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    1. #1
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      Sep 2004
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      To Acid Dip & E-Coat or not to? That is the question!

      The Mule was dipped and e-coated. Should I? I have heard a mixed bag about it. Just wondering if anyone has any experiences.



      I am going to be starting to strip down my car and wanted to know what i should do.

      I have done media blasting before, but that stuff gets everywhere. I want something that is clean, and going to be the best long term solution.

      I like that the fact that dipping and e-coating gets in every nook and cranny. I have heard that can be bad too though...

      Thoughts?


    2. #2
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      do you know if it is available in your area, you may have to trailer you car a long ways to get it done. cars from the factory are always e-coated, so i don't think that it would be a bad idea at all. being able so seal all the places you could never get to with a paint gun is great, no chance of rust. some people say that when you acid dip parts the acids get in some places and it can't be washed out and it will eat away at the metal. but i think if the place you are going to know what they are doing they will be able to neutralize all the acid. good luck with what ever you decide.

    3. #3
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      Had my subframe dipped and ecoated by carponets and I would highly suggest it!! Add up the cost of blasting inside and out then cost of epoxy prime and your at the same if not more.And it still wont be as good as a full on dip. Make the trip to Detroit and youll be happy.
      Chris
      1971 RS Z28 Pro-touring thing......will it ever be done??

    4. #4
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      Does anybody know of a company that can E-coat parts here in Ontario, Canada? The trip to Detroit isn't so bad, it's the hassles and BS of taking something over the border and then bringing it back.
      Ken
      If there is a hard way to do something, I'll find it!
      My other car is a Vega.

    5. #5
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      Carponents

      Not sure but I heard carponents went out of business. I'm sure Kyle would know. I had him take my car over to get dipped and e-coated and I love it. My body man loved it too.

      It truely is like having a new car. Plus you don't have the sand or what ever you use in every nook and cranie.

    6. #6
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      How much does something like this cost? about 5 grand or so?
      -David

    7. #7
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      I'd like to know the same... how much, and is there a place in Vegas/SoCal that can do it?
      Doug
      67 Camaro - Project: Retribution



      "Honda: The most efficient means of converting gasoline into noise without the side effect of horsepower."

    8. #8
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      A group thing, what an awsome idea!

      But mine probably won't be ready till late next year.

      Man thats going to be a haul frome Fl. Gan you say ROADTRIP.

      Roger

    9. #9
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      This probably doesn't help those of you up north and out west, but remarkably we have a redistrip/chemical dip business here in Jackson, Mississippi. My brother in law had a Kharma Gia body dipped a couple of years ago and they did a very good job...including neutralizing the acid. Their tank is huge...at the time we delivered his car, they also had a VW van and several other car bodies sitting in storage that had been dipped. I do plan on having my '67 Camaro dipped sometime in the next year. They also do powder coating.

      Equally remarkable, there is another business just north of Jackson that does e-coating. I do not know much about them, but I plan on checking them out soon.

      Chris

    10. #10
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      Hey chris find out when ever u do about the price and stuff. if its cheap i will go to mississippi(sp).
      -David

    11. #11
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      Aug 2004
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      Alcaline

      Redi-Strip uses an Alcaline stripping process not acid. Puts a big hurt on anything not metal. Works great.
      Dan

    12. #12
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      Hey Stokes, I am from Mississippi What is the name and number of both companies. I will truck my body there next time I go home.

      thx

    13. #13
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      Here is tread from camaros.net from a few months ago with just a little info in the e-coating at Systems Electro Coating, LLC. It's located just off I-55 north between Gluckstadt and Canton (south of the Nissan plant) if you are familier with the Jackson metro area. The phone number is (601) 407-2340 or (601) 407-2355

      E-Coating

      Metal Finishing Services does the stripping. It is located in west Jackson near I-220 in the industrial park. Their phone number is (601) 355-3317. Judging by their address, this is not the same location that we took my brother in law's car.

      Everything will probably be shut down tomorrow (Wednesday), but since I'm off work and it will probably be raining, I will investigate both shops. I'll report back what I find, including price estimates if I can get them.

      Chris

    14. #14
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      Does anyone know of a place in Atlanta, GA that does e-coating?

    15. #15
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      I just talked to them (Redi Strip 601-355-3317, David or Preston) and the price they gave me for my 69 Camaro was $1900. $900 for stripping and $1000 for e coating. Not a bad price considering it will cut down on the amount of work and money it will save me stripping it my self.

    16. #16
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      So my next question is should i have it e-coated first then do the metal work (tubs, rear suspension, sfc's, firewall etc.) or should i do the metal work right after having it dipped and stripped and then e-coat it after the metal work.

      According the the article, the Mule got dipped & stripped, did the metal work, then dipped again, then got e-coated.

    17. #17
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      Nutsy, I would have the car dipped first then do the metal work. After that it can be dipped and e coated. Most dipping places I have dealt with will dip it the second time for free. You can always have the car blasted first, which is cheaper.
      Last edited by trayb; 11-23-2004 at 08:12 AM. Reason: Did not finish with info

    18. #18
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      What Trayb suggested was one of the things I was going to find out. I was hoping I could work a deal to have it dipped both before and after the metal work. Hopefully I wouldn't lose too much of the actual metal doing that.

      Trayb, if you do bring your car to Jackson to have it dipped and ecoated, I would really like to see it after getting dipped and again after getting ecoated. Please keep us informed here or feel free to email me [email protected] . If there is anything I can help you with, let me know.

      Chris

    19. #19
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      Chris, I can be reached at 404-435-2686. I am looking at bringin my car home during the christmas holidays, if I can get it disassembled and cut out the the rusted metal that I can find.
      Last edited by trayb; 11-23-2004 at 09:00 AM. Reason: typo

    20. #20
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      Aug 2004
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      Hattiesburg, MS
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      Im the brother-in-law that stokes was talking about. I had a Karmen ghia body dipped and it ran about $900. Ive also had doors from a 57 chevy dipped and they were about $50 each. After dipping the body they perform what they call a phosphate wash were they coat the whole body inside and out with a rust inhibiting solution. The Ghia was dipped back in 1995 then preped and painted and to this date there is no body rust. Very good investment.
      mike

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