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    1. #41
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      Resto-mod = a car that the wife/girlfriend likes to go cruise in

      Pro-touring= a car that the wife/girlfriend will never ride in cause it is too loud, rides rough, and requires one to side over the roll bar/cage, and the 5 point harness wrinkles her blouse (I can't believe I typed blouse.....)

      To me a resto-mod is a car with some mild updates to make it a cruiser to take the old tech edge off of an old car.

      Where Pro-touring is for the car that gets run harder and will see track days something 99% of the resto-mod will never get near. the resto-mods that do see track time will soon have the mods to be pro-touring.

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    2. #42
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      Heck , I don't even consider my car to be a great example of a Pro-Touring car ( YET ).
      My car is just an Old School / Low Tech / 80's version resto , with some lowered springs , 17" wheels and a 5-speed..

      I'll get there someday ..
      Jeff Tate
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    3. #43
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      Really, if you want to get technical, the term is a misnomer. The definition of "Touring" is to travel from place to place and usually implies travel for pleasure. "Pro" obviously referees to "professional", and until someone starts getting paid for driving their car around for fun, nobody is "touring" "professionally".

      Just sayin' ;-)

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      Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTATE View Post
      Carpet is a good idea .
      It cuts down on the noise , heat , and droning ..
      Which is why you leave the carpet to that wussy pro-touring crowd.

      If you can't handle the heat (& noise/droning) stay out of the streetfighters kitchen!

      Jelvis's definition is exactly what I would have wrote..... to the T!
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      Quote Originally Posted by cheapthrillz View Post
      Which is why you leave the carpet to that wussy pro-touring crowd.

      If you can't handle the heat (& noise/droning) stay out of the streetfighters kitchen!

      Jelvis's definition is exactly what I would have wrote..... to the T!
      Again, I disagree.

      I believe carpet is a necessity in any car regardless. Have you ever just put in carpet, no plush, no mat, no sound deadening/thermal protection? Yeah it DOES NOT help anything at all. It helps grip your foot when you're shifting, because your car SHOULD have a clutch.
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      naah...a real streetfighter will just powershift without using the clutch...ever....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vicinity View Post
      It helps grip your foot when you're shifting, because your car SHOULD have a clutch.
      You don't need carpet for grip , just an aluminum plate in the flloor with black non-skid surface on it,,
      Jeff Tate
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      Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTATE View Post
      You don't need carpet for grip , just an aluminum plate in the flloor with black non-skid surface on it,,
      Damn, you got me there.

      Oh, how about... carpet gives your wife/girlfriend/significant other something to clean while you tear up the streets?
      Dan
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    9. #49
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      Quote Originally Posted by edog1 View Post
      resto mod: You build the car using a reasonable monthly budget

      pro-touring: You have second mortgage on our house and max out your credit cards to build the car
      thats good!!!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTATE View Post
      You don't need carpet for grip , just an aluminum plate in the flloor with black non-skid surface on it,,
      Preach it brother!
      JC Scott


    11. #51
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      Quote Originally Posted by 406 Q-ship View Post
      Resto-mod = a car that the wife/girlfriend likes to go cruise in

      Pro-touring= a car that the wife/girlfriend will never ride in cause it is too loud, rides rough, and requires one to side over the roll bar/cage, and the 5 point harness wrinkles her blouse (I can't believe I typed blouse.....)

      To me a resto-mod is a car with some mild updates to make it a cruiser to take the old tech edge off of an old car.

      Where Pro-touring is for the car that gets run harder and will see track days something 99% of the resto-mod will never get near. the resto-mods that do see track time will soon have the mods to be pro-touring.
      Close.

      Resto-mod = a car that the wife/girlfriend likes to go cruise in

      Street-fighter = a car that the wife/girlfriend will never ride in cause it is too loud, rides rough, and requires one to side over the roll bar/cage, and the 5 point harness wrinkles her blouse (I can't believe I typed blouse.....). This is the race car with license plates.

      Pro-Touring = in between. Some overlap between this general category and either of the other two is unavoidable. Wife/girlfriend will ride in it, but usually prefers not to if another option is available.


      That "resto-mod" seems to be more closely associated with Fords and that "pro-touring" carries a GM implication is something that I've also noticed. Particularly since spending time on one of the larger Mustang forums.


      Norm
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    12. #52
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      Resto mod = when you start with a budget and stick to it

      Pro-tourning = when your resto mod has a budget but "things dont work out"
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    13. #53
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      Quote Originally Posted by Norm Peterson View Post
      Close.

      Resto-mod = a car that the wife/girlfriend likes to go cruise in

      Street-fighter = a car that the wife/girlfriend will never ride in cause it is too loud, rides rough, and requires one to side over the roll bar/cage, and the 5 point harness wrinkles her blouse (I can't believe I typed blouse.....). This is the race car with license plates.

      Pro-Touring = in between. Some overlap between this general category and either of the other two is unavoidable. Wife/girlfriend will ride in it, but usually prefers not to if another option is available.


      That "resto-mod" seems to be more closely associated with Fords and that "pro-touring" carries a GM implication is something that I've also noticed. Particularly since spending time on one of the larger Mustang forums.


      Norm
      I thought Street Fighter was a Subset of Protouring

      Like:

      Resto Mod

      Protouring
      -Street Fighter
      Dan
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    14. #54
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      If you consider "Resto-mod" as being "Pro-Touring lite", that's a PT subset too.


      Norm
      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A

    15. #55
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      I'm just happy to see this has gotten to three pages without silly pictures. Yes, the question keeps coming up every few months but the definition continues to evolve as the cars do. IMO Charley's cars are pro-touring. Hot rods with 20's are resto-mods - not that my definition matters. Maybe this thread should be attached to the definition thread. I got another one that at first everyone will shout "NO!" to: are tuners by definition hotrods?
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    16. #56
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      It says a lot about the maturity level of the site these days that the thread has meandered all over the place, and nobody's gotten upset.

      3 years ago the mods would have had to intervene to separate the combatants.

      Carry on.

      jp
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    17. #57
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      So would my project be considered "Resto-Mod because it's a Ford??

      It started life as an 86' Thunder Bird Turbo Coupe. So far I've installed an 03' Cobra IRS (that still needs to be further modified), custom thru-floor subframe connectors w/lower SFC's as well. 00' GT front suspension w/ MM tubular LCA's and coil-overs. The brakes will getting updated to 14's up front and 13's out back. I had toyed with the idea of going with an air-ride setup. The engine is a 4.6DOHC w/a 5spd. Will be adding twin turbo's at a later date. Tires and wheels are going to be 18X9.5's w/285's on the 4 corners.

      I suppose it will probably be a "Resto-Mod" because I do plan on having a complete interior and creature comforts to boot.
      Oh well.
      Last edited by 1Bad86Bird; 05-07-2010 at 03:13 PM. Reason: added stuff
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    18. #58
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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj View Post
      It says a lot about the maturity level of the site these days that the thread has meandered all over the place, and nobody's gotten upset.

      3 years ago the mods would have had to intervene to separate the combatants.

      Carry on.

      jp
      You are a mod.
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    19. #59
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      Quote Originally Posted by 1Bad86Bird View Post
      So would my project be considered "Resto-Mod because it's a Ford??

      It started life as an 86' Thunder Bird Turbo Coupe. So far I've installed an 03' Cobra IRS (that still needs to be further modified), custom thru-floor subframe connectors w/lower SFC's as well. 00' GT front suspension w/ MM tubular LCA's and coil-overs. The brakes will getting updated to 14's up front and 13's out back. I had toyed with the idea of going with an air-ride setup. The engine is a 4.6DOHC w/a 5spd. Will be adding twin turbo's at a later date. Tires and wheels are going to be 18X9.5's w/285's on the 4 corners.

      I suppose it will probably be a "Resto-Mod" because I do plan on having a complete interior and creature comforts to boot.
      Oh well.
      Dude, a fox body bird? Why haven't you started a build thread yet? Or have you and I just not seen it. These cars are cheap and can use 99% of all fox body parts which have a huge aftermarket. Sounds like a cool project.

      Back on topic, in my opinion a resto-mod is a stock restoration that has some modern or performance upgrades. The addition of a/c, wheels, exhaust, heads/intake.

      Pro-touring would be when you start to change suspension geometry, update to newer suspension like corvette into anything else. Tube frames and engine set back and stuff like that would be pro touring to me.

      Since I tend to lean towards the Ford camp more I am pretty familiar with the resto-mod term. Pro-touring was a fairly new term to me until several years ago. So I have never heard the Ford=resto-mod/Chevy=pro-touring, that's an interesting take but I think it's a little deeper than that.

      Now on the other hand what is a bolt on car that has heavy "touring" mods but is geometrically unaltered and has stock body/unibody? Something like an '03/'04 Terminator Cobra. Most would agree that it's a pretty stout car and has a huge aftermarket, now if it had heavy handling mods like suspension upgrades and brakes what would that be called? I would call it a "pro-touring" theme build but it goes against my own definition.

      It seems like there is so much gray area that it's hard to pin it down really. Pro-touring, I believe is the step after resto-mod.
      Last edited by joemac; 05-07-2010 at 05:01 PM.

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      Sorry..... I couldn't resist!
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