View Full Version : Connectors, Weatherpack Delphi Terminal , Deutsch DT 2 Pin Connector , other
cactuss4
08-26-2013, 07:23 PM
I find myself wanting to redo some wiring and I'm trying to find the best prices for these various connectors and wondering at the same time, if there is a brand that I'm missing, that provides a neat product at an attractive price?
the Weatherpack, can find anywhere from $2.75 to $5.00 for a 2 piece 2 pin kit, some places just have their systems so messed up that shipping ends up being 75% of the order (USPS PEOPLE!!). I really like the concept of these water/chemical resilient connectors (forget about the looks: ))..
Just wondered if we had a go to place with great prices on this stuff? And again if there is a connector I should be looking at as well (A manufacture/brand?). This is really for rewiring fans, headlights etc.etc. Really like something that will allow clean assembly and even cleaner disconnection. The dual fans on my car now had a bunch of silver tape with some type of gorilla snot and they just used blade type connectors in the FANS factory connecter. Soo ya, suggestions, pointers for the best prices? I understand I should be able to get a better price with QTY, but as of yet, I don't know what all I will be using these for, so would like to get a variety but can't comit to 100+.. I thought about getting some 12-10 gauge ones and then maybe some 18-14 gauge connectors, not sure when I would use wire thinner than that.
Thanks
Tory
Schwartz Performance
08-26-2013, 08:44 PM
Summit, DelCity, and wirecare.com.
Weatherpacks are decent, so are Deutsch.
cactuss4
08-26-2013, 09:57 PM
Summit, DelCity, and wirecare.com.
Weatherpacks are decent, so are Deutsch.
Thank you sir.. Summit is silly expensive, wirecare only carries the Deutsch it appears. delcity is a contender, if their shipping was not 40% of my entire order again. I even bumped up my qty's..
I'll keep looking, I've found a few with good pricing, but shipping kills it (not that it's a lot of money, but in terms of percentage of my order, it's silly, and quite frankly, padded envelope and a $.69 postage to USPS would get it here.
Tory
Schwartz Performance
08-27-2013, 04:49 AM
Lol I hear ya..
I've gotten some from Allstar before, they aren't too bad on cost.. If you want to email me what you're looking for ill see if I have anything in stock and we'll do the cheap shipping ;)
[email protected]
BonzoHansen
08-27-2013, 05:00 AM
I've gotten a lot of wiring stuff from waytek. I also have picked up weatherpack stuff off amazon.
astroracer
08-27-2013, 07:22 AM
I use the Molex connectors for most of my stuff and get them through McMaster Carr. If I know they will see a lot of water I will fill them with white grease to keep them water proof.
McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/#component-connectors/=o8x47k)
I also use the weatherpacks but not as a rule...
McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/#dc-voltage-connectors/=o8x3cl)
I have also picked up kits at Jegs and watch Ebay for deals on this stuff.
Mark
cactuss4
08-27-2013, 09:05 AM
thanks Astro, had not considered the molex, quite a bit cheaper, but functional, I can also do hot glue as well if i need to seal/waterproof something, however they are even higher in price on the weatherpack (McMaster, so they are out, I mean it's like 3 x the cost!!). Mouser (buy my Christmas light electronics from them), have some, pricing is okay, but not great. But i'm expanding my where to look , where to shop. i've pinged a few places asking to let me know when they have a shipping promotion :)
Schwartz, I'll send you a note
Thanks
Tory
vette427-sbc
08-27-2013, 09:53 AM
Ive been using the metripak 150 series connectors from waytek. Pretty decent pricing
keithq69
08-27-2013, 11:33 AM
Try Mouser Electronics.
I'm not sure what the shipping is like but I think the product pricing is pretty good.
Quality connectors are not cheap and can really add up when you do your electrical system properly.
Keith.
ChevelleNV
08-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Waytekwire.com has some of the best prices on weatherpack and other various style connectors. but they do have minimum order amounts on some things. next in line I would say mouser.com for connectors with no minumums on most stuff but the prices are more sometimes double that of waytekwire.com. I do wiring work on cars so I have a lot of this stuff lying around but I buy lots of stuff in large quantity's.
astroracer
08-27-2013, 03:32 PM
I use Waytek for all of my terminal strips and jumper connectors. Like you said you have to buy a minimum but I would rather do that then buy 1 component for four times the price at an parts store.
I also use Tony Candela's site for power strips and fuse blocks.
CE Auto Electric Supply - Fuse Holders (http://ceautoelectricsupply.com/fuseholders.html)
I've been trying to get him over here to see what you guys are doing. He is the one to talk to about this wiring stuff.
Mark
damacman
08-28-2013, 10:32 AM
Thank you Mark. Finding a good selection of connectors is a challenge. I'm a hobbyist first, and a business owner second. My auto electric supply business grew out of the desire to have a good assortment of the correct parts at my disposal for my projects.
Connectors can be a challenge, as there are SO MANY to choose from and it seems like all of the OEMs and aftermarket companies have their personal preference. Weatherpack connectors are the most ideal for enthusiasts for under-hood use. Many don't know, but they are designed to be used with up to 12 AWG wire. The most common Weatherpack connector kits that we sell are the 16-14 AWG variety. I like the Molex .093 style connectors for interior use and I've used a bunch of them, even though at this time we don't offer them for sale.
Regardless of the style of connector you choose, I can't stress enough that you should invest in the proper tool to install the terminals. Many of these tools are VERY expensive and single purpose. For example, the tools we use to assemble Packard 56 and 59 series terminals are made by Delphi and cost in the hundreds for each tool. But, they make a perfect crimp every single time.
wizbang
10-07-2013, 04:34 PM
I would recommend using only sealed connector systems for any wiring outside of the passenger compartment. The availability of sealed connectors and relatively low cost make them an excellent investment. They ward off deteriorating connections through time as well as electrical headaches down the road. For sealed connector systems, Delphi Weather-Pack connectors are nice if there are just 2 - 4 conductors per connector. Any more than that and the connectors get pretty bulky. They are also one of the oldest Delphi connector designs. The more contemporary Delphi sealed connectors system is the Metri-Pack series. You can get connectors with 10 or more conductors without getting too bulky. The only downside for these connectors is all the parts you need to get to complete the system. However, in my opinion, all you really need are the connector body, terminals, seals and the Terminal Position Assurance (TPA) lock. The other locks are not really necessary. Lastly, Delphi has their more recent GT series connectors. These have a smaller pitch then the Metri-Pack series and therefore are a bit more compact. The Metri-Pack and GT lines offer variants that can handle high amperage service. In my opinion, all of these are high quality connection systems.
Mouser is one of your best places to go to obtain many of the Delphi connectors at a reasonable price when buying low quantities. The down side of Mouser is they do not provide an easy cross-reference to find the related components as well as mating components. They also do not carry all of the Delphi connectors or components. They seem to carry just the most popular ones.
I hope this additional information helps.
CarlC
10-08-2013, 04:42 AM
wizbang is right on target.
I like the Delphi GT series. For those that are dealing with modern engines/drivetrains it makes connections easier since the new GM lines are mostly GT. The GT150 is rated at 15A, GT280 25A. The GT150 is great for most systems on the car, but fans, pumps, etc. will likely use GT280. There are de-rating factors for heat so watch out for that.
Here's the book that will keep you busy for a while. It's a great resource. http://delphi.com/pdf/contact/brochures/DCS_GlobalCatalog.pdf
When ordering terminals from Mouser try to find those that are -L. Those are loose terminals instead of on a reel string that have to be individually cut off.
The GT series are also available in non-sealed versions that are much more compact. I use a 16-cavity version for the center console that makes removal much easier.
Ditto on the tool. A good set of crimping dies and handle will be close to $400 but the wire an seal crimps are beautiful. To do GT280 in 10/14ga and 16/20ga will require two dies, GT150 16/22ga one set. The dies can be swapped into the same handle in about a minute. There are less expensive universal versions available but more care must be peformed to confirm wire and seal crimp quality.
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