Raybestos 1971 Camaro "RS" by Schwartz Performance [Archive]

Schwartz Performance

01-20-2014, 08:39 PM

I'm sure all of you remember the 1964 GTO that Hotrod Chassis & Cycle built a few years ago for Raybestos as a giveaway car...

Well this year we have the honor of Schwartz-ifying a 1971 Camaro to be raffled off this year!

Introducing, the Raybestos/Schwartz 1971 Camaro "RS"

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As far as the specs, there are still some details being worked out as of today.. But we're working hard on the car to get it ready for summer events!

FOR MORE INFORMATION GO TO: http://www.schwartzperformance.com/1971-camaro-rs-raybestos/

What we started with was an Arizona car, dented up more than we had hoped... The floors were fine, but every other panel needs replacement because it was hit on the passenger side pretty hard. Can you tell? ;)

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Disassembly:

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wfo guy

01-21-2014, 08:03 PM

Ouch! What a surprise.

captainofiron

01-22-2014, 08:58 AM

I found the same thing on my XJ Jeep.

I was out on a trail and a chunk of bondo just fell off the rear quarter. not a fun discovery

Schwartz Performance

01-23-2014, 07:36 PM

Just a bare body shell ready for blasting:

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Anybody need a good 2nd gen subframe?

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Filling unused firewall holes & smoothing the firewall:

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Schwartz Performance

01-23-2014, 07:46 PM

After the media blast, we discovered that the right side of the car had been smashed--- worse than we hoped. :(

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We knew the quarters needed replacement before blasting, which is why they weren't blasted 100%. However.. we didn't expect the roof to need a lot of work. We decided to replace the outer skin (The pictures don't show just how bad the roof was!) :
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Aaaaand the trunk floor:
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Schwartz Performance

01-23-2014, 08:01 PM

"I live my life a quarter panel at a time" -1971 Camaro

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Ready for minitubs!

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We mounted the chassis to the car to help prevent the car from twisting during the minitub process. (Pics of chassis later!!!)

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The original rear frame rails needed to be cut into a little toward the rear of the car to allow plenty of clearance for the soon-to-come Forgeline Wheels and 335/30/18 BFG Rival tires.

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We cut the DSE Deep Tubs and added roughly an inch to their original width, as they didn't quite fit with 335/30/18's.

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aps63

01-23-2014, 09:04 PM

Looks awesome so far, keep those updates coming.

72BBSwinger

01-23-2014, 09:41 PM

I thought Camaroes came from the factory with a can of bondo in the trunk under the spare tire?? Sorry I had too...

Martin71RS

01-24-2014, 06:13 AM

wow, lots of bodywork needed..... can't wait to see the frame :-) but why is it called RS since it isn't one?

Guyt699

01-24-2014, 06:39 AM

"I live my life a quarter panel at a time" -1971 Camaro

That's funny!

Guyt699

01-24-2014, 06:41 AM

wow, lots of bodywork needed..... can't wait to see the frame :-) but why is it called RS since it isn't one?

I think it is for Raybestos and Schwartz.

Schwartz Performance

01-24-2014, 10:27 AM

wow, lots of bodywork needed..... can't wait to see the frame :-) but why is it called RS since it isn't one?

It's mainly because of the split bumper look, and yes Raybestos Schwartz was influential ;)

-Dale

Reckn8

01-24-2014, 02:36 PM

Jeff, that's sinful what the old body shops used to do! I wish I could have found you a nice rust free AZ car. They are here, you just have to be lucky sometimes. I found my 70 SS behind a house about 5-6 years ago and am just starting on it.

CampbellshotrodsAZ

01-24-2014, 02:49 PM

Just need to buy the conversion kit, and make it a proper Rally Sport. I believe Classic Industries even has a kit now. :)

TonyHuntimer

01-24-2014, 07:27 PM

After the media blast, we discovered that the right side of the car had been smashed--- worse than we hoped. :(

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Ouch! Bond-NO! ;)

Cool build and a perfect shop to do it! Looking forward to following along!

Tony Huntimer
TestCarDatabase

Schwartz Performance

01-25-2014, 07:15 AM

Just need to buy the conversion kit, and make it a proper Rally Sport. I believe Classic Industries even has a kit now. :)
Yeah we all didn't really care for the endura nose piece on the RS and wanted it to look a little more plain and clean in that respect. The other Rally Sport touch is the paint job. Anyone remember this scheme from the mid 70's Camaro RS?

We actually got this car from AZ believe it or not! There was no rust on the floor or roof, just a bit on the quarter panels and trunk pan. We didn't think it had been crunched so bad though...!

-Dale

Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 02:08 PM

Ready for a roof skin replacement:

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Filling in the marker lights:

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Quarters & roof nearing completion:

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Ready for a trunk floor... Hopefully the LAST of the panel replacements!

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bergers59

02-11-2014, 05:06 PM

if you're selling the steering wheel let me know! also very nice build, subscribed. :cool:

Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 05:56 PM

if you're selling the steering wheel let me know! also very nice build, subscribed. :cool:

We may not be selling the wheel unless you offer us a good deal ;)
But hey we're giving the rest of the car away, did you not get that memo??? :)

HellPhish89

02-11-2014, 06:01 PM

so.. are ya going to use the Raybestos NASCAR brakes like the Roush that was built?

Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 07:16 PM

Trunk pan installed:

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Tanks Inc. supplied us a tank: (We're a dealer for them, very nice stuff)

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Raised the rear seat floor pans up a bit to better hide the mufflers

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Mocking up a steering shaft to the IDIDIT tilt column
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Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 07:21 PM

Mocking up the BeCool radiator - this will have a pair of SPAL fans attached, too.

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And of course we're using II Much Fabrication fuel / diff vents!

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Our black anodized battery tray for Optima's mounted in the trunk:

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What is this doo-hickey? It's a hydraulic parking brake. Push the brake pedal down, push this knob down, and it keeps pressure on the rear calipers!

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Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 07:27 PM

so.. are ya going to use the Raybestos NASCAR brakes like the Roush that was built?

Nope this build is more for the DIY, instead of $20,000 brakes or whatever they were ;)

We're using Raybestos Corvette rotors (C6 front rotors, used at all 4 corners) and heavy duty 2-piston aluminum calipers at all 4. Raybestos has a new line of rotors ("R300") & pads ("Element3") they're pushing.

Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 07:31 PM

Moser hooked us up with their 9 inch housing, with 35 spline axles, and their nodular case with a Wavetrac differential. It should hold up to the beating!!
Also in the picture are the RideTech single-adjustable coilovers:

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Schwartz Performance

02-11-2014, 07:33 PM

Here's a shot of the front brakes. These rotors are just for mock up, we'll be getting a set of Raybestos R300 rotors which have a vented design.

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aps63

02-11-2014, 10:22 PM

Very cool build guy's. Is the hydraulic parking brake a Raybestos unit?

HellPhish89

02-11-2014, 11:24 PM

Nope this build is more for the DIY, instead of $20,000 brakes or whatever they were ;)

We're using Raybestos Corvette rotors (C6 front rotors, used at all 4 corners) and heavy duty 2-piston aluminum calipers at all 4. Raybestos has a new line of rotors ("R300") & pads ("Element3") they're pushing.

NASCAR doesnt use carbon/carbon or carbon/ceramic brakes :razz:

i think they only use a 13" rotor too with 6 piston monoblock calipers depending on track (interesting note: the teams use the same or very similar brake setups for their short track and road course cars). nothin too special. :)

looks quite robust either way Schwartz. interesting shock mount setup too =)

Schwartz Performance

02-12-2014, 05:18 AM

NASCAR doesnt use carbon/carbon or carbon/ceramic brakes :razz:

i think they only use a 13" rotor too with 6 piston monoblock calipers depending on track (interesting note: the teams use the same or very similar brake setups for their short track and road course cars). nothin too special. :)

looks quite robust either way Schwartz. interesting shock mount setup too =)

Regardless they were quite expensive. I thought they had said 20k maybe it was something like 8k lol.

Schwartz Performance

02-12-2014, 05:19 AM

Very cool build guy's. Is the hydraulic parking brake a Raybestos unit?

Nope it's made by Jamar.

parsonsj

02-12-2014, 06:45 AM

Love it. I gotta get me a 2nd gen customer.

CliffS

02-12-2014, 07:25 AM

[QUOTE=Schwartz Performance;1050270]Trunk pan installed:

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Tanks Inc. supplied us a tank: (We're a dealer for them, very nice stuff)

Nice tank indeed!
What pump did the tank came with. I thought they only carry Walbro pumps?

Schwartz Performance

02-12-2014, 07:43 AM

Nice tank indeed!
What pump did the tank came with. I thought they only carry Walbro pumps?

Aeromotive is on board with this project too. Not sure if you knew this but Aeromotive uses Tanks Inc. tanks for their EFI tank systems. So they can supply a pump instead of the Walbro, that will fit into this tank. We used a Stealth 340 here.

CliffS

02-12-2014, 07:49 AM

Aeromotive is on board with this project too. Not sure if you knew this but Aeromotive uses Tanks Inc. tanks for their EFI tank systems. So they can supply a pump instead of the Walbro, that will fit into this tank. We used a Stealth 340 here.

I am aware that Tank's developed the gas tank and that Aeromotive is on board.
If I order a complete Aeromotive tank with 340 pump and billet hanger the price doubles comparing to Tank's gas tank with Walbro pump.
Is it possible to order the 340 pump/billet hanger with Tank's too?
Thank you.

Schwartz Performance

02-12-2014, 08:31 AM

I am aware that Tank's developed the gas tank and that Aeromotive is on board.
If I order a complete Aeromotive tank with 340 pump and billet hanger the price doubles comparing to Tank's gas tank with Walbro pump.
Is it possible to order the 340 pump/billet hanger with Tank's too?
Thank you.

I am not sure if Tanks will stock that.. I am direct with Aeromotive so I will see if they'll sell it separately.

-Dale

bergers59

02-12-2014, 09:00 AM

what kind of good deal? :naughty:
I saw that, where are you raffling off the car?

Schwartz Performance

02-12-2014, 09:51 AM

what kind of good deal? :naughty:
I saw that, where are you raffling off the car?

Shoot me an offer! We like to have old wheels around here for mock up and to steer cars around, but if you reeeaaallllyyy want it I suppose we could part with it ;)

The contest starts May 1st thru August. It's not really given away anywhere but the winner will be announced at SEMA this year.

CliffS

02-12-2014, 09:58 AM

I am not sure if Tanks will stock that.. I am direct with Aeromotive so I will see if they'll sell it separately.

-Dale

I really appriciate If you could check with automotive. The pump alone is available through several suppliers but the billet hanger and top is no where to be found.

bergers59

02-13-2014, 11:18 PM

PM sent!

FLYNAVY53

02-15-2014, 02:07 AM

BigJoe29

02-15-2014, 09:25 AM

very nice, can't wait to see where this goes.

Schwartz Performance

02-15-2014, 09:44 AM

Any chance I could get some additional information on the parking brake set up? I went to Jamar's web site, and it specifically said "not for use as a parking brake". Im not trying to question your build, Im just very curious as Ive been looking for a hydraulic parking brake to run on the 1972 Suburban/LS swap Im building as a daily driver.

Thanks, and great build!!

It's to be used as a parking brake but not as an emergency brake. As long as your brakes aren't leaking you're fine :)
Jeff (Schwartz) used one the Ultima he built, it worked great. To deactivate, you just push the pedal down.

-Dale

tmadden

02-15-2014, 10:59 AM

I need a couple of hundred raffle tickets!!!!

Schwartz Performance

03-16-2014, 08:36 PM

Stainless Works helped us out on 3" stainless tubing, V-band flanges, and a pair of their chambered turbo mufflers.
www.stainlessworks.net

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V-bands welded to the collectors

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Phil tacking the exhaust up before it's purge welded

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Creative routing of the exhaust

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You like our cardboard driveshaft don't you?

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Close-up of the X-pipe

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The completed system ready for ceramic coating:

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CampbellshotrodsAZ

06-02-2014, 02:43 PM

Schwartz Performance

06-02-2014, 02:46 PM

The Raybestos Sweepstakes has begun!

To enter, please visit www.RaybestosGarage.com . Tell all your friends!

Schwartz Performance

06-03-2014, 06:23 AM

This is crazy. I revisited this thread after I saw the sweepstakes thread. You even replied that you bought it from AZ, but it didn't even click. I had looked at this car in August of last year when he had it for a way too high $6k. It was between this car, or the Mustang in my signature. The condition of the body, as you are now aware of, is why we declined to build the car. Looks like it's better than you guys ended up with it!

Pic I took when we looked at it.

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Haha, nice! Yeah we were able to beat him down a bit.. But part of the issue was we had a close friend go look at it for us.. And it was worse than expected when the truck & trailer dropped it off at our shop.

But hey it's like saving an abandoned, malnourished puppy from a thunderstorm... Except it costs a lot more.... lol.

-Dale

Schwartz Performance

06-30-2014, 06:28 PM

After most of the test-fit was complete we tore it all back down to get some bodywork done underneath & on the firewall to prepare for paint.

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Painted underside & firewall

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The reason we only painted the underside was so we could get the chassis mounted & panels fit, so The Paint Spot didn't have to do much or mask the chassis off. This made the paint & assembly job move along a little quicker & more efficiently.

Schwartz Performance

06-30-2014, 06:40 PM

The Paint Spot in Addison, IL completed the final bodywork & paint job on the car, as well as the Rally Sport inspired graphics. The paint was supplied by DeBoer aka Valspar.

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The Formula style hood looks good on Camaro's too :) - Awesome custom hood by VFN Fiberglass.

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Can't wait to see how these Forgeline RB3C's look

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Test fitting the 1000hp capable BeCool radiator

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Dynamat laid on the floor & firewall, and the Vintage Air Gen IV Magnum unit installed.

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Test fit of the rear wheels. These are amazing... And the 14" Corvette spec Raybestos rotors look good too.

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Chassis to firewall braces installed & American Powertrain hydraulics kit coming together.

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