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wfo guy
10-16-2013, 06:30 PM
This is a low budget build. I'll post some pics to bring this up to the current status.837728377383774837758377683777
Sales-TCI-Eng
10-17-2013, 08:40 AM
I am starting to grow very fond of the F1's. I can't wait to see where you go with it.
-J
drylegmcrae
10-17-2013, 01:25 PM
my favorite series of ford trucks :) good luck with it
wfo guy
10-17-2013, 04:04 PM
This truck was 2 guys coyote chasing rig. The last known engine in it was a 52 Olds with a 4 speed. That was gone before I ever tried to buy it about 20 years ago. It's a story but the son of the owner decided that he would never do anything with it and decided I was the only dummy out there who could bring it back to life. Everytime something broke on it, they welded it to something else. I had to cut the front end apart to remove it. The cab looked pretty good until I media blasted it and then you could see through it in a few dozen places. I have a stack of tubing and a lot of boxes from No-Limit in the garage. I'm building a frame for it but it will be simple, not ground breaking. I bought a 96 Mustang GT for a donor car. It has to be disassembled before construction can begin. My current plan is to build the chassis, install all the running gear and put it together to drive. After that, it may get blown apart and painted. I haven't made it that far in planning yet. I'll try to post enough pics that it will be worth while to follow.
85coupe50
10-18-2013, 06:14 AM
I have a 1950 F7 that I will be doing some work on in the future. I wish it had the bead and running boards though. Looks like a fun project!
astroracer
10-18-2013, 07:17 AM
I am starting to grow very fond of the F1's. I can't wait to see where you go with it.
-J
I was building a '49 a few years ago that I had put TCI front and rear suspensions in... Never got to finish it. A guy bought it before I could. Wish I would have kept it but he paid what I asked... :)
Mark
Buryingthesun
10-18-2013, 07:53 AM
I love these trucks! I cant wait to see more progress on it!
wfo guy
10-19-2013, 05:33 PM
More boring work today. I blasted the underneath side of the top and did more body work. I fought the waves on the top from one side to the other. It would be nice to have the skill to metal finish everything and have it be great. I don't possess that skill and don't see it happening soon. :)839288392783929
wfo guy
10-20-2013, 03:33 PM
8395983960Today I finished roughing in the body work on the cab. I don't have storage room so this has to go outside. I sprayed black epoxy primer over all the bare areas. The windshield and back glass have been edged in with color. Those of you that recognize the color know what's next. i made a decision about the plan for the truck. It's now the Bullitt truck. That color is the one used on the 2001 and 2008 Bullitts. I'll put gray spoke wheels on it and use that as the theme for this. Life got easier after that decision was made.
Dave B
10-20-2013, 04:50 PM
Sweet! Can't wait to see more!
wfo guy
10-24-2013, 04:30 PM
84156This evening I began the destruction of the donor car.
wfo guy
10-25-2013, 02:23 PM
84173I took a day of vacation to remove parts from the donor car. This is 2/3's of the wiring harness I removed. I had to gut the car to do this.
Dave B
10-25-2013, 06:46 PM
So many Mustangs have to die, for the greater good.
linkstar69
10-26-2013, 03:11 AM
Cool project. Solid cab as a starting point
wfo guy
10-26-2013, 03:37 PM
I spent the day removing more parts from the donor car. If tomorrow is good, I'll have most of the parts removed. This car was untouched in some areas. Disassembly has been a test.
wfo guy
10-27-2013, 05:11 PM
This pic represents completion of the important parts from the donor car. There is very few items left. This was a real pain to do. This project will get better in a heart beat.
wfo guy
10-28-2013, 02:55 PM
The last large part of dissassembly. The lower arm bolts were froze. I'm glad this car is going to the junk yard when this is finished.
wfo guy
10-30-2013, 04:34 PM
I removed the front suspension cradle and the hydro boost. There are no large parts left on the donor. I'm going to do some research to see if the hydro boost is the best approach for me.
rustomatic
10-30-2013, 07:18 PM
That's the best use of an ugly (yet speedy) car! Keep up the good recycling habits!
wfo guy
10-31-2013, 03:21 PM
This arrived today. I bought a 3650 and flywheel and clutch.
wfo guy
11-02-2013, 02:32 PM
Check this out for some humor.84508
MichaelUser
11-03-2013, 11:11 AM
Looking good. Are you going with the Mustang suspension or use a 2006 Crown Vic?
wfo guy
11-03-2013, 02:45 PM
MichaelUser, I'm using No-Limit front and rear. This pic is of the front cross member and the rear end fresh from the vat. The rear needs all the brackets removed before the new can be welded on. I'm changing ratios also.
MichaelUser
11-04-2013, 09:45 AM
Sweet looking. I want to build a F100 with the Crown Vic clip some day.
wfo guy
11-09-2013, 04:17 PM
A few parts arrived this week so I was able to bolt up the flywheel and clutch and install the trans. I made spacers from 4130 for a few places on the frame that need sleeved. Some of the tubing has been cut and is ready for further mods.
wfo guy
11-10-2013, 04:24 PM
I made a little progress today. The first pic is the crossmember for the core support. The next is the mounting area for the rear cab mount. The next is the step down at the front of the chassis. Tomorrow I work on the rear end of the rails.
wfo guy
11-11-2013, 05:59 PM
I got a little bit done today even though I worked most of the day. :) I'm not done with the main rails but I'm gaining. Most of the crossmembers are cut to length. The next time I work on it, it will be ready to look like a chassis.
wfo guy
11-13-2013, 06:43 PM
A few more boring pics. I welded in the last of the gussets on the main rails this evening.
rustomatic
11-13-2013, 09:19 PM
Those rails look burly! Good move with No Limit stuff--I spent a couple hours watching Rob kick most people's butts on Saturday (GoodGuys Pleasanton) in Hellboy. He seems to know what he's doing, and he's a pretty cool guy. Who would have thought Hellboy has a horn?
wfo guy
11-16-2013, 05:00 PM
It's starting to look like I'm building a hot rod here.
wfo guy
11-17-2013, 01:52 PM
Stopping point for the weekend.
SparkyRnD
11-18-2013, 06:48 AM
that's an awesome platform to build up. We've been building a lot of radiators for the F1's lately. Makes me want to get one and build it up after Sabre is finished.
wfo guy
11-28-2013, 04:22 PM
I got a little done today. No more brackets on the housing. No more upper bushing mounts. I'm using the engine mounts from the mustang. This pic is the rough cut beginning.
wfo guy
11-29-2013, 04:36 PM
Rear suspension in but not fully welded.
wfo guy
12-01-2013, 05:19 PM
I have the engine and trans roughed in. It will take a lot of work to use the Mustang cradle and be good and acceptable. I checked tire clearance without a rotor. I'm good so far.
Dave B
12-01-2013, 05:36 PM
You work fast! I haven't even touched my car in two weeks now...
wfo guy
12-08-2013, 02:47 PM
The first part of the week had descent weather. I removed all the running board braces from the original frame. Then, it decided to go to single digit temps. I put the braces in the vat today and cleaned them just a little. They will have to be media blasted before they can be used. Because it has turned into winter, my progress will slow to just about a standstill.
wfo guy
12-24-2013, 08:03 PM
I spent the afternoon working on the rear end. Numerous complications. The last one was finding that the left side of the tracloc was done. I'll order clutches on thursday. I didn't expect them to be real good but they weren't useable. I'll have a completely rebuilt rear when done. One less item on the list.
chevette
12-25-2013, 10:15 AM
Well done! And I agree with Dave, you work fast. Going to be a good lookin' truck.
Spork82
12-25-2013, 03:12 PM
This is one seriously cool build!
Learning as you go? or have you been fabricating for a while?
wfo guy
12-25-2013, 03:44 PM
Spork82, I'm an old guy who has done many projects. Today, the rear end was finished as far as I can until the tracloc parts arrive. I finished welding most of the engine mount. I have a few days of vacation so tomorrow I will finish the trans mount and mount the fuel tank. I can't upload pics today for some reason. I'll update as soon as I can.
wfo guy
12-25-2013, 05:54 PM
87626876278762887629Pics from today
wfo guy
12-26-2013, 03:34 PM
Lots of fun today. Trans mount done. Double k-member in. Cab positioned with rear mounts attached and ready to fab front mounts. One shot is the opening for the steering shaft.
wfo guy
12-27-2013, 04:32 PM
I did cab mounts today.
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wfo guy
12-28-2013, 12:03 PM
I'm using the mustang tank and pump. I haven't got the straps on or filler neck modified yet. I have 3" hanging under the rear crossmember.
wfo guy
12-28-2013, 03:48 PM
For those of us that are not Autocad or Pro-E users, after installing everything today, I realized I wouldn't have enough driveshaft clearance if the suspension bottomed out. The new part will need to be capped top and bottom.
69SSLS1
12-28-2013, 04:52 PM
This is a cool build!
shizzy
12-28-2013, 05:09 PM
looks great! the farther I get in to mine, the more I wish I had just started with a custom frame instead of working around the S10 chassis.
69SSLS1
12-29-2013, 08:02 AM
You are an artist! Budget builds to me are so much more interesting than people throwing six figures into their cars. Keep up the good work!
wfo guy
12-31-2013, 03:14 PM
I finished the fuel tank straps today. I used the original Mustang straps. I fabbed up two parts per side to bolt the straps on. I used the rubber protector on the bottom. It's about to return to winter tomorrow so I'm done for a while.
craigs73
01-01-2014, 10:15 PM
looking good...... did you end up using the engine mount setup from the mustang?
wfo guy
01-02-2014, 05:32 PM
craigs73, yes, I used the part that I removed from the Mustang engine cradle.
Lackluster update. the trac-loc kit arrived today and I finished the rear end this evening. It's ready for paint and the brakes to be installed. One item on the list is finished. :)
wfo guy
01-04-2014, 12:47 PM
It was warm enough this morning that I turned on the heater in the garage and got a few things done. The pics are of the running board supports mounted but not blasted. The rear is finished and full of oil. It will get painted the same color as the frame. The 90 degree adapter necessary to hook up an oil filter. We have a cold wave upon us so I'm done for awhile again.
wfo guy
01-08-2014, 05:33 PM
I ordered a driveshaft from Shaftmasters based upon good reviews I read. It arrived in short order. I have removed it from the shipping tube and glanced at it. It has nice welds and it came painted black. it'll be a while before I can put the rear back in and make sure everything is as it should be. It may be warm enough this weekend that I can finish welding the chassis. There's not much left on it. C notches over the rear and installing some plates on open areas that are notched out for various items, some welding underneath. It's going to have to warm up before I can paint it. :)
wfo guy
01-12-2014, 10:19 AM
Short of bed mounts, the welding on the chassis is completed. C notches, plating, underneath welding. Ready to move on to the next list.
wfo guy
01-18-2014, 11:52 AM
In keeping with the Bullitt theme, I needed gray spoke wheels. I've been looking for months. The wheel god finally smiled on me. :) These are late model Mustang, 17x8.
wfo guy
02-15-2014, 04:07 PM
Minor update. It has warned up enough that I worked in the shop today. The frame for the bed has been welded up. A few weeks ago I cut all the metal and put it in the vat.
wfo guy
02-17-2014, 03:33 PM
This next item is something I needed many projects ago but didn't take the time to do it. I've looked over some threads before I did this. This is a test to see if the riser is tall enough. I'm going to make some adjustable clamps to go with this. I'll spend way too much time added extras but this is way better than what I've been doing.
wfo guy
02-23-2014, 02:56 PM
Put the cab back on to check how somethings were going to fit. Then I cut bed mounts and welded them on. Then took everything back apart so my wife's car can go back in. Front bed frame mounts will have 2 bolts, rear will have 1. One shot shows the fuel line clearance under the box frame. The bed mounts are all notched for the box frame to sit on them.
Dave B
02-23-2014, 03:28 PM
I'm glad it's warmed up, this is one of my favorite weekly updates!
wfo guy
03-15-2014, 01:49 PM
Back on the job. Self explanatory.
Dave B
03-15-2014, 06:26 PM
Lots of fun, filling holes.
wfo guy
03-16-2014, 11:25 AM
So far, I filled or patched 71 places. The remainder will have to wait until the column, hydroboost, clutch and throttle mounts are located and finished. The section of the mustang firewall that has all of those has been trimmed and is ready whenever I figure out where it needs to be.
wfo guy
03-30-2014, 10:10 AM
This is a really small update. The last 2 weekends have been poor weather so I didn't accomplish anything in the shop. Yesterday I added some risers to my trailer so the cab sits solidly instead of having blocks stuck under it. The roll around cart I use for cabs got redone so now the wheels are 4'x 4'. It was 2 x 2. Yesterday I sanded and painted the silver wheels. I used Duplicolor wheel paint. It appears to be regular enamel in a can. It went on good and the color will be fine for my plan. I don't expect it to be long lived.
wfo guy
04-06-2014, 02:03 PM
Another small update. The weather hasn't been conducive to me working alot. I have to move alot of items to put the cab on the chassis so this is a weekend only deal for a while.
Mr Grant 666
04-06-2014, 03:49 PM
I love your use of the donor car. Most people don't use that many of the parts.
ONDSKAN
04-06-2014, 07:09 PM
looking good...real good!
wfo guy
04-10-2014, 02:06 PM
There isn't a tire shop in my town that I trust with my stuff. Pic is self explanatory.
wfo guy
04-13-2014, 03:05 PM
Over at the slow progress shop, I got 1 more thing crossed off the list today. Most of yesterday was a yard day getting ready for spring. One of the compromises in putting the engine back as far as I did was lack of clearance for a steering u-joint on the r-p. I used 1.5" 6061 alum shaft to make offset bushings to change the angle of the unit where it's mounted to the crossmember. I did a little measuring and found that a 10 degree angle would give lots of clearance for the u-joint and the oil filter outlet housing. I angle drilled the holes for the 5/8" bolts and then angle cut the ends. After making sure the angles were correct, I used a reciprocating saw to cut the bushings in half. They have a slight compression on the flanges to hold the steering unit snug when the fasteners are tight. The steering shaft will clear everything now to the column. I tried to get a pic but it was too dark to show the clearance.
wfo guy
04-19-2014, 02:18 PM
Yesterday, the 2004 crown vic exhaust manifolds I purchased arrived. The outlets are at a different angle than the Mustangs. It will make running exhaust easier. I got started mounting the Mustang column and connecting the steering shaft. The pics are of the adapter I machined to connect the dissimilar shafts and the clearance I have. The heat riser tube is loose and about an inch away from the shaft. The pic of the Mustang floor plate is the part that will be adapted to the floor panel to fill the hole.
wfo guy
04-20-2014, 01:07 PM
Made a plate to cover the factory steering - pedal hole. I adapted the Mustang lower column bearing support to it. That is welded to the plate. If the weather will cooperate this week, after work some evening I'll bring the cab in and weld the plate to the floor. I replaced 2 of the column braces I made yesterday. I didn't like what I had done. Today's are better but I'd like a better idea still. I may wait until the wiring and ac plumbing is run to see how much space I'll have left.
wfo guy
04-21-2014, 03:46 PM
For those of you that think I've sunk to a new level of show and tell, here's the latest story. I purchased 2004 crown vic exhaust manifolds because they both have belled flanges and the angles of the outlets are going to be way easier to run pipes to. The used parts were missing 2 studs. I see that there is 1 part number listed with Dorman for almost all 4.6 2 valve engines. I order a set and the next morning go pick them up at the parts store. When I get home and look things over, I see that the new ones are 12 mm. The crown vics are 10mm. The Mustang and early crown vics are all 10mm. That's all I could find to buy short of OEM. So, the pic is the manifold drilled and tapped. Just one more thing. :)
Dave B
04-21-2014, 04:37 PM
I like show n tell, gives me motovation !
RobNoLimit
04-21-2014, 05:09 PM
You Sir, are a true Hot Rodder. I like it, no big deal, just find solutions. Nice going.
wfo guy
04-26-2014, 05:55 PM
Thanks for the compliments, guys.
I worked on header pipes today. Had to make or modify most everything from the header back. I removed the downstream O2 sensor bungs from the original pipes and made a mandrel to hold them in the lathe. They're ready to be welded in. The Mustang trans crossmember is non-symmetrical. I don't think I'll be able to match the location of the mufflers because of that. I'm not going to do tail pipes until the rear is in and it's sitting on the ground at ride height.
wfo guy
04-27-2014, 07:43 AM
I went to bed last night unhappy with where the mufflers were. Now that I'm old and senile, the idea god doesn't always know my address. This morning it was apparent that I would have to recut the notches in the crossmember and move the mufflers rearward. I have enough room to run tailpipes over or in front of the rear axle. I'm feeling better now. :)
wfo guy
04-27-2014, 10:32 AM
O2 bungs in. The wind is blowing like crazy and we're about to have a brown out!
wfo guy
05-03-2014, 03:27 PM
Underfloor bracing today. One part on the top will have to be removed for trans removal, hence on the top. I used the square tube dies I have. I'm not real pleased with how it works but I haven't bought anything better yet. I believe it's more rigid than before I cut it for clearance.
wfo guy
05-04-2014, 05:04 PM
I only got a few things done today. Not from lack of trying.One pic is the driveshaft loop. The other is an under the tunnel brace. I tried to make the tunnel out of 16 gauge and one piece. I have a pan brake but alot of what I tried to do wasn't going to work well. I then tried splitting it into 3 parts. The first was simple and finished. I redid the rear most part twice and still didn't like it. Back to the drawing board later.
wfo guy
05-08-2014, 03:17 PM
I now have a complete 48 front end. It has rust and dents but this is the front I wanted. Just more work. :)
Dave B
05-08-2014, 05:23 PM
I just came in from the garage, that's not rust! :)
wfo guy
05-11-2014, 01:33 PM
A little bit of progress at the expense of a lot of time.
olason
05-11-2014, 02:00 PM
you make my work that I am doing on my Datsun for floor replacement look easy. I wish I wasn't living in an apt, so bad when I check project updates.
wfo guy
05-17-2014, 01:33 PM
I'm taking a break. Little bit of progress.
wfo guy
05-18-2014, 02:47 PM
I have the din slot cut. The Mustang cluster is roughed in. I filled one more hole in the floor while I was waiting for my brain to start this morning.
wfo guy
05-24-2014, 03:32 PM
In the words of Vince Gill: this is the last last time I should have to flip the chassis. When I ran the exhaust, I had to widen the frame cut outs to fit how I wanted to run things. Today was the day to finish that.
Gojeep
05-24-2014, 11:53 PM
Some nice progress there.
wfo guy
05-25-2014, 01:20 PM
The "I can do that better" syndrome arrived again. I haven't been happy with part of the engine cradle since day 1. I left it in the back of my mind for later. Today was later. Still not as good as I wanted but as good as I have ideas for at this time. It's boxed all the way around next to the side rails now.
wfo guy
05-26-2014, 04:51 PM
I got a good start on straightening the fuel lines before my tubing bender broke. It'll be a while before that task gets completed. :)
Gojeep
05-26-2014, 08:32 PM
How and what are you using to straighten the lines with?
wfo guy
05-27-2014, 06:41 PM
I was using one of my benders to reverse the 90's. The 45's were easy but the 90's were what broke the bender. This probably won't look like new tubing when I give up. I haven't decided how much time I'll spend on this.
Gojeep
05-27-2014, 09:22 PM
These sort of things will do the gentle bends but not the hard factory ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Ka0C7TFgc
These look handy and could make them yourself.
http://www.surrauto.com/documents/TS14316w.pdf
wfo guy
06-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Really lackluster update. I wasted hours trying to straighten the 3 fuel lines from the Mustang. I made the decision today to order a roll of 5/16 and 1/4 line and adapt to the Ford connections and start over. It only costs another $50 to go first class. :) I filled the last 2 big holes in the firewall.
wfo guy
06-07-2014, 05:49 PM
Working on fuel lines. Pics tomorrow. I'm really slow for some reason.
wfo guy
06-08-2014, 08:30 AM
The fuel lines are roughed in. I ordered some plastic clamps that will allow me to stack the large line on top of the 2 smaller lines running down the side of the frame. I'm not real happy with this but it still is my intention to use as much Mustang stuff as possible. I'm about to get irritated enough to spend another $500 on tools, though. I'd sure like to have the Mastercool flaring tool a friend mentioned and a real tubing straightener. I realize that brake and fuel lines are hidden but that isn't what this is about. :)
Crestronwizard
06-08-2014, 02:51 PM
I love this build! Glad I came across it. Subscribed
Gojeep
06-08-2014, 06:58 PM
What is the 'real' tube straightener that you are thinking of? I'm planning on using as much from my donor as well.
wfo guy
06-08-2014, 07:12 PM
Gojeep, I am interested in the one that you mentioned that has the 4 sided rollers. I found that on my original lines, everywhere there was a 90 degree bend that it stretched the tube enough that it wouldn't straighten very well. Then when I tried to rebend, it went to pot instantly. I ended up using a block of wood drilled to straighten the new rolls. It's certainly not good enough for a show car but it was better than the hand method. The question I have is will the 4 sided one work on steel. On their website it shows copper in it. I may buy some patio door rollers and build something simple. I have a roll of 3/16 brake line to see if it's a good idea or not. :)
Gojeep
06-09-2014, 08:10 PM
They are a good idea even if you have a new roll that has come coiled.
wfo guy
06-12-2014, 03:14 PM
Really poor update. New fuel line clamps.
wfo guy
06-21-2014, 12:55 PM
I was in LA last weekend for the 50th LA Roadster show. Back to work now. I removed all the parts from the Mustang doors to try and retrofit the hardware to the 51. I also removed the rear window regulators to see if I could adapt them for power windows. The latch pic has the attaching bracket for the body stuck in place. It will be a while before I measure the doors to see if this is a good idea or not.
ahodgy91
06-21-2014, 05:43 PM
Sir your fab skills are incredible
wfo guy
06-22-2014, 02:52 PM
Thank you, ahodgy91. The stack of chrome-moly will become some sort of a rollbar or simple cage. The battery hold-down is for a group 75 side post battery. I may work on the top some more. I'm thinking about what I want it to look like. Because of the crossmember, the dzus tab is not centered so I offset the other one a like distance.
wfo guy
07-04-2014, 07:56 AM
This is what I'm doing this weekend. No fun at all.
wfo guy
07-04-2014, 03:45 PM
I really pegged the funmeter today! The chassis is ready for paint.
wfo guy
07-05-2014, 03:35 PM
I finished painting the chassis and rear end. I would never say it was good but it won't rust now. :) It was 105 in the shop with 38% humidity. I looked like I went for a dip in a pool when I was finished.
Gojeep
07-05-2014, 11:37 PM
Looks like it has come up well. Like the colour too.
Dave B
07-06-2014, 10:29 AM
Awesome!
wfo guy
07-06-2014, 01:53 PM
Parts baking in my solar paint booth. :)
wfo guy
07-11-2014, 02:59 PM
Friday night teaser.
wfo guy
07-12-2014, 03:07 PM
Saturday night at the really old, really slow garage!
Dave B
07-12-2014, 03:53 PM
Wow, nothing like getting it on it's wheels, this is the second project I've been following, that the wheels hit the ground today...I better get my act together.
Derek@ModernSpeed
07-12-2014, 05:06 PM
Thank you sir for the build thread. I'm a Ford fanatic, and your home built hot rod is inspirational to all hot rodders. Keep up the good work.
Gojeep
07-13-2014, 01:14 AM
Where about will you put the bump stops in the rear as doesn't seem to be any room for them in the frame notches? Or do the coil overs have them built in?
wfo guy
07-13-2014, 04:29 AM
Gojeep, the coilover has them.
Gojeep
07-13-2014, 06:41 PM
Gojeep, the coilover has them.
Good to know. Thanks. :)
wfo guy
07-14-2014, 09:12 AM
Here's the completed front end minus plumbing and alignment. Soon there after, everything went to pot. I'll explain later.
wfo guy
07-20-2014, 09:37 AM
I'm working on plumbing. I didn't have enough parts to complete anything." You'll get it on tuesday". No one to blame but myself. The pic is of the mustang rear brake line. Rear calipers overhauled and installed. Numerous small items completed not worthy of mentioning. Next weekend is the Salina show. It will be a while for more progress.
wfo guy
07-22-2014, 07:10 PM
Rear brake lines started. I'm not satisfied, I don't know what I'll change yet.
wfo guy
07-23-2014, 05:55 PM
I'm more satisfied with this end. I'll clamp it to the frame after the cab is on and it's connected to the hydroboost.
Gojeep
07-23-2014, 08:10 PM
https://www.pro-touring.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=100011&stc=1&d=1406085049
I think if the lines was brought up vertical a bit first, from where it comes out from under the cross member on the left side, and then bent again so it could then run parallel all the way along might be what needs to be done to satisfy you? Needs more supporting clips too.
Motown 454
07-24-2014, 03:43 PM
I just checked out your whole thread. Nice work!
wfo guy
07-28-2014, 06:26 PM
Thank you for all the comments. Rear lines changed. If I do more, I have to buy more tubing. :) I know they're not real good but I haven't decided if I'll do more or not.
wfo guy
08-02-2014, 03:29 PM
I'm staying home for a few weekends. There's lots to do whether I stay or leave. I made some clamps for the brake lines and the fuel lines today. I'll try to do better tomorrow. :)
lucky13firebird
08-02-2014, 05:15 PM
brother you are a hotrodder. good work, keep it up.
wfo guy
08-03-2014, 03:17 PM
Did a lot of work today with little results. Removed the fenders from the bed I'm not using. Put the engine in the frame and put it outside. The cab will come in and more work on it is next.
Gojeep
08-03-2014, 07:00 PM
On to the next stage. :)
wfo guy
08-09-2014, 06:04 PM
I did some small stuff today. The front end is aligned. The starter is on and oil is in the trans. Driveshaft and exhaust pipes are on. Front hangers are roughed in. The heat riser on the left manifold was a metric thread that I couldn't adapt to. I threaded it to 1/2" pipe and have a bushing to weld to the flare adapter. I have alot of mismatched body parts so I'm going to assemble everything before painting it. If time runs out, it won't get painted until next spring.
wfo guy
08-10-2014, 01:09 PM
Little more today. The rear fenders fresh from the engine vat. The bed frame was sanded and primered. It's painted the same gray as the chassis.
wfo guy
08-16-2014, 01:08 PM
I shot rust encapsulator on the floor of the cab where I'm not planning on painting. I welded up the short seams at the side of the top and the cowl.
wfo guy
08-16-2014, 05:50 PM
I blasted the firewall and dash to remove the rust from sitting outside the last couple of months.
wfo guy
08-17-2014, 11:14 AM
Firewall is painted to match the frame. The new to me box. It's way better than the one I have.
crustysack
08-18-2014, 03:38 PM
Well done sir, this truck is going to be really nice. Keep it up
wfo guy
08-24-2014, 10:38 AM
This update will really put you to sleep. :) I had to make new plates to bolt the door hinges to that fit in the cab. I removed as much of the original tar from the seams that I could without wasting huge amounts of time and put sealer back in. Break is almost over. :)
wfo guy
08-24-2014, 02:53 PM
Trans tunnel blasted and epoxy primed. All the bare areas of the inside of the cab are blasted and primed.
Dave B
08-24-2014, 04:01 PM
I wait for these updates every weekend. Hopefully soon, I'll have some time to get back at my project.
brawls43
08-25-2014, 07:24 AM
Looking great! Love this project!
Crestronwizard
08-25-2014, 01:43 PM
Great progress!!
wfo guy
08-25-2014, 03:44 PM
Thanks for the comments, guys. I'll try to have a really good update at the end of next weekend. :)
wfo guy
08-30-2014, 04:11 PM
Another small update. Several hours spent drilling and removing hinge pins. The pic is of the body side bolted to the new plates made last week. The others are what I think is the last rust repair on the doors and cab. It took about 20 minutes to find the new hinge pins that I put up last fall. :)
wfo guy
08-31-2014, 03:20 PM
Welding some cracks in the doors and doing some body work.
wfo guy
09-01-2014, 04:01 PM
Really lackluster update. I spent most of the day doing bondo work. I removed the floor and braces from the new box and gave it a bath.
wfo guy
09-02-2014, 06:46 PM
Don't get excited. The first time the doors have been on the cab since being removed a year ago. They're not adjusted or anything good. It was easier to store them this way. :)
Mangohick
09-03-2014, 05:19 AM
Nice work!
wfo guy
09-07-2014, 02:46 PM
I went out this morning thinking I'd get the body work on the cab finished up and primered. I tried to adjust the door hinges but nothing good was happening. I measured the other cab I have and found that the door posts were a 1/4" farther apart than this one. Out comes the portapower. In a little bit I had nice door gaps. My memory isn't good enough to remember how the gaps looked when these trucks weren't very old but this has to be way better than it was. I did some more bondo work but aren't far enough along to primer the whole cab.
Dave B
09-07-2014, 03:34 PM
Nice!
wfo guy
09-08-2014, 03:26 PM
This will really excite you! I welded up the holes where the spotlight was. :)
wfo guy
09-13-2014, 03:00 PM
The first Mustang door latch conversion is in use. Lots of work to finish. The other door will be way quicker. :)
http://youtu.be/mO2FT6QzZB4
The first pic is the mess I started with.
protouring70
09-13-2014, 07:43 PM
I had a truck similar to yours. How are you filling the gap at the top of the door on the inside. Mine had a huge gap
wfo guy
09-14-2014, 07:04 AM
Protouring70, I haven't begun to think about that yet. None of the door gaps are equal anywhere. I haven't decided if windlace is the answer or to spend a huge amount of time to correct something that never was very good.
protouring70
09-14-2014, 12:18 PM
Yeah. .....they didn't have much on tolerances back then. Good luck
wfo guy
09-14-2014, 02:48 PM
Repeat of yesterday on the other side. :)
wfo guy
09-20-2014, 11:18 AM
Outside door handle.
http://youtu.be/BbVnjzqFClY
wfo guy
09-21-2014, 01:45 PM
These pics are of the rod that it took to make the key lock on the driver's door work. The other is the location of the lock. Both doors have door latches and handles. Only the drivers side has an outside lock. I was going to use the factory locks but the space in the door is so small I have lost my drive for that.
wfo guy
09-24-2014, 05:33 PM
If you don't understand this, do a search before you ask questions. :)
wfo guy
09-27-2014, 04:01 PM
Just so you don't think I'm sitting on the beach drinking umbrella drinks and surrounded by young girls in bikinis!
wfo guy
09-28-2014, 01:37 PM
1st round of high build primer on the cab.
blade
09-30-2014, 05:19 PM
Nice work! This is going to be a sweet truck when you are done!
wfo guy
10-05-2014, 12:45 PM
2nd application of high build primer on the cab.
Auto Rod Technologies
10-05-2014, 05:49 PM
What kind of fuel line clamps are you using that you can stack?? I am trying to find something clean for a project I have in the works..
The chassis is looking really good as well!!
wfo guy
10-06-2014, 03:26 PM
Autorod, my memory isn't this best but I believe those came from McMaster.com. They are plastic and only come in a few sizes.
wfo guy
10-11-2014, 02:29 PM
I sanded the doors for the 2nd time last night. It was apparent that I needed to do some more body work. That was addressed this morning. The doors are primed again and the cab has been sanded and is almost ready for more primer.
wfo guy
10-12-2014, 10:51 AM
How about some tinted primer to liven things up?
wfo guy
10-15-2014, 04:05 PM
I just finished blocking the doors again. I think it will take 2 more times before there good enough. Tomorrow I'll have more primer and I can hit the repeat button. Sorry for being so boring!
driveit
10-16-2014, 08:38 AM
It has been a long time since I have done any body work, but it does contain a lot of repeats. Nice wor!
wfo guy
10-16-2014, 03:17 PM
Don't read this while driving. You might fall asleep and hurt yourself. :)
What kind of person is excited to get ac in October? Primered doors, again. Ho hum.
driveit
10-16-2014, 04:43 PM
I would be. Never had AC on mine. lol...
wfo guy
10-18-2014, 03:41 PM
What did I do today? I experimented a little bit. I found a small area of damage that I had missed so that was addressed. The glove box door was blasted before painting. I found that the hinge needed work , also.
wfo guy
10-19-2014, 03:02 PM
The doors have been primed for the last time. The top of the cab will take one more time. The back of the cab I'm not so sure of. I ran out of time and energy. It's ready to be masked and primed the next time I can go to the shop.
wfo guy
10-20-2014, 04:52 PM
One more application of primer on the cab. This shot shows it in it's storage place in the garage.
wfo guy
10-26-2014, 02:29 PM
Another terribly boring update. The doors are ready to be sealed and painted. The back of the cab was blocked again and primed, hopefully for the last time.
ArtosDracon
10-26-2014, 03:11 PM
That's a good blue!
injcted
10-27-2014, 11:19 AM
Cool Project! Great Work!!!!
wfo guy
10-27-2014, 03:56 PM
Thanks for all the comments. I'm sorry I'm not faster with progress!
wfo guy
10-30-2014, 04:14 PM
There's no way I could color sand the dash and buff it without error. I sanded it and 1 more coat of clear will be applied. Hopefully in the proper manner. :)
wfo guy
10-31-2014, 02:48 PM
I ordered Nu-Relic window regulators and NewPort wiper motor today. None of my Mustang conversions were going well. :)
wfo guy
11-01-2014, 02:40 PM
This is the last block sand before paint. The weather is turning to winter so painting is a thing of the past.
wfo guy
11-02-2014, 01:33 PM
The only real good thing is it's done for now. Bugs, windy causing dirt, new paint gun to get used to, etc. Lots of difficulties. The pics are in the make shift booth ready to spray. Gray epoxy primer. The final color for now. Pure white. I was very fortunate to get 1 more fairly warm day to get this knocked out.
Dave B
11-02-2014, 01:40 PM
Looks awesome, as usual!
brawls43
11-03-2014, 11:20 AM
Love white trucks and cars!
wfo guy
11-03-2014, 04:25 PM
Most people enjoy new parts. Here is a box with rubber parts, the front bed panel and the rear sill for the box. The other pic shows that I did clean up some mess. :)
Motown 454
11-04-2014, 06:24 AM
Nice progress, it looks good.
wfo guy
11-05-2014, 03:06 PM
This morning I tried to sand out the excrement in the paint and buff. It didn't work. More sanding and spraying to come. Window regulators arrived.
Gojeep
11-05-2014, 07:18 PM
That would suck having to redo because of that.
wfo guy
11-07-2014, 04:38 PM
The wiper motor arrived yesterday. This evening I was able to wet sand most of the cab outside before it got dark. It won't be warm enough to do that again for a while. I hope the project god smiles on me this weekend!
wfo guy
11-08-2014, 04:15 PM
I've had quite a day. For a change, I got more done than I expected. I finished sanding all the parts. I had to reshoot the white to cover up the excrement in the paint. Then I shot 2 coats of clear over it. My new friend, the fly came to visit. He didn't stay long but it's in the last coat and will be easy to remove. It's not great but it's better than it was. :)
Jetfixr320
11-09-2014, 05:10 AM
Looking good!
Bugs seem to be attracted to paint products. LOL Thankfully we have sand paper and buffing products!
wfo guy
11-09-2014, 02:26 PM
I media blasted the outside of the rear fenders and epoxy primed them today. They are one big bent piece! It's about to turn into winter so things will slow down about to a standstill.
wfo guy
11-17-2014, 03:16 PM
I looked for months for good Mustang seats with no success. I bought a pair of 2013 Doge Dart seats. These are black with a few small stains but no damage. The pic is poor in color and size.
wfo guy
11-22-2014, 06:45 PM
I installed the door handles and the key lock today. I put epoxy primer on the original running boards so they could be stored outside. Then I color sanded and buffed. It's not good but it's better than it was.
wfo guy
11-23-2014, 03:32 PM
Cowl vent, wipers and the evaporator are in place. I spent another hour adjusting door hinges again. The reason the evaporator is so far away from the kick panel is that's where the ecu is going. The factory Mustang harness has it on that side.
wfo guy
11-27-2014, 05:09 PM
Little bit of progress. Doesn't reflect on how much time I spent. I redid the bracket that holds the evaporator. When I cut the hole for the hose for the center vent, it was too weak to do as intended. I made a thicker bracket and have things where I believe they will allow the wiring harness and gauge cluster to cooperate. The back glass is in. I put Thermo-tec on the back and the top of the cab.
wfo guy
11-28-2014, 04:26 PM
It's been a hell of a day to get to post this pic. :)
wfo guy
11-30-2014, 07:54 PM
Lots of hours, not much progress.
http://youtu.be/q-GXPsQneW4
wfo guy
12-01-2014, 05:03 PM
The bed frame is on and holes drilled.
Gojeep
12-01-2014, 07:14 PM
Progress is still progress. Happens that a lot of time is spent in different stages and you wonder what you actually got done!
Motown 454
12-02-2014, 09:10 PM
I agree with Gojeep it's move along that's always good.
wfo guy
12-07-2014, 03:06 PM
Yesterday I sanded and painted a new pair of wheels for the rear. If someone knows of an exact match for American Racing gray, I'd like to know about it. Today I removed the power window, power door lock and the convertible top wiring from the harness. I retained the feed from the power supply to connect to my new harness connections.
wfo guy
12-14-2014, 01:26 PM
You like patina? I have patina! No painting till next summer! Tiny bit of progress.
Dave B
12-14-2014, 03:04 PM
Looks awesome! I wish I could get all my Wife's projects done, so I could spend some time in the garage, at least I get to enjoy your project.
2dr_sedan
12-17-2014, 06:03 PM
Awesome build!
wfo guy
12-26-2014, 04:38 PM
I spent the last couple of days changing things that weren't going to work well. Most was cosmetic but when I was checking the rear suspension, I realized that the right rear brake line was going to be pinched if the suspension travel was every fully used. I redid those lines and finished the front going to the master cylinder. The hydroboost lines have been finished and the belt is on the engine for the first time since disassembly.
wfo guy
12-27-2014, 07:31 PM
I decided to fix one more of the surprises I found a couple of days ago. When I installed the ac compressor, I realized the lines were to close to the crossmember and the fittings wouldn't clear. I looked for a different manifold and didn't find anything that looked like it would fix the problem. SO I cut the lines and rotated them and welded them back together. I welded about 3/8 " at a time because I don't know if these are silver soldered together or friction welded. I didn't take any chances. I may see if I can rig up a vacuum tester to see how I did.
wfo guy
12-28-2014, 03:41 PM
Once again I worked all day and didn't get much done. One of the pics is the remote filter mounted. The radiator is in place and some of the mounting done. There is the cooling fan and the ac condenser to mount still. The pic of all the hydroboost lines is just to show that using the Mustang parts leaves you with some real ugly areas.
wfo guy
12-31-2014, 04:58 PM
I spent 2 days trying to out smart Ford's PATS system. I'm ordering software to disable it. :)
wfo guy
01-03-2015, 04:05 PM
One pic is of the wiring I'm trying to find a way to use gracefully. I spent most of the day making panels to fill the gap between the radiator and the radiator support, mounting the condenser, and mounting the cooling fan. The fan is spaced so it can't rub anywhere on the radiator. Same with the condenser. I hooked up power to the fan and it seems to move plenty of air. I won't know until it's above 100 degrees and I'm stuck in traffic with the ac on. :)
67TXStang
01-04-2015, 02:19 PM
I've been away from the site for a while but returned this week. I just read your entire project thread from the beginning. Excellent work. Thanks for posting everything here for all of us to enjoy.
wfo guy
01-04-2015, 03:23 PM
The most important item is that the 51 is outside and my wife's car is inside. :)
The seats are in the location that I believe is the best of the compromises. The height and location is set and one bolt in each bracket. They will need braces and I have to fab doubler plates for the underneath side. I didn't realize the pic was so poor until the truck was outside. It's 15 degrees out there.
wfo guy
01-18-2015, 02:05 PM
Let me apologize for being boring. This weekends task was to do some repair on the rear fenders. I hammered and dollied some and installed panels where the Merc tail lights used to be. I'm going to have an embarrassing amount of time in these.
wfo guy
01-19-2015, 03:09 PM
This pic shows the panels I bought for the bed floor just laid out to see how it would work. I think I will coat them with bedliner. I wasn't having any success finding a bed floor anywhere that wasn't damaged or inexpensive.
Motown 454
01-19-2015, 03:52 PM
That's a whole bunch of wire! Its looking good.
eric1967
01-19-2015, 04:24 PM
What are you using on the bed floor? Cool build
wfo guy
01-19-2015, 04:37 PM
I bought those panels on ebay. "BED FLOOR RUST REPAIR PANEL FOR FORD PICK UP 1973-1979 bed floor panel" That was the auction description.
wfo guy
01-24-2015, 04:20 PM
I spent most of the day working on the rear fenders. One faintly resembles a useable fender. Tomorrow I may have something to show.
wfo guy
01-25-2015, 04:04 PM
The fenders are bolted to the box but not finished. The area that meets the running boards still needs repaired. New steel rear fenders are $1300 a pair plus shipping. I think I'm going to be at $3.50 an hour when I get finished. :)
wfo guy
01-27-2015, 05:15 PM
Lots of wiring work still to do.
http://youtu.be/FrZgm9D1nlU
Dave B
01-27-2015, 05:22 PM
That's pretty cool!
Gojeep
01-27-2015, 07:29 PM
Great moment when it fires into life for the first time. :)
wfo guy
01-29-2015, 03:43 PM
Last night, I'm working on the wiring to the fuel pump. I realize that the problem isn't power to the relay but the output to the pump. I have capped off the egr tube from the exhaust manifold and want to hear what it sounds like. I connect my bypass on the pump wiring and it fires right up. 30 seconds later the engine locks up. No noise, no nothing. The crank is welded to bearings or block. I'm analyzing options so as soon as I make a decision, I'll post what I'm doing. I was nervous about this engine, now I'm not. It's better to fail in the garage rather than 1000 miles from home.
brawls43
01-29-2015, 04:39 PM
Yikes, that's a bummer about the engine. Love seeing your progress. Time to get a 4v 5.4L out of a Navigator or something. I just love how those 4v engines sound!
Gojeep
01-29-2015, 07:29 PM
What a shame about the engine. :(
MSTSFabbed
01-30-2015, 01:19 PM
AH bummer man! I'm with you about failing in the garage though! Way easier/cheaper than on the side of the road somewhere.
gearheads78
01-30-2015, 03:56 PM
Looked all through this today. Love the build. Great work but at first I was saying nooooooo to your wheel choice but was relieved to see you switch toward the end. Perfect now!!
Dave B
01-30-2015, 07:05 PM
Oh crap....Man that sucks.
wfo guy
01-31-2015, 06:02 AM
This is a quick rundown of what I considered. There is no add-in for time for new fabrication on any changeovers.
Engine options
5.7 hemi
used with acces. $3680 plus frt. wiring harness and ecu $1,650
new with clutch $5595 plus $329 frt.
bellhousing $100
Ramjet 350
new $5745 free frt.
acces. $300
bellhousing $100
clutch $150
5.3 LS swap $1050 and up plus frt. PSI harness and ecu $900
Hanlon adapter for 3650 trans with front retainer $550
Coyote new $6,200 wiring harness and ecu $1,500
acces. at least $500
Used f150 coyote $3000 plus frt. wiring harness and ecu $1,500
used low mileage 4.6 Crown Vic 4.6 $645 with shipping
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Dave B
01-31-2015, 06:41 AM
Coyote in any form, would be cool. I can't publicly express my LS engine envy.
Jetfixr320
01-31-2015, 09:04 AM
Sorry to hear about the engine problem.
I was watching your Youtube video and its hard to read the gauges. But it appears that the oil pressure was 0. Had you had the distributor or cam sensor or oil pump out?
wfo guy
01-31-2015, 11:08 AM
Jetfixr, the wiring to the fuel pump and gauge was unplugged when that video was taken. There's something in that circuit that ties all the gauges together so they were all non-functioning. That engine had 103,000 miles on it and showed no signs of recent disassembly. The grease was really thick on most of it. It looked to be original except for the intake manifold which had the alum. crossover.
wfo guy
01-31-2015, 04:29 PM
Another day of fun and exercise! Moving forward to start over. :)
wfo guy
02-01-2015, 01:02 PM
Today's task after cleaning up the mess from the engine removal was to pull the pedal assembly and modify the mounts. There are 4 .5" risers that protrude towards the firewall that I believe were to provide spacing for firewall insulation. The master cylinder rod attached to the hydroboost is non-adjustable. In order to equalize the clutch and brake pedal heights, I removed .350" of those risers,now the pedals are very close to each other. I double walled the firewall in that area for stiffness for the pedals and didn't realize there wasn't any adjustment on the brake rod.
wfo guy
02-07-2015, 02:22 PM
We've had a little Indian summer the last 2 days. Today while it was 82 degrees, I vatted the bed floor panels and epoxy primed both sides and painted one side. I'm still thinking of using bed liner but I'm going to think about the budget before that decision is made. You can see I had a spectator in one pic. Doesn't he know it's February? :)
wfo guy
02-08-2015, 01:54 PM
Today's boring task. The hood had been ground on where the lead was and it was really thin. The brace underneath is bent and I'm going to have to make a jig to straighten it.
wfo guy
02-09-2015, 03:51 PM
The replacement engine was delivered today. There was a large cardboard box hiding the contents. There was no visible damage to the box. After removing the box I found that they used a pallet that didn't fit the engine at all. The oil pressure sender was broken and there was a thick oil over the front of the engine and in the valley. After I removed it from the pallet I gave it a solvent bath. Something strange blew off the intake. It appears to be leftover rib bones. They were large for chicken bones. Nice of someone to leave his lunch mess for me to clean up. After cleaning up the mess, the engine looks to be sealed up well. There's no sign of an oil leak on the pan or seals. I put a socket on the crank and it turns over so that's how far I got today. This weekend there will be lots of items to changeover.
wfo guy
02-13-2015, 04:25 PM
Everything's ready to do the swap tomorrow. I wonder if I can turn a 2 hour job into all day? :)
Motown 454
02-14-2015, 10:34 AM
I hope it all goes smooth for you today with the swap.
wfo guy
02-14-2015, 03:39 PM
I'm 4 hours behind my estimate but better than a lot of days I've had in the last couple of years. :) One of the pics is of a heater hose nipple that was broken off when I got the engine. There was a red plug in it so I assume the salvage yard new it and didn't mention it. We'll have a discussion about that. I faced it off and tapped it for 3/8" pipe. One pic shows the clearance that I have for the oil filter now. The new engine didn't have the oil cooler that the old one had. 2 less lines and 2 less places to leak. I had to drill and tap the crossover on the intake manifold for the ect sensor for the ecu. There was a few other items but most were small. I've spent most of the day bent over. I'll be feeling that for awhile.
Gojeep
02-14-2015, 10:52 PM
Good to see that you are making some headway.
wfo guy
02-15-2015, 03:41 PM
It's running. Ford uses 2 ground systems. I haven't got it figured out yet. More work ahead.
http://youtu.be/yu8Yf_aew8A
wfo guy
02-16-2015, 03:50 PM
I worked all day and got about 30 minutes of results accomplished. :) One pic is of the trans harness after it was changed from auto to manual. One is a pile of some circuits that I traced and removed. One is the rear harness in a semi- complete form. The throttle pedal hasn't been installed yet but it is able to move under it's own power now.
Gojeep
02-16-2015, 07:09 PM
I'll have a lot of stripping excess wiring from my donor as well being a WK Grand Cherokee Hemi 4 door wagon, but transferred into a 48 Willys Pickup truck!
Justin@EntropyRad
02-17-2015, 07:28 AM
Sweet project!
wfo guy
02-17-2015, 03:30 PM
Gojeep, do you have a build thread somewhere?
Gojeep
02-17-2015, 07:32 PM
Gojeep, do you have a build thread somewhere?
Here is one of them: http://www.nagca.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43454
wfo guy
02-17-2015, 08:00 PM
This is really lackluster. I got the throttle pedal installed and the wiring to the alternator changed so it charges. Only took 3 hours.:)
brawls43
02-18-2015, 06:15 AM
I was wondering about the Jeep build thread too. Wow Gojeep, nice work. Also, keep up the good work wfo guy!
wfo guy
02-18-2015, 04:22 PM
For those of you that appreciate first times! :)
It's going to turn winter again so it's outside for a while. Progress has slowed up again.
http://youtu.be/9BosMk72vXo
Gojeep
02-18-2015, 06:49 PM
That must have been a nice feeling being able to move it under its own power for the first time. :)
Nice truck in the back ground, not the F1 front. What is it?
wfo guy
02-18-2015, 07:00 PM
47 Dodge 1 1/2 ton. Flat head six that runs and drives. I don't have the desire to do it. It needs a new home. No rust and very little body damage. The doors close like new.
Gojeep
02-20-2015, 01:58 AM
47 Dodge 1 1/2 ton. Flat head six that runs and drives. I don't have the desire to do it. It needs a new home. No rust and very little body damage. The doors close like new.
Awesome.
wfo guy
02-21-2015, 05:36 PM
Today's project was a harness to go from coil pack to coil on plug. The anti-theft wiring I stripped out gave up some of it's life for this. :)
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