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    1. #21
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ron Sutton View Post
      More good points Bonzo & John.

      Bonzo, you'd have more money to build cars if you stay out of strip clubs in Parhump!
      (Inside joke y'all)
      I was keeping you out!

      Scott from NJ.

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      Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
      I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors


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      If I were really trying to build something strictly for autocross that I could fit in (mine was a compromise for spousal backseat), I'd build an LS engined TR7. Solid bodies are still easy and cheap to find, they just don't run. You can add big brakes, flares, and rubber for the same price as any other car and it's a very compact package.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JustJohn View Post
      If I were really trying to build something strictly for autocross that I could fit in (mine was a compromise for spousal backseat), I'd build an LS engined TR7. Solid bodies are still easy and cheap to find, they just don't run. You can add big brakes, flares, and rubber for the same price as any other car and it's a very compact package.
      ...and a 5.3L LS is "big". Where's the "like" button?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-It View Post
      My parts list:
      I have Speedtech extreme suspension front and torque arm rear, speedway floater rear end, NASCAR built center section with oil cooler, carbon drive shaft, vaporworx fuel system, vintage air, supercharged 5.3 LS motor,Jake's performance built 4l80e and billet converter Recaro seats, full 12 point cage, carbon fiber hood ,trunk, upper and lower valance and cowl, Brembo brakes front and rear, racepak gauges, wilwood pedal set up, collapsible steering column,etc etc.
      That's a great build. ...some serious hardware. Show us a pic some day.
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      I would do a Factory 5 Cobra. The base kit is 20K, throw in a Coyote and a 5 speed, wheels, tires & paint and your autocrossing for less than 50K ....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve Chryssos View Post
      ...and a 5.3L LS is "big". Where's the "like" button?
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      50 lbs heavier than the stock 4 banger that doesn't run.

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      Scott from NJ.

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      Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
      I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors

    8. #28
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      Here it is Steve. I'm trying to have it a completed roller by the end of the year and running by the end of next year.

      No fancy paint going on it, No fancy wheels, No custom interior. But all the suspension and parts is the best I could afford and not a $50k build that should still get the job done. All work was mostly done in my old 2 car garage until I got my home now with a shop.

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      Protouring on a budget? I like the direction this thread is going.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JustJohn View Post
      If I were really trying to build something strictly for autocross that I could fit in (mine was a compromise for spousal backseat), I'd build an LS engined TR7. Solid bodies are still easy and cheap to find, they just don't run. You can add big brakes, flares, and rubber for the same price as any other car and it's a very compact package.
      I like the way you think. About twenty years ago, there was a nicely built prostreet TR7, in our town, that was insanely quick and just looked Mean! Your idea makes way more sense.

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      Let's not get into pro-touring definitions, but given the TR2 and Cobra suggestions:

      I love the FFR 818. $50k for a modest build using mostly new parts is easily achievable, and the resulting car will run with any pro-touring car. It's light, fast, and something one can build at home without needing expensive paint or interior.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tincup View Post
      I would do a Factory 5 Cobra. The base kit is 20K, throw in a Coyote and a 5 speed, wheels, tires & paint and your autocrossing for less than 50K ....
      Sounds like a good plan. LSX for the one I'm building though.
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      I did 100% of the work myself so all I have in Dust Off is the parts. Labor is a MAJOR expense and I could not have built this car if I had to pay someone else to do the work. Learning to weld and do basic metal work is almost mandatory. Also, John made an excellent point about not buying parts until you need them. I see so many people that collect parts for years only to have the parts become obsolete, or their preferences change by the time the parts are needed. I would also point out that once a part is purchased the warranty on it is ticking. If you have a problem with a 2 or 3 year old new part with a 90 day warranty you are just out of luck.
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      Well isn’t this easy? A used C5...a stock C5 will perform better in stock form then really old car with mods. A stock C5, swap the engine for a 400 cube LS, minor suspension upgrades and tires...it will be very competitive .
      1970 Camaro/DSE build


      Are you driver enough? Maybe....come on blue!
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...71#post1147371

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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      Well isn’t this easy? A used C5...a stock C5 will perform better in stock form then really old car with mods. A stock C5, swap the engine for a 400 cube LS, minor suspension upgrades and tires...it will be very competitive .
      From the OP

      "No I'm only referencing the new Camaros as a cost target. Old cars and trucks only."
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      I believe part of the problem with this thread is what the perceived definition of "pro-touring car" is. It was further clouded with the new Camaro reference as that alluded to the fact that we are trying to match that car's performance with this 50k build, which we won't (with a classic car). I agree with OP that I see quite a few sub 50k cars (my opinion) that have a pro-tour theme that I find to be cool cars.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-It View Post
      From the OP

      "No I'm only referencing the new Camaros as a cost target. Old cars and trucks only."

      Lol....define “old”. A 1997-04 Corvette isn’t exactly a new car....as sad as that is. 20+ years lol
      1970 Camaro/DSE build


      Are you driver enough? Maybe....come on blue!
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...71#post1147371

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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      Lol....define “old”. A 1997-04 Corvette isn’t exactly a new car....as sad as that is. 20+ years lol
      That's too easy!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-It View Post
      No fancy paint going on it, No fancy wheels, No custom interior. But all the suspension and parts is the best I could afford and not a $50k build that should still get the job done. All work was mostly done in my old 2 car garage until I got my home now with a shop.

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      Awesome.. All business.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-It View Post
      From the OP

      "No I'm only referencing the new Camaros as a cost target. Old cars and trucks only."

      Lol....define “old”. A 1997-04 Corvette isn’t exactly a new car....as sad as that is. 20+ years lol
      1970 Camaro/DSE build


      Are you driver enough? Maybe....come on blue!
      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...71#post1147371

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