Last week it spent some time at Westech getting tuned and even worked out a few electrical bugs.



https://youtu.be/IAcWB_0QZcg

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Bob in St. Louis
08-01-2016, 09:16 AM
How can that dude not smile when he's doing that?

Bugzilla
08-01-2016, 09:12 PM
O ya. That thing is going to run good. Cant wait to see it beat the competition at the Super Chevy event! Wish i could join

DJW32
08-04-2016, 10:19 AM
J,
What power steering pump and rack are you using in this project?

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-18-2016, 08:53 AM
J,
What power steering pump and rack are you using in this project?


It's a Billet Specialties front drive which I believe uses the factory LS pump. The rack is off a mid 80's Thundrerbird.

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-18-2016, 09:18 AM
Project RedDawn has finally seen its first track day. The original plan was to shake it down at Adams Motorsports Park last Friday and make any final adjustments before hitting the high banks at Auto Club Speedway on Saturday. The plan quickly fell apart for Friday night testing so we took Evan's Little Sweetie to Adams instead. That meant that the maiden voyage for the Camaro was going to be 150+ mph thrash session. The car performed flawlessly with the only issues being related to me and getting Harry's Laptimer to function properly (seems to be a common theme lately). Anyways, Sal played it a little safe in some of the faster areas(turn 1 & 2) but he was confident the car could easily outperform his abilities. It was very balanced and showed no signs of understeer. We're excited to get this car & driver pushed to the limits. FYI: Out of 9 full laps driven the quickest lap of the day was a low 1:57. Watching the video and seeing how much speed was scrubbed off in turn 1 & 2 we are confident the car will go much quicker.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Xx9Zrd71E

DJW32
08-19-2016, 10:59 AM
It's a Billet Specialties front drive which I believe uses the factory LS pump. The rack is off a mid 80's Thundrerbird.

I should have asked if this is the same rack used in the 67-69 kit.

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-19-2016, 12:09 PM
I should have asked if this is the same rack used in the 67-69 kit.

Yes, it's the same as the 1st Gen rack.

-J

DJW32
08-20-2016, 07:06 AM
J,
Thanks.

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-22-2016, 08:39 AM
We're a week away from the Super Chevy Handling Challenge but we're trying to get some paint on the car anyway. The same guys that painted our Mustang (Danny's Paint Shop) are working overtime to get this thing finished in time.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/08/IMG_7582_zpszngybjnc-1.jpeg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_7582_zpszngybjnc.jpeg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/08/IMG_1665_zpslixfjcgl-1.jpeg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_1665_zpslixfjcgl.jpeg.html)

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
08-29-2016, 09:58 AM
Less than 24 hours until the Handling Challenge and the car is one solid color again. Ed put in work over the weekend while Sal, Evan and I were in Pleasanton.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/08/12974_zpsfvjhzxut-1.jpeg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/12974_zpsfvjhzxut.jpeg.html)

-J

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-01-2016, 12:43 PM
I'm still editing videos from the Super Chevy Muscle Car Challenge but here are some pics of project RedDawn.


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2472_zpsfm7utemi-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2472_zpsfm7utemi.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2470_zpskeltmkat-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2470_zpskeltmkat.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2510_zpsqi9tce0e-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2510_zpsqi9tce0e.jpg.html)

I had a chance to ride in Rupp's Chevelle Wagon during the parade laps.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2519_zps1kfzxban-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2519_zps1kfzxban.jpg.html)

There are a few cars missing from this photo. CPP's silver 2nd Gen Camaro, Red Chevelle, Speedtech's '69 Camaro, the other Z06 and the baseline car

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2540_zpskq9ry89y-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2540_zpskq9ry89y.jpg.html)

Here is the scoreboard. I believe we finished in 6th place but I haven't seen official numbers yet. We were very excited to see Tim Lee's Camaro place 1st in the 100 Yard Dash. That car has our 4-Link and Custom IFS.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2552_zpslzv3hf0c-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2552_zpslzv3hf0c.jpg.html)

Last thing to do was the photo shoot at the T.E.N. headquarters in Santa Ana.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2557_zpstdknmmvw-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2557_zpstdknmmvw.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2560_zpsxrovzvwn-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2560_zpsxrovzvwn.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/09/IMG_2564_zpsrtncdg0a-1.jpg (http://s981.photobucket.com/user/TotalCostInvolved/media/Camaro%201971/IMG_2564_zpsrtncdg0a.jpg.html)

-J

Bob in St. Louis
09-01-2016, 12:47 PM
That's awesome. I love that car.

Zoomin
09-01-2016, 01:28 PM
Wow, looks like a rough crowd! I bet that was a blast.

Centerforce
09-01-2016, 05:11 PM
Wow this is a spectacular build! Your custom font bumper/splitter has to be one of our favorites!

no_go nico
09-01-2016, 05:56 PM
cool! cool! cool! I have your pro-touring IFS installed on my 66' Chevy II - mating it with the TA next week! can't wait.

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-28-2016, 12:38 PM
A couple more track events for #ProjectRedDawn

NMCA Autocross - Sal had his hands full with all this power and a 140 degree track surface.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=775z4JPwXfQ


Sal also ran the Extreme Speed event with Redline Time Attack and picked up nearly 5 seconds from the Super Chevy event lap times.


https://youtu.be/6LT4SPNDBEQ

Bugzilla
09-28-2016, 01:03 PM
That is awesome! Glad to see it on the track tearing up some tires. What times were you running on the Auto-x course? Looks like it was the same course that I ran that weekend. Hopefully I get to see you guys at the next event!

Sales-TCI-Eng
09-28-2016, 01:21 PM
That is awesome! Glad to see it on the track tearing up some tires. What times were you running on the Auto-x course? Looks like it was the same course that I ran that weekend. Hopefully I get to see you guys at the next event!

Same course, same weekend. His best on Sunday running it counter clockwise was a 49.7. He's normally within a tenth or 3 of Chad but not this time, Chad ran away with it on Sunday. We'll be at the next one with Evan's Nova and Ed's Mustang. Sal's sitting that event out so RedDawn won't be there.

-J

Bugzilla
09-28-2016, 01:41 PM
Sweet. Hope to see you guys out there next time. Will you yourself be there? My best time on Sunday was a 48.6. I will be sure to check out the Nova and Mustang this time! Sad I missed the Camaro though. Its my favorite!

camaros down under
09-30-2016, 04:48 PM
Very nice car!
What bonnet is that? (sorry if you've mentioned it already).
And also, I want to go black rubber around the windows rather than chrome, so where do I buy the rubber kit from?
Thanks

Sales-TCI-Eng
10-03-2016, 07:36 AM
Sweet. Hope to see you guys out there next time. Will you yourself be there? My best time on Sunday was a 48.6. I will be sure to check out the Nova and Mustang this time! Sad I missed the Camaro though. Its my favorite!

I will be there for sure on Saturday with Evan and the Nova.


Very nice car!
What bonnet is that? (sorry if you've mentioned it already).
And also, I want to go black rubber around the windows rather than chrome, so where do I buy the rubber kit from?
Thanks

It is from Carbon Kustoms. The window trim is factory stainless just powdercoated matte black.

-J

camaros down under
10-04-2016, 01:57 AM
A few people have mentioned Carbon Kustoms :)
And perhaps I shouldn't have just sold my window trim...
Oh well

Sales-TCI-Eng
10-14-2016, 01:42 PM
Sal's getting more and more confident going thru the chicane at ACS.

USCA Fontana - all 3 performance aspects


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtwdxGLf89c&feature=youtu.be

-J

DJW32
01-03-2017, 04:07 PM
Is red dawn running the factory sway bar? With 315's upfront, I assume something needed to get modified.

Sales-TCI-Eng
01-03-2017, 04:30 PM
Is red dawn running the factory sway bar? With 315's upfront, I assume something needed to get modified.


It has a standard production bar. The inner panels had to be modified to fit it though.

-J

DJW32
04-07-2017, 03:10 PM
What kind of seats are you guys running in red dawn?

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-11-2017, 07:05 AM
What kind of seats are you guys running in red dawn?

They are Scat Pro Cars but the tops have been modified(shortened).

DJW32
04-11-2017, 08:24 AM
The sportsman pro?

Bugzilla
04-11-2017, 12:33 PM
I am pretty sure they are the same ones I am running. They are the Pro Sports 1790 fixed back. Possibly could be the Xtreme 1700s though. Cant really find a good picture.

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-12-2017, 07:31 AM
I am pretty sure they are the same ones I am running. They are the Pro Sports 1790 fixed back. Possibly could be the Xtreme 1700s though. Cant really find a good picture.

I believe they are the Extremes because the sides aren't very tall like the Pro Sports.

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-24-2018, 01:22 PM
It's been a while since an update. We've been making small changes to the car trying to maximize performance. After a recent dyno session we realized the airbox we built was heat soaking real bad. So we set out to redesign it. We also knew the air filter we had used was too small so we figured both needed to be upgraded. We made a call over to our buddy Mike at K&N/Spectre for some mock up parts. He just happened to have a C6Z air filter for us to mess around with.

The filter fit perfectly down low on our front clip crossmember. The new air box will be fed by the same fresh air ducts as before but now the box won't be in direct airflow behind the radiator.

https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2018/04/24/20180212_094050.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/ZH1vZ)

We also picked up a Nick Williams 102mm throttle body to better match that MSD intake manfiold.

https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2018/04/24/20180209_100531.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/ZHJgd)

We keep having this same issue with the shifter boot/seal. This one lasted about 300 miles. We're changing shifters this time around. Silver Sport Transmission to the rescue.

https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2018/04/24/20180423_130120.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/ZHR7o)

We also made the switch to BFG's recently. We've been running 315's all the way around on 18x11 American Racing wheels. We ordered another set of rear wheels from American Racing only 18x12's this time. So now we'll have 315's up front and 335's out back for LSfest.

https://i.hmjimg.com/images/2018/04/24/20180423_130054.md.jpg (https://www.hostmyjunk.com/image/ZHlei)

We finally got to watch RedDawn get driven at a high level with the help of Chad 'Norris' Ryker. https://totalcostinvolved.com/chad-ryker-gets-behind-wheel-project-reddawn-lays-fastest-lap-day/

Bob in St. Louis
04-24-2018, 03:38 PM
Wicked car, great video. But the mic on a GoPro sounds like trash. :(

ULTM8Z
04-25-2018, 06:43 AM
I’d love to see some details on your airbox set up. Not sure what you mean by "heat soaking"... but here are my thoughts on that subject...

I’m running a Gen 1 SBC with a Miniram intake using GM TPI style electronics and have done a tremendous amount of experimentation on relocated MAT sensor and cold air tube, with really good results.

I relocated the battery to the trunk and then cut a 4” hole into the sheet metal where the battery used to reside. I then routed a 4” composite air tube to that hole and mounted an air filter directly under it. I then added a bunch of heat shielding (sheet metal pieces) around the air filter to further isolate it from engine compartment.

I also then relocated the MAT sensor to directly on the snout of the air filter (it’s a K&N conical filter). Some may argue that’s not the true air temp at the inlet to the throttle body, but I’m not sure I agree. With a composite air tube, the air doesn’t have enough time to pick up heat from the engine compartment particularly when the composite material can’t conduct heat into the air stream quickly enough. So by having the MAT sensor closer to the throttle body, I’d argue you’re actually artificially heat soaking the sensor via hot air from outside the tube.

Any rate, all of this testing and redesign had the effect of limiting the air temperature (as read by the ECM) to essentially never go above ~15°C over ambient (which only occurs in stop and go traffic or sitting at a fast food drive-thru or stuff like that). Compare that to before my mods when the air temp would easily get to 50-75° over ambient. When driving at speed, it’s reading dead-on at ambient temperature… ambient as reported by the digital read-out on my rear view mirror with a sensor mounted directly under the front bumper.

So after having spent a ton of time datalogging and re-tuning the MAT tables, I have extremely consistent WOT AFR’s and fuel trims across a wide range of inlet/ambient temperature variation. Unfortunately I don’t have access to a dyno for that, so it’s all by “seat of the pants” feel, WB O2 feedback for WOT, and monitoring the fuel trim in non-WOT. But the seat of the pants feel improvement was very significant and noticeable in terms of not feeling like I’m losing power any longer when the underhood temps get very hot.

Nevertheless, I’ve always played around with the idea of building an actual “box” with an air inlet coming out the front of the air dam. I’ve just never been able to come up with a design that I thought was good. My curiosity has been whether I'm getting a reduction in inlet air pressure because of the filter location. Although, monitoring the MAP sensor doesn't seem to indicate I'm suffering in that regard since at WOT on the freeway (where I'd expect to see that kind of negative effect), the MAP is reporting 99.5-100 kPa (essentially atmospheric pressure). If I was getting a large pressure drop due to filter placement or air tube design, I'd expect to never get to that manifold pressure. But I’m still curious to see what you guys have cooked up.

Bob in St. Louis
04-25-2018, 07:03 AM
I’d love to see some details on your airbox set up. Not sure what you mean by "heat soaking"... but here are my thoughts on that subject...

From the net: "The term, “heat soak” refers to a raise in the engine coolant system temperature and pressure after the engine is turned off."

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-25-2018, 07:19 AM
Wicked car, great video. But the mic on a GoPro sounds like trash. :(

Sal agrees, I just ordered a wind sock that will help tone it down. The mic is mounted under the rear bumper so it's pretty much a direct shot from the exhaust tips. Think I might move it up above the tank.


I’d love to see some details on your airbox set up. Not sure what you mean by "heat soaking"... but here are my thoughts on that subject...

I’m running a Gen 1 SBC with a Miniram intake using GM TPI style electronics and have done a tremendous amount of experimentation on relocated MAT sensor and cold air tube, with really good results.

I relocated the battery to the trunk and then cut a 4” hole into the sheet metal where the battery used to reside. I then routed a 4” composite air tube to that hole and mounted an air filter directly under it. I then added a bunch of heat shielding (sheet metal pieces) around the air filter to further isolate it from engine compartment.

I also then relocated the MAT sensor to directly on the snout of the air filter (it’s a K&N conical filter). Some may argue that’s not the true air temp at the inlet to the throttle body, but I’m not sure I agree. With a composite air tube, the air doesn’t have enough time to pick up heat from the engine compartment particularly when the composite material can’t conduct heat into the air stream quickly enough. So by having the MAT sensor closer to the throttle body, I’d argue you’re actually artificially heat soaking the sensor via hot air from outside the tube.

Any rate, all of this testing and redesign had the effect of limiting the air temperature (as read by the ECM) to essentially never go above ~15°C over ambient (which only occurs in stop and go traffic or sitting at a fast food drive-thru or stuff like that). Compare that to before my mods when the air temp would easily get to 50-75° over ambient. When driving at speed, it’s reading dead-on at ambient temperature… ambient as reported by the digital read-out on my rear view mirror with a sensor mounted directly under the front bumper.

So after having spent a ton of time datalogging and re-tuning the MAT tables, I have extremely consistent WOT AFR’s and fuel trims across a wide range of inlet temperature variation. Unfortunately I don’t have access to a dyno for that, so it’s all by “seat of the pants” feel, WB O2 feedback for WOT, and monitoring the fuel trim in non-WOT. But the seat of the pants feel improvement was very significant and noticeable in terms of not feeling like I’m losing power any longer when the underhood temps get very hot.

Nevertheless, I’ve always played around with the idea of building an actual “box” with an air inlet coming out the front of the air dam. I’ve just never been able to come up with a design that I thought was good. My curiosity has been whether I'm getting a reduction in inlet air pressure because of the filter location. Although, monitoring the MAP sensor doesn't seem to indicate I'm suffering in that regard since at WOT on the freeway (where I'd expect to see that kind of negative effect), the MAP is reporting 99.5-100 kPa (essentially atmospheric pressure). If I was getting a large pressure drop due to filter placement or air tube design, I'd expect to never get to that manifold pressure. But I’m still curious to see what you guys have cooked up.

There are a ton of pics of the old airbox in this thread. It is fed by dual 3" grill inlets but the filter is superheating the air coming in. Plus, the air filter was just too small. It was basically a panel filter for a stock 5.3 pickup airbox. IAT's were 35-40 degrees over ambient with the hood open and a 5' fan blowing on the front end at WOT. The airbox itself was 50+ over ambient with a laser temp gun (filter sitting inside of it). The only time IAT's settle in even within 20 degrees of ambient is at 80 mph cruising down the highway and you go WOT.

As of right now the new C6Z filter is just sitting out in the open.

ULTM8Z
04-25-2018, 07:34 AM
Ok, I see the box in front of the radiator. Is it made out of metal? Are the tubes supplying the box made out of metal?

Where is your MAT sensor located?

ULTM8Z
04-25-2018, 07:47 AM
From the net: "The term, “heat soak” refers to a raise in the engine coolant system temperature and pressure after the engine is turned off."

Understood.

But in terms of air temperature, the only things that can really “soak” are the air tube and the intake manifold (and the MAT sensor itself if it’s in the engine compartment). LS engines have composite manifolds, so the “heat soak” issue would be far less pronounced than say on my aluminum Miniram. So for the short period of time where my manifold temp is coming down in temperature from a “soak”, the MAT sensor reading being so far upstream may not reflect the actual air temp going into the cylinder. But, again, that’s a temporary condition and evidently not detectable by me in the driver seat.

But once the engine starts, the air stream should be taking heat off the internal surfaces of the tube and manifold pretty quickly, and with the lousy thermal conductivity of plastic LS manifold, it shouldn’t be able to conduct external heat through material fast enough to continue heating up the air stream in any significant way.

All I’m saying is the engine will respond to whatever it’s seeing from the MAT sensor, so the sensor location is very important in terms of taking into consideration all the things I mentioned above and having the ECM respond to reality. If the sensor is reading artificially high, the ECM will lean out the mixture unnecessarily and cost power.

The car is bad-a$$ BTW!!

Bob in St. Louis
04-25-2018, 08:12 AM
Sal agrees, I just ordered a wind sock that will help tone it down. The mic is mounted under the rear bumper so it's pretty much a direct shot from the exhaust tips. Think I might move it up above the tank.
.
I don't believe it's a placement thing. It's just that GoPro mics don't sound "right' for loud things.
I've done some shooting videos with mine, and it sounds like I'm shooting underwater. They don't like loud noises, car exhaust included. Your cel phone audio would have a MUCH higher audio quality.
Granted, it's real hard to strap your cel phone to the bumper of a car. haha

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-25-2018, 09:21 AM
Understood.

But in terms of air temperature, the only things that can really “soak” are the air tube and the intake manifold (and the MAT sensor itself if it’s in the engine compartment). LS engines have composite manifolds, so the “heat soak” issue would be far less pronounced than say on my aluminum Miniram. So for the short period of time where my manifold temp is coming down in temperature from a “soak”, the MAT sensor reading being so far upstream may not reflect the actual air temp going into the cylinder. But, again, that’s a temporary condition and evidently not detectable by me in the driver seat.

But once the engine starts, the air stream should be taking heat off the internal surfaces of the tube and manifold pretty quickly, and with the lousy thermal conductivity of plastic LS manifold, it shouldn’t be able to conduct external heat through material fast enough to continue heating up the air stream in any significant way.

All I’m saying is the engine will respond to whatever it’s seeing from the MAT sensor, so the sensor location is very important in terms of taking into consideration all the things I mentioned above and having the ECM respond to reality. If the sensor is reading artificially high, the ECM will lean out the mixture unnecessarily and cost power.

The car is bad-a$$ BTW!!


IAT's are measured via the maf sensor on the LS7 & LS3. The sensor was about 7" in front of the throttle body. The air filter sits inside of a superheated box directly behind the radiator so it is absolutely heat soaked. It is basically acting as an interheater, opposite of an intercooler. We would have liked to move the filter element farther down the intake tract, away from the radiator but there isn't enough room.


I don't believe it's a placement thing. It's just that GoPro mics don't sound "right' for loud things.
I've done some shooting videos with mine, and it sounds like I'm shooting underwater. They don't like loud noises, car exhaust included. Your cel phone audio would have a MUCH higher audio quality.
Granted, it's real hard to strap your cel phone to the bumper of a car. haha

Agreed, the internal gopro mics suck. Especially in the wind. We are using a standalone mic remote mounted. You can actually see the cables reflection on the passenger side view.

ULTM8Z
04-25-2018, 09:52 AM
Oh your MAT sensor is in the MAF sensor... yeah that would be a problem yeah...

Sales-TCI-Eng
04-25-2018, 10:28 AM
Oh your MAT sensor is in the MAF sensor... yeah that would be a problem yeah...

It is not a full circle plastic housing maf like the earlier 24x ECU's used originally. It is a stand alone inserted maf cartridge with a separate map sensor. All LS3's and LS7's use it.

The maf sensor is in roughly the same location now and IAT's will drop to ambient at WOT unlike before. Even without an actual airbox getting clean/cool air from the grill yet. We'll have it on the dyno next week to confirm it's making more power.