Rear Suspension 69 Mustang

[Removed user as requested]

Hello,

I need to raise my car up from where it is currently as it has lowering blocks.

I figured going Reverse Eye springs for the rear will be a 2" drop from factory but higher than its sitting right now.

If I wanted to do a coil-over suspension setup in the rear instead of spending the $ on rear reverse eyes is it a simple process or am I looking at thousands to do it?

Reverse eyes will cost me 450 Delivered and then some labor charge. So no more than 600 should have them in with Bushes, shackles.

Is a coil over setup just a plug in setup for around same money or major job?

[Bryce]

there are a few bolt in 4-links with coilovers and they would be around 2K and up.

Can you remove the lowering blocks?

[Removed user as requested]

Hey,

Yeah I can remove lowering blocks (they are 3" drop)... the bottom of car, the support frame where exhausts hang down, things like 6" off the concrete... cant drive that anywhere so I need to lift it...

If its 2k for a coil setup in the rear alone, I will stick with reverse eyes for now as thats around $600 fitted and done.

I am looking at buying some Shock absorbers as well... Figured on BILSTEINS, they will set me back around $1000 for all 4. Are these any good? What are RideTech shocks like compare to Bilsteins? Or are they all good and not much difference getting either one?

[Zachalanche]

Hey,

Yeah I can remove lowering blocks (they are 3" drop)... the bottom of car, the support frame where exhausts hang down, things like 6" off the concrete... cant drive that anywhere so I need to lift it...

If its 2k for a coil setup in the rear alone, I will stick with reverse eyes for now as thats around $600 fitted and done.

I am looking at buying some Shock absorbers as well... Figured on BILSTEINS, they will set me back around $1000 for all 4. Are these any good? What are RideTech shocks like compare to Bilsteins? Or are they all good and not much difference getting either one?

3" lowering bocks???? holy crap. swap them with a 1" block.

[1970 TT Rustang]

Put in the 1" blocks and save your money for the ridetech setup.

[Bryce]

Put in the 1" blocks and save your money for the ridetech setup.

yep

[Removed user as requested]

Blocks cause spring windup. That is why I am getting rid of them. But I dont want the car to be factory height, just not as low as it is now, thats why I figured reverse eyes as thats approx a 2" drop from factory.

[Bryce]

Blocks cause spring windup. That is why I am getting rid of them. But I dont want the car to be factory height, just not as low as it is now, thats why I figured reverse eyes as thats approx a 2" drop from factory.

That makes sense. 1inch blocks would be okay. another idea would be to de-arch the springs or even get lowering springs from globalwest. The performance would be better with a good set of springs.

[Zachalanche]

Blocks cause spring windup. That is why I am getting rid of them. But I dont want the car to be factory height, just not as low as it is now, thats why I figured reverse eyes as thats approx a 2" drop from factory.

reducing the block by 2" will greatly reduce spring wrap. a 1" shouldn't be too bad especially if you can add traction bars. whatever you decide to do, it would be a good idea to verify your pinion angle is correct.

[Maier Motorsports]

George,
I came across your thread so I thought I would through some things out there. I rarely visit the forums and here I am now. When we developed the coil over system for our shop car it was way more challenging than I thought it would be. If I was going to offer something to a customer I felt obligated to make sure I took into consideration as many scenarios as possible like.. roll center height, pinion angle, shock travel and shock location to name a few. These are the things most customer really don't get into but sometimes they find out about them after it's to late and your new system doesn't or can't adjust that annoying issue. It can be something simple like drive line vibration and your new arms don't adjust this. Any how you get the gist. When I made Ol Blues rear suspension I tried to attend to all these thing and it made the cost pretty high. Then once I was done it was really cool but at what cost? I figure for some one who want to have something that can work really good but isn't planning on selling off a child to get it, we can't discredit your standard rear suspension with a good combination of parts. Kenny Edwards just finished in the top 5 at Good Guys in Columbus Oh. this weekend with a basic rear set up. Do a little research on leaf springs, shocks, and maybe some cool add on's to spice it up. With the right parts you can get way more than you thought you could get out of the car.

[Ron.in.SoCal]

^ Mike Maier in the house, offering vendor advice without trying to sell something. Props man...

[Removed user as requested]

Well lucky me, I found a local (well in Australia at least) guy that races cars and does all this sort of stuff. I have verified things he says with reputable car builders in the US and most agree that what hes been stating is correct.

According to him, no need to buy the shiny stuff (like ridetech) to make the car handle to that level, just need to understand suspension geometry etc, and get it all tuned in to get the car to handle just as good for less $. Of course, you need someone that understands how to tune stuff while RideTech you are buying things that have already been 'worked' out as a package.

I think I will go the Local route and have this car made without a specific name package. He also said the leaf springs can achieve a lot if things are set up right. Already going to shim align the front end as much as possible (up to 8*) to get better steering, he also mentioned some traction master thing for the rear would help.

So we will see how we go.

Thanks for the help though, it has put me in the right direction.

[Ron Sutton]

I can't suggest strongly enough to listen to Mike Maier's advice. Mike is super knowledgeable, has tons of experience, has a great grasp of what these cars are really doing ... and he's a good guy to boot.