Black Projector lights

[DreamRyder1963]

I am thinking about running black projector headlights on my 63 corvair. I am updateing the headlights because the high beams will be removed for air intakes. I want to run a 9003 bulb. Before I do anything I would like to see if anyone has a pic of similar headlights installed. I'm afraid they will be to modern looking when paired with the classic lines of the car.

[grendel]

I have a set of JW Speaker 7" LED in my 73 Camaro. They also make a 5.5" in high/low beam that looks similar.

[driveit]

Any more pics of these?

[DreamRyder1963]

How are they, brightness wise, compared to 9003 bulbs?

[grendel]

Any more pics of these?

Not sure if you're talking to me?

How are they, brightness wise, compared to 9003 bulbs?

If you mean me, night and day difference to most lighting. No comparison, even JW Speaker to Truck Lite LED's. I put them in everything I could.

My GMC C15, My Jeeps, etc.

I also modified the wiring, used relays to power the head lights and stopped sending power through the head light switch. That in of itself is an improvement.

[reedld]

I also modified the wiring, used relays to power the head lights and stopped sending power through the head light switch. That in of itself is an improvement.

This one of the FIRST mods people should do with their headlights, it's simple, cheap and works very well.

[grendel]

This one of the FIRST mods people should do with their headlights, it's simple, cheap and works very well.

Absolutely. All the modern vehicles do it. If needed, go to the bone yard and pull out all the Bosch relays ;)

[vette427-sbc]

Those lights pictured in the OP are not projectors... But that is besides your question... I love my projectors and went with the all black on both cars. The ones on the '55 were made by black flame customs.

[DreamRyder1963]

Which model are you using? How much modification did it take to install them?

[vette427-sbc]

Both sets were custom made. Major modification to get them in the vette, minimal to get them in the '55

[mc84_zz4]

The first picture posted of a black set of 'simulated HID' headlights may look cool, but they are useless for driving at night. It's about the same as wearing sunglasses.

The light is not being projected in the sense like an HID projector works, they are still reflecting the light from the reflector bowl. The lens is just a cheap piece of plastic mounted on stilts (also blocking more light from reaching the reflector bowl), it is not a projector lens. The black chrome also cuts the amount of light drastically, and the color of the beam.

If you want to get a decent set of lights, there are some bargains like Autopal, which are a decent knock-off to Hella/Bosch/Delta, and are plug-and-play.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-3-4-H5001-...effede&vxp=mtr

They are also available in the 'free-form' or 'Diamond pattern'
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-3-4-HARLEY...-/270329149435

Personall, I would avoid the blue bulbs, those are also useless for producing useable light, your eyes cannot focus as well with blue-spectrum light anyway, it's just a fad trying to get the light to 'appear' as if it were an HID light, and they actually filter off about 15-20% of the produced lumens. (thats another discussion)

If you want to get a better quality, the Hella originals are a bit pricier, but the beam pattern, clarity of the polish and chrome bowl are much, much superior. This kit also comes with a pigtail that swaps the connector pin orientation, which is needed on most sealed beam swaps to properly have low beam and high beam working.
http://www.rallylights.com/all/light...dlamp-kit.html


If you want to find something a bit more exotic, but just as nice in quality, the Cibie are available in a flat or rounded lens, these are very nice. This is the rounded lens:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html

The H4 bulbs have probably the widest availability of bulbs.
Here is the top gun at the moment, the Phillips Xtreme power:
http://store.candlepower.com/90h4hbxtpo.html
This is probably the best price you will see these in the US (from a reputable seller).
Here is another one that I consider at equal with the Phillips Xtreme, Osram Unlimited:
http://store.candlepower.com/fcocoosnibrp2.html

Here is the prior version of Osram , the Plus 90, at a super price, since they just lauched their latest to match the Phillips.
http://store.candlepower.com/bconibr90pul.html
Osram and Phillips have matching bulbs for foglights, in case you have some.

Here are some 'off-road' bulbs that will fit, but you really should add a power relay harness before trying these:
Osram 70/65w
http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html
Osram 85/80w
http://store.candlepower.com/64206.html

[ULTM8Z]

The first picture posted of a black set of 'simulated HID' headlights may look cool, but they are useless for driving at night.
it's about the same as wearing sunglasses.
The light is not being projected in the sense like an HID projector works, they are still reflecting the light from the reflector bowl. The lens is just a cheap piece of plastic mounted on stilts (also blocking more light from reaching the reflector bowl), it is not a projector lens. The black chrome also cuts the amount of light drastically, and the color of the beam.
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Agreed. These ebay jobs are NOT projectors.

You can also retrofit late model projector (true projectors) into your car. It's a bit of work, but once you do it, it opens the door to other lighting possibilities (if you're into LED's and what not)... I got a set of 2006-2008 Acura TL units.

http://ultm8z.com/Exterior.htm

http://ultm8z.com/Driving%20Light%20write%20up.pdf

[mc84_zz4]

^^ that's a clean install!

Here is a link to the 5 3/4" JW Speaker LED headlights, their price is a bit steep.
You can see from the PDF link that it will also take major surgery to the headlight buckets to make it fit.
http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/he...-low-headlight
http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/he...product=100126

[DreamRyder1963]

I will have to check those Philips bulbs out. I am currently using Sylvania ZXE bulbs in my C10, and I really like them. They are bright and white and that's without the relay upgrade.

[1967ls2]

Dapper lighting.

[snappytravis]

Here is another headlight company, I was just looking at this morning, The headlight with turn signal is kind of a cool setup.
http://haloheadlights.co/ourproducts/