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  1. #1
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    Default Introducing Project Unfair, The fastest All Around Pro Touring Car On The Planet!

    John Parsons and I have been holding our breath on this Since SEMA on this! And it has been killing us both to hold it in.

    We had to wait for the June issue of Super Chevy Magazine to hit the streets.

    Project Unfair!

    II Much Fabrication and Prodigy Customs have partnered up to build in the pages of Super Chevy Magazine the fastest All Around Pro Touring Car On the Planet!

    John Parsons and Frank Serafine are going to where no one else has gone. We are re writing the Rule books! We are building a car to run with the best on the road coarse, autocross, Run 8s in the quarter mile and 200MPH + at the Maxton mile, all in a package capable of doing Power Tour and grab groceries.

    Huh?

    Pretty Strong Statement?

    You Betcha!

    So we are not screwing and around and going for the throat!

    Introducing

    Project Unfair!

    Let's talk about the name.

    Project Unfair.

    It was John who came up with the name. We were talking one day about all things we are doing with this project and one of us said, it is almost Unfair! Then we start talking about Mark Donahue and the Unfair Advantage cars of Trans Am Legend, and the name was born.

    So what is Unfair?

    Revolutionary NO COMPROMISE Dual mode suspension will allow us to tune for handling or straight line activities. A true no compromise G machine set up and a true no compromise drag race set up. Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    Supercharged LSX engine with a BIG blower and 2 pulleys, 750HP street pump gas set up, 1100 HP race gas set up. Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    Traction control (Yes, traction control) Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    Anti lock brakes (Yes anti lock brakes) Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    Super lightweight using Chrome Moly, aluminum body panels, we are looking for 3000LB curb Weight. Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    We are raising the factory floor 1 1/2" to channel the body, lower the ride height and COG. Kinda UNFAIR isn't it?

    And there is more.

    The entire build will be covered in 12 (6) page article issues of Super Chevy over the next year including Dyno and performance reports.

    Project Unfair is also going to be covered here on the forum as a Pro-Touring.com Feature project. So members will get regular updates.

    There is so much to the car, John and I are going to be fielding questions and telling more as we go.

    Below are some renderings showing the 3 personalities and also the hulk we started with.



    Enjoy



    Last edited by parsonsj; 05-21-2010 at 03:01 PM.


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    Hey Frank thats a nice Vin# plate. LOL
    Matt


    Current project: " Chain Reaction "

    A.K.A. " BIG " by wife, biatch in garage.

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    Ex track car: 1995 Camaro LS1 T56

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    Subscribed.


    1976 T/A LS1, 6 Speed, Dynatech, C5 front brakes, PTFB springs, Koni Red, LS1 Cooling fans, and etc. SOLD

    LOOKING FOR A NEW RUST FREE PROJECT, PM ME IF YOU HAVE ONE.

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    You will lose to Penny on the autocross. Kind of UNFAIR isn't it?

    lol

    Sorry.. couldn't resist.. :D

    Bad Ass project.. Can't wait to see her all done up and killing apexes.. Even though you jilted me for another magazine I still get a free ride, right?
    "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

    See Bad Penny run the cones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GUPPIX-92U

    2000 SS, 1969 LS1, and 1968 LS2 Camaros
    Oh, and a 1970 Fairlane just to show I could...

    See my cars here: www.fquick.com/steve1968ls2

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    Steve, if you're nice to us, we'll let you drive it.

    If Penny (the world's most sorted car) wins, that fair. If we win, it's Unfair!

    jp
    Last edited by parsonsj; 04-20-2010 at 07:24 AM.
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    Dont count me out, I'm coming for you guys, LOL

    Gaetano Cosentino
    Dont Drive Faster Than Your Angels Can Fly

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    Wow...... Good luck guys! JP and Frank.... that's a hell of a team right there! It's not really fair I guess....

    I can't wait to see what you guys come up with for Aero improvements!
    JC Scott


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    AWESOME! Now I better call you and try and get my heap in there!
    My Current Project

    1955 Chevy 150 - aka John Doe
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    1968 Camaro
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    Very nice!


    8's in the qtr, though? I'll have to wait'n'see for that... good luck!

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    And speaking of an unfair advantage, we've also assembled a team of engineers (several of whom helped out on II Much) to help/consult on Unfair. John Ulaszek (ME, with expertise in lightweight materials and materials interface design), Don Elliott (ME, who was the forced induction engineer on the Ford GT), Glenn Estelle (ME, who did the FEA for II Much's uprights), and Pete Visser (ME, who specializes in electronic fuel injection).

    We're gonna have a blast with this project!

    jp
    Last edited by parsonsj; 04-21-2010 at 08:44 AM.
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    The project looks great and the concept is the extreme of what we all try to achieve. I love it!!!

    The color is the best part for me, YELLOW cars are always the fastest !!!! Even the yellow privately owned Ferarri's would beat the red factory cars because they were YELLOW ,LOL.
    May The Horsepower Be With You !!!

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    That may be the start of a new trend. This sounds like a wild ride that will be the envy of Ferrari, Lambo and other supercar owners.

    I was wondering when someone was going to start using the most modern technology available for our classic musclecars (i.e. ABS, traction control).

    Congrats on the project!
    MAG

    1969 Camaro Pro-Touring Project

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj View Post
    Steve, if you're nice to us, we'll let you drive it.

    If Penny (the world's most sorted car) wins, that fair. If we win, it's Unfair!

    jp
    My car would be far more sorted if I would stop rebuiding it each year.. lol..

    Hey, the way I look at it is that there are always gonna be faster cars.. but I will try to at least make you work for it.. ;)

    And thanks for the offer to drive.. I don't tend to crash PT cars.. often..
    "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

    See Bad Penny run the cones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GUPPIX-92U

    2000 SS, 1969 LS1, and 1968 LS2 Camaros
    Oh, and a 1970 Fairlane just to show I could...

    See my cars here: www.fquick.com/steve1968ls2

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    You guys have some killer plans. A carbon fiber roof such as on the BMW M3's would look great, if possible.
    MAG

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    Default Awesome build Frank....

    I can't wait to see how this unfolds.

    I get the motor and ABS set up. Anymore details on the TC system your using? Also, what suspension system is this going on, front and rear?

    Aluminum panels are great, but any worries about stress cracks? You see that on custom motorcycle tanks all the time...

    Ron

    P.S. you'll still have time to take orders, right?

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    It's UNFAIR that I can't see the pics at work!!
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    When John and I dreamed up this little adventure, we were sitting at Barret Jackson with the cars before they ran through. One of the key objectives in building Unfair was building a car that someone could duplicate without a ton of crazy fabrication and one off parts. We want the car to accept available aftermarket components and hold super custom fabrication to a minimum. Which would rule out a CF roof.

    The body will stay all alloy with steel and aluminum panels all supplied by Auto metal Direct.

    We are using their MUCH improved panels everywhere we can. And are using their aluminum front panels (sheds 115LBS off the nose) and aluminum deck lid and rear bumper (sheds another 20 of the rear). We are not so focused on losing much rear weight, we are looking to reduce weight overall, but the closer to 50 / 50 balance we get, the better.
    Last edited by ProdigyCustoms; 04-20-2010 at 08:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash911 View Post

    Aluminum panels are great, but any worries about stress cracks? You see that on custom motorcycle tanks all the time...
    Not worried a bit about stress cracks. We are only using bolt on panels in aluminum. These panels are the coolest thing ever. Kind of like the old Gillette comercial!

    These panels are so cool we became distributors!


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    Frank, just seen the project in the new super chevy.


    Cant wait to see this project build.

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