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04-21-2010 #81
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Yes, the subframe bolts to the floor as usual, and sub-frame connectors, transmission crossmembers, etc. are all in the usual places.
Downside is hood clearance, headroom in the cabin, and reduced floor to pedal clearance. We're already doing custom headers (a II Much Fabrication specialty, it seems, lol), so that's no more work than usual.
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ummm?? OK, lets go
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Exactly how far are you raising the floor? When you say "top of rocker" are you talking about the top of flange (B Line) or just below that (R Line...which would be the intersection of the flange and the top surface of the rocker)? I wish I could draw pictures on this damn thing to better ask this question.
If it's top of flange than this project will be very interesting for me from a Designers perspective. I'll be most interested in seeing how the structure in that area is redesigned in regards to body closures, etc.
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Tony, good question. Maybe Frank has a photo he might be able to share...
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With raising the floor I would be curious to see the seat / bracket combo. I'm 6" and with my Corbeau seats I had to cut the sliders down to get clearance needed.
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Yeah the floor raising means shorter guys only... well that and uncomfortable taller guys.
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We'll show you that, along with a pedal solution.
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I respectfully disagree, but I will agree its a problem we'll need to solve. We need to get 6 footers (both Frank and I were 6' tall as younger men) in there with helmets. And we're too old to be uncomfortable while driving. Originally Posted by Chad
Stay tuned!
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Lovin this....let me know if you need a tester to sort the car out
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I'm going to say it's UNFAIR cuz it's not my car!
why not use a full frame at this point?
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carbon fiber framed seats w/ neoprene padding. Originally Posted by parsonsj
I respectfully disagree, but I will agree its a problem we'll need to solve. We need to get 6 footers (both Frank and I were 6' tall as younger men) in there with helmets. And we're too old to be uncomfortable while driving. Stay tuned!
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We considered it. We didn't go that route because one of the design criteria was to provide a blueprint for other enthusiasts to build something similar. Once you go full frame, you need a custom floor, trunk, rear wheel housings, etc. We thought that would be beyond what reasonable people consider "normal" mods to a car. We decided that we would stay with a front sub-frame, factory floor, mini-tubbed type approach. Originally Posted by Dave
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John,
Are you or Frank going to post any pics in here?
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This sticky is a big ol teaser. I'm already dreaming of these chassis mods for my 68 Firebird and I've only got a few clues of what is involved... Originally Posted by dipren443
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I was going to post some pics of that rear subframe, but then remembered that it was shipped out while we were in Del Mar. Besides, probably dont need to let the cat out of the bag yet....
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Great, I'm hosed. Guess I won't be able to take it for a spin! Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen
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Any chance this "secret" rear suspension is universally adaptable and not another Camaro only item? Mopars could use a little attention. Dozens of Chevy/Ford solutions and hardly nothing on the higher end for Mopars. Please...... Originally Posted by CraigMorrison
This is going to be a great build!
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We will make them beg Craig! Originally Posted by CraigMorrison
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Yes! Originally Posted by MoparCar
Any chance this "secret" rear suspension is universally adaptable and not another Camaro only item? Mopars could use a little attention. Dozens of Chevy/Ford solutions and hardly nothing on the higher end for Mopars. Please......
This is going to be a great build!
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OK, we are teasing on a couple things and on others we simply are bound to magazine comitments. So I cannot post the entire article. But Super Chevy does know I am posting tidbits and raising insterest in the magazine articles.
I have to be careful with pics because they are part of of the Super Chevy Tech Articles
But here is a stock location floor picture and a raised floor picture. It was really pretty simple and only requred a couple closeouts to fully attach
The full story will be out in about 45 days.
Layed in at stock height
Instaled 1 1/2" higher
Here is one of the closeouts requiredLast edited by ProdigyCustoms; 04-21-2010 at 11:54 AM.
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