Introducing Project Unfair, The fastest All Around Pro Touring Car On The Planet!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Those Supras are amazing. Stock transmissions and rears and go 8s!



We won't need her to drive it, just thought I would show a little Playboy Bunny can do it, so the pressure is on me now, LOL!

[brrymnvette]

This is going to be awesome. I've been surprised noone has done an ABS retrofit yet and made it easy. Don't see how it's that hard.

But this thread is a mojor tease. WE NEED PICS! Our ADD is on overdrive!

[T_Raven]

Why the heck would anyone want ABS? Traction control I can see but just ABS sounds silly

[Vegas69]

Why the heck would anyone want ABS? Traction control I can see but just ABS sounds silly

Easy, to get max braking out of every wheel at the same time.

[parsonsj]

ABS allows you to turn with max effort braking. It's a safer braking system even if it only engages in panic situations.

jp

[silver69camaro]

Why the heck would anyone want ABS? Traction control I can see but just ABS sounds silly

Ever flat-spotted a tire?

[budweasel]

Having to wait for the next details...UNFAIR

Checking this thread every couple of hours when I should be sending out resumes...UNFAIR

Frank and John sharing their project with us...COMPLETELY AWESOME

Thank you so much for taking time to roll out this product line in such a fun way.

[John Wright]

Easy, to get max braking out of every wheel at the same time.

.....and that happens even when all four tires are loaded unevenly.


I guess that I need to get use to the ABS doing it's job...but it sure is unnerving and makes me let pressure off the pedal when it feels like I have locked up a wheel (ice mode, is what I've heard it called).

Old habits die hard, so I have to relearn how to threshold brake using the ABS.

It just feels all wrong when it's doing it's job...LOL

[1968]

I would like to see a triangulated 4-link with a lot of adjustment like a drag racing 4-link.

[MrQuick]

This is going to be awesome. I've been surprised noone has done an ABS retrofit yet and made it easy. Don't see how it's that hard.

engineering alone to make a universal kit is a huge hurdle plus I'd hate to see that product liability insurance quagmire one would face.

vince

[Bjkadron]

dedion tube?

In a really high HP application?

[Bryce]

In a really high HP application?

Im not saying its practical. But it does provide the benefits of IRS with solid axle. Not very elegant, its heavy and complicated.

I would still vote 3-link. Take a look at what new mustangs can do and that suspension is full of compromises. The cobra jet mustangs with 700hp are running in the 9s. And I think there is enough proof that they handle ok on road courses. Not sure about autocross.

So a 3 link with ultimate adjustablity. At least this is what I am doing to obtain similar goals with my car.

But drag racing will have different requirements from the front suspension. Softer springs. Different shock settings. More travel. no sway bar. Rear suspension should be able to handle at least a 30" tall drag slick if not taller.

What kind of 60 foot times do you need to run to get the car into the 8s?

[John Wright]

What kind of 60 foot times do you need to run to get the car into the 8s?

not sure but many of the turbo cars are fairly easy on parts during the launch, so I don't know what their numbers look like in the first 60 feet....they leave kinda lazy and then really pour it on as the boost builds towards the big end of the track.

[6'9"Witha69]

Ever flat-spotted a tire?

Hollywood has!

That needs to become a catch phrase!

[MrQuick]

thats how you explain that this is the place to be. The Hollywood flat spot! LOL

A 1.7 60 foot would be easy on parts right?

Vince

[windsor]

not sure but many of the turbo cars are fairly easy on parts during the launch, so I don't know what their numbers look like in the first 60 feet....they leave kinda lazy and then really pour it on as the boost builds towards the big end of the track.

Turbo cars definitely do it all on the big end.

[Ripper]

How are you going to compensate for different tires, CGH etc when selling a "ABS-kits"? Seems like most of the manufactors ABS-algorithm is quite complex and not very easy to customize...

Bosch currently have an aftermarket system for appr. 6000 EUR or so.

[jknight16]

I would like to see a triangulated 4-link with a lot of adjustment like a drag racing 4-link.

Check out the Alston Chassisworks G-link (not the G-bar). It has a ton of adjustability. Call Frank, he knows all about 'em.

[1968]

I know about the G-link but can it handle the kind of horsepower that is being discussed in this thread. Im not sure it can. I think something like Morrison's tri 4-link with good solid frame rails with adjustability would be better.

[Bjkadron]

Im not saying its practical. But it does provide the benefits of IRS with solid axle. Not very elegant, its heavy and complicated.

I would still vote 3-link. Take a look at what new mustangs can do and that suspension is full of compromises. The cobra jet mustangs with 700hp are running in the 9s. And I think there is enough proof that they handle ok on road courses. Not sure about autocross.

I would vote the same.. And even the magazines that are usually trashing the solid axle cars were praising the mustang with the FRPP handling pack. I can't see any downsides for the auto-x.

So a 3 link with ultimate adjustablity. At least this is what I am doing to obtain similar goals with my car.

Hey! Me to! and you should see what me and this other guy are cooking up for the front!

But drag racing will have different requirements from the front suspension. Softer springs. Different shock settings. More travel. no sway bar. Rear suspension should be able to handle at least a 30" tall drag slick if not taller.

What kind of 60 foot times do you need to run to get the car into the 8s?

That is what I was thinking.. they will almost have to change/ disconnect parts to get it right. But I don't have any qualms with that. I just wouldn't call it "the same set-up".

But it doesn't look they are going to tell us any time soon!