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    1. #1
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      C5/C6 rear disc....worth it?

      Looking for the PT crowd thoughts. I'm starting from scratch with my Ford 9", I do have some C5 odd and ends, but looking to see if the juice is worth the squeeze. I initially wanted BAER on all 4 corners, but the size I want requires 18" (I have 17s). So looking into C5 rear swap, but the kit is ~$1200. The Baer kit is $1999.....

      with the c5 being a single Piston is it even a worth swap for that kind of money?


      Btw....can I even run the parking brakes with 335 tires?
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      How about doing Moser 7900 housing ends and just doing the 02' F body swap. It's pretty much the same thing as a C6 swap but it can be done for 300 bucks and the only difference is the way the calipers are cast vs the C6s. I bought a junkyard setup off ebay, blasted the calipers, bought rebuild parts from rock auto, painted them with caliper paint and they work great. There's pics in my build thread if you're interested.
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      Just to lead with a disclaimer, because I'm clearly biased, but it all depends. If you want a good and balanced brake setup, then yes, it is worth it IMO. The C5/C6 rear discs will match up with the front both in terms of brake torque and thermal capacity, thus reducing the load on the front brakes in severe-duty braking applications. The 98-02 LS1 F-body brakes also balance out very well with the C5/C6 front brakes given that they have the same caliper piston area and rotor diameter, just with slightly lower quality components as compared to the C5/C6 stuff. As nick pointed out though, a very good value for what they are.

      I wouldn't presume poor performance due to low piston count...they work quite well.

      As for the parking brake, yes, you can run them with 335/345 tires without issue. Are you concerned about the parking brake cable routing?

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      +1 on the 98-02 F body parts. I have a grand total of $500 in the rear brakes with new rotors, pads, and a rebuild kit. All of the OEM parts have tons of engineering in them, they will last a long time.

      As a rule of thumb I would listen to anything Tobin has to say, he really knows his stuff.
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      i wouldn't spend $1200 for that. save up and do it right and once. Get what you want. Someone once told me it only takes alittle extra to go first class.

      I saved up alittle more and went with the c6 z06 front and rear setup with kore 3 parking brakes.

      Did you already shorten your rear end? If not then go with a floater setup

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      I already have the 9", went with semi floating.

      I'm definitly getting Baer 6Ps for the front. I'm just unsure on the rear. I want it to perform and not look mismatched either. With the large tires, yes I'm concerned about the activation cables rubbing on the tires. I have that problem now with 275s and the ws6 rear disc,
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      Quote Originally Posted by Apogee View Post
      Just to lead with a disclaimer, because I'm clearly biased, but it all depends. If you want a good and balanced brake setup, then yes, it is worth it IMO. The C5/C6 rear discs will match up with the front both in terms of brake torque and thermal capacity, thus reducing the load on the front brakes in severe-duty braking applications. The 98-02 LS1 F-body brakes also balance out very well with the C5/C6 front brakes given that they have the same caliper piston area and rotor diameter, just with slightly lower quality components as compared to the C5/C6 stuff. As nick pointed out though, a very good value for what they are.

      I wouldn't presume poor performance due to low piston count...they work quite well.

      As for the parking brake, yes, you can run them with 335/345 tires without issue. Are you concerned about the parking brake cable routing?

      Tobin
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      Balance with the Baer fronts?

      I'm just torn because I know the front does most of the braking, but times have advanced. Production cars are now coming with larger rotors with larger piston volume and number. That's why I'm so hesitant to go with C5/C6 because though good brakes, kind High priced for what they are?

      I mean right now, 6 piston bear rears are on sale for $17-1800 bucks, yet the C5 swap is $1200+

      Am I missing something?
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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      I already have the 9", went with semi floating.

      I'm definitly getting Baer 6Ps for the front. I'm just unsure on the rear. I want it to perform and not look mismatched either. With the large tires, yes I'm concerned about the activation cables rubbing on the tires. I have that problem now with 275s and the ws6 rear disc,
      Man I've run WS6 discs with wide slicks, 275-60-15 street and DOT stickies, 255-50-16 "rear offset" WS6 GTA wheels, 25x10-16 road race slicks and never had a rub issue.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Skip Fix View Post
      Man I've run WS6 discs with wide slicks, 275-60-15 street and DOT stickies, 255-50-16 "rear offset" WS6 GTA wheels, 25x10-16 road race slicks and never had a rub issue.

      I don't see how yours would clear unless you're running a backspace that pushes the tires out the wheel well. The cable coming out is parallel to the wheel. The rubber rubs on the cable.
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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      Balance with the Baer fronts?

      I'm just torn because I know the front does most of the braking, but times have advanced. Production cars are now coming with larger rotors with larger piston volume and number. That's why I'm so hesitant to go with C5/C6 because though good brakes, kind High priced for what they are?

      I mean right now, 6 piston bear rears are on sale for $17-1800 bucks, yet the C5 swap is $1200+

      Am I missing something?
      Check out the link . Ya I know a few parts missing but you see it is a more bang for your buck .
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view.html/ref=nav_cart

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      What's the link? It goes to a shopping cart
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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      What's the link? It goes to a shopping cart
      That is the link showing how inexpensive the ZO6 brake can be .

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      Quote Originally Posted by MOREHORSEPOWER View Post
      That is the link showing how inexpensive the ZO6 brake can be .


      Can you repost? It doesn't show anything
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      Quote Originally Posted by badazz81z28 View Post
      Can you repost? It doesn't show anything
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view....iglink22554-20

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      Quote Originally Posted by MOREHORSEPOWER View Post
      Still nothing��



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      Can't use a link to a cart, no one else can see what is in your cart except yourself.

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      Here are the part numbers ! Do a search on Amazon and you will find the C6 ZO6 front and rear rotors and calipers priced at $1,395.40
      ACDelco 172-2576
      ACDelco 172-2575
      ACDelco 172-2574
      ACDelco 172-2573
      ACDelco 177-1126 X 2
      ACDelco 177-0925 X 2

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      Quote Originally Posted by MOREHORSEPOWER View Post
      Here are the part numbers ! Do a search on Amazon and you will find the C6 ZO6 front and rear rotors and calipers priced at $1,395.40
      ACDelco 172-2576
      ACDelco 172-2575
      ACDelco 172-2574
      ACDelco 172-2573
      ACDelco 177-1126 X 2
      ACDelco 177-0925 X 2
      Thanks, the brackets to adapt them to the ford 9" rear are what slim pickings and expensive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MOREHORSEPOWER View Post
      Here are the part numbers ! Do a search on Amazon and you will find the C6 ZO6 front and rear rotors and calipers priced at $1,395.40
      ACDelco 172-2576
      ACDelco 172-2575
      ACDelco 172-2574
      ACDelco 172-2573
      ACDelco 177-1126 X 2
      ACDelco 177-0925 X 2

      Don't forget pads and pins, they add another 400 if you get them on Amazon
      ACDelco 171-0959
      ACDelco 171-0970





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