Photo shop help needed

[Bluecab]

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Hey there photoshop guys!
Can anybody help me with this? I'm looking to fill the whole insert in the tail with custom made taillights and relocate the plate to a recess in the bumper where the backup lights are now.
I will also do the bumper body color...

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated as I have no photo shop on my computer and no skills even if I did. Just looking to see if the idea I've been playing with would look any good.

Thanks,

Bluecab

[67rally]

Hey there photoshop guys!
Can anybody help me with this? I'm looking to fill the whole insert in the tail with custom made taillights and relocate the plate to a recess in the bumper where the backup lights are now.
I will also do the bumper body color...

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated as I have no photo shop on my computer and no skills even if I did. Just looking to see if the idea I've been playing with would look any good.

Thanks,

Bluecab

Here's a quickie to get you started. What did you have in mind for the tail lights? I just made your current style fill the void. If you can find a pic of a car that has a style you like, I can go from there. But you need to have an idea of what you're looking for.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torostern_zps391eb639-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torostern_zps391eb639.jpg.html)

I'll do the body color bumper once I know where you're going with the tail light panel.

[Bluecab]

Wow! that was quick! That is the look I was thinking of. I will have to fab the taillight panel out of red plexi laminated with some type of diffuser. Will probably use a series of led strip lights behind it, so it might have a more uniform look to it.
Thanks so much. way easier than cutting up a bunch of taillights!

[Slick68]

I wonder if you could modify the taillight setup from a late model Charger to fit in there. May not work, but just thinking in words.

[67rally]

Wow! that was quick! That is the look I was thinking of. I will have to fab the taillight panel out of red plexi laminated with some type of diffuser. Will probably use a series of led strip lights behind it, so it might have a more uniform look to it.
Thanks so much. way easier than cutting up a bunch of taillights!

No problem. I did the bumper in white and cleaned up some minor stuff on this one:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torosternbump_zpsabbf15d1-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torosternbump_zpsabbf15d1.jpg.html)

[Bluecab]

Looks great! Thanks again.
Anybody have suggestions as to where the backup lights should go?
Slik68, I looked at lots of factory lights and none were quite the right size, but have been doing research on how to heat mold plexi. My project is not there yet. In fact, I spent a good few hours yesterday welding patch panels into the floor.
Not my car in the photo, just a good shot I found floating on the internet.

[67rally]

Looks great! Thanks again.
Anybody have suggestions as to where the backup lights should go?
Slik68, I looked at lots of factory lights and none were quite the right size, but have been doing research on how to heat mold plexi. My project is not there yet. In fact, I spent a good few hours yesterday welding patch panels into the floor.
Not my car in the photo, just a good shot I found floating on the internet.

I stole these lights from a 67/68 Camaro RS. 3 different positions. I think I like #2 (close to the license plate and down low) the best.

#1
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torosternreverse1_zps81d601c4-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torosternreverse1_zps81d601c4.jpg.html)

#2
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torosternreverse2_zps38311b57-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torosternreverse2_zps38311b57.jpg.html)

#3
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torosternreverse3_zps6975c17a-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torosternreverse3_zps6975c17a.jpg.html)

[srh3trinity]

I like 2. Nice idea and cool photoshop skills.

[jlcustomz]

Here's my quick thought (possibly contribution) here. At a visual educated guess, 79 or so TA tail lights are a good possibility. There are likely a few aftermarket choices , I think digitalis has a sequential setup also.https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=959&q=77+trans+am+tail+lights&oq=77+trans+am+tail+lights&gs_l=img.12...3138.18643.0.20967.23.8.0.15.15.0.77 .599.8.8.0....0...1ac.1.32.img..10.13.686.MWnoD5Jr VAU Did a bit of tail light research myself recently.

A thought for back up lights which I may do on my project is to have them semi hidden underneath. Auto parts stores have approximately 2" x4" universal halogen lights which could be mounted somewhere further underneath the rear & the extra output would make up for the mounting location. May need a relay for the extra amperage needed.

67rally, you said you weren't a graphic artist, you're about to make a liar out of yourself here. Nice work , AGAIN.

[67rally]

67rally, you said you weren't a graphic artist, you're about to make a liar out of yourself here. Nice work , AGAIN.

Nope, I'm just good at cut & paste. An artist would be able to create those images, not just copy them.

Good call on those TA tail lights, those look like the right shape.

[67rally]

Just found this pic of a 1980 Trans Am, full width tail lights:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/871776152_6d74092053-1.jpg

[67rally]

A super quick 'chop:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torosternreverseTA2_zps68d7d76d-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torosternreverseTA2_zps68d7d76d.jpg.html)

[Bluecab]

That looks great! Thanks so much. Now I need to figure out how to fit/fabricate them.
I'm looking for a front-on shot of a '66; I'm thinking about finding some really narrow headlights that can go in the space where the flip up lights are now. The original ones were vacuum operated, but came dis-asembled. I'm not that interested in using the old ones, I would rather put lights under plexi covers.

Thanks again for the photoshop magic!

[67rally]

That looks great! Thanks so much. Now I need to figure out how to fit/fabricate them.
I'm looking for a front-on shot of a '66; I'm thinking about finding some really narrow headlights that can go in the space where the flip up lights are now. The original ones were vacuum operated, but came dis-asembled. I'm not that interested in using the old ones, I would rather put lights under plexi covers.

Thanks again for the photoshop magic!

I'm kind of partial to hidden headlights, but I converted mine to electronically actuated ones. I wonder if you could adapt an electric conversion setup for an old Corvetted set up? I used a company called Retro Electro: http://retro-electro.net/products.html

But post up a pic of '66 that you like, and some headlights that you'd use, and lets see what we can come up with.

[Bluecab]

Funny, I found this shot of the "Mannix" car. Look at the tail, it must have crept into my subconscious..88240

[jlcustomz]

If you decide to make headlights, some of the aftermarket projectors would be easy to mount. Made my own headlights for my 2010 Camaro nose el camino project by heating acrylic in the wife's oven & bending around wood forms. New headlights in 09' were over $800 each, so that was inspiration enough for me to make em.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/DSC00422-1.jpg (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/jlcustomz1/media/DSC00422.jpg.html)

[Bluecab]

Agreed that the flip-ups look the best, I was thinking of leaving the original lids on and putting lights behind the grill..
Maybe the linear actuators are the way to go; a few of the guys over on the TOA group have done that.
What I do want to end up with is bright headlights high and low, drls, and driving lights.
Most of the photos I can find have the front bumper pushed in, this one is no exception, the slots below the parking lamps should be horizontal
I have thought of leaving the end pontoons chrome and only painting the center section, also I'll be using a 1967 front bumper which has a larger center hole for better airflow to the radiators.
Also thinking about opening up the slots above the light covers for cold air induction.

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[jlcustomz]

Not sure exactly how things are constructed behind your grille, But I like the thought of lights behind the grille, as in phantom grille style. I think a pair of small round lights per side may look best,a pair of rectangulars on your model may look too much like a homedone modification with your model.

slots above the old lids would be an ideal location for good quality cold ram air.

[67rally]

Here are two different looks for you.

Acrylic/plexi:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofrontflush1_zps40bbb32c-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofrontflush1_zps40bbb32c.jpg.html)

Hidden Headlights:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofronthidden_zpsa891e6bd-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofronthidden_zpsa891e6bd.jpg.html)

[67rally]

One more with the hidden headlights behind the grille and the old headlight openings filled and painted.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofronthiddensmooth_zps027746a8-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofronthiddensmooth_zps027746a8.jpg.html)

[jlcustomz]

I like the last one , maybe with a mesh grille in the air openings.

Was just noticing the Mannix car had a raised surround on the bumper in the (NEW) license plate area. They likely did it that way as a bolt on item to avoid welding & rechroming the bumper.

[Bluecab]

I like the last one also. The light assemblies may interfere with opening up the faux intake and making them functional. I'll have to take a good look next time I get out in the shop.

[Bluecab]

'67, can't thank you enough for your help visualizing the ideas.

How are you with paint color changes? I have a wild scheme in mind, but don't know how it would look on the toro...

JL, Yeah, that bumper has a real wart-like quality with the tacked on surround. Definitely not the smoothed out look I want..

[67rally]

'67, can't thank you enough for your help visualizing the ideas.

How are you with paint color changes? I have a wild scheme in mind, but don't know how it would look on the toro...

JL, Yeah, that bumper has a real wart-like quality with the tacked on surround. Definitely not the smoothed out look I want..

No problem. Sometimes it's easier to see something on paper first and decide if you like the look. I consider my photoshop's to be sketches to get you in the ball park. Once you're in there cutting and fabricating, you'll adapt on the fly.

I can do color changes, just let me know what you're looking for. If you have a picture of a car with the color/color scheme you have in mind, post it up. It might not be dead on, but I'll get you close enough. The first color change takes a little longer to mask, but after that, it's a pretty simple thing.

I added some random mesh inserts for those air intakes:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofrontmesh_zps63192881-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofrontmesh_zps63192881.jpg.html)

[67rally]

Apparently I have nothing better to do, so I went back and did some more options.:guilty:

I enlarged the glass to fill the old opening on this one:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofrontflush2_zps714bc9cd-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofrontflush2_zps714bc9cd.jpg.html)

Here I took some early model Corvette style headlights and recessed them in:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofrontcorvette_zpscb492bf2-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofrontcorvette_zpscb492bf2.jpg.html)

And this goes back to the phantom headlights behind the grille, but with the old headlights completely filled and smoothed:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/01/torofrontfilled_zps1f7508a7-1.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/modi_photos/media/torofrontfilled_zps1f7508a7.jpg.html)

[jlcustomz]

I thought about the look of the headlights completely filled, but the stock shape makes too nice of a ram air location.

All it needs now is some Texas bull horns.:scared:

[Bluecab]

Here are a couple of stock side shots:
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And a shot of the crazy paint job I had in my head:

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Here's another:

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The probability that I will ever execute this paint scheme is small as I probably could not shoot it myself, but I would like to see how it would look on the car...

I thank you again for wasting all this time and talent on my Toronado project!

[67rally]

I thought about the look of the headlights completely filled, but the stock shape makes too nice of a ram air location.

Agreed, but I figured I'd post the pic. I wanted to see how it would look, and it's easier than filling them in in real life and then realizing you don't like the look.



All it needs now is some Texas bull horns.:scared:

I can't do that. Well, I could...but I won't.:evil:

[67rally]

Here are a couple of stock side shots:


And a shot of the crazy paint job I had in my head:



The probability that I will ever execute this paint scheme is small as I probably could not shoot it myself, but I would like to see how it would look on the car...

I thank you again for wasting all this time and talent on my Toronado project!


No problem. I'll take a stab at it later today.