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07-10-2008, 05:11 PM
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400hp/500tq on e85 and gets 110mpg????
UMMMMMM any thoughts on this? This frys my mind like bacon!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...Car_169809.htm
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07-10-2008, 05:35 PM
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If it were true the guy would end up dead within a week. Hes full of it.
Like these guys that were working on a bacteria that produces ethanol: http://cryptogon.com/?p=2861 lets not forget his 0-60 claim of 3 seconds  http://www.news8austin.com/content/t...sp?ArID=213291
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07-10-2008, 05:35 PM
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I'm calling BS for now.
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07-10-2008, 08:12 PM
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They announced this contest at the NewYork Autoshow this year...Jayleno was even talking about this on his website before. Its a contest for teams to develop 100mpg or better cars for a grand prize of 10million dollars. If you look on his gas cap you see the decal that this car is a contestant in the same contest.
its the Progressive Automotive X prize
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07-11-2008, 04:42 AM
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I have always been one of those guys that you got to show me before i be leave it.
But that would be sick if it is.
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07-11-2008, 05:59 AM
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Quote:
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07-11-2008, 06:27 AM
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As long as he is still using an internal combustion V8 the physics just don't add up. I would love for it to be true.
Anyone remember that Fiero that Smokey built in the 80's that super heated the intake charge and made some crazy HP and great mileage but the heat killed it?
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07-11-2008, 06:46 AM
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0-60 in 3sec. with 400hp? no.
10 years he's been tweaking it? Where was he when gas hit $3gal. and he was getting maybe 75mpg? Back in the 70's the mechanic in my neighborhood and his nephew made some sort of vapor thing and were in the local paper.Looked like an old toolbox under the hood.They sold the thing to chrysler and that was the end of it. I think someone just snookered CNN and got his 15min. of fame.
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07-11-2008, 08:40 AM
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if i understood the contest correctly for e85 fuel only needs 66mpg. either way the massive gain im MPG out of nowhere does sound odd thats for sure.
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07-11-2008, 11:19 AM
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Hope its true ... I agree he shoud stap on some body armor if it is cause that kind of thing would sure get him some interesting visits from some Blackwater type Oil co. folks ...
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07-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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Gawd this thread smells like bullsh&*.
That car will probably need some 25HP to run on the freeway (if not more), which is about 0.31kwh. E85 has a energy capacity of 30kwh, which means 97mpg is obtainable when the engine is running at 100% efficiency. Impossible. Modern motors today are around 30%. If he's broken the laws of thermodynamics and physics, he deserves a gold star.
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07-12-2008, 11:50 AM
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I think its crap 2. Its why i posted it. What gets me about the whole thing is he said ford was working on the technology and all the engineers involved retired.
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07-12-2008, 02:43 PM
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It sounded like he pulled the "3 seconds" answer out of the air. I don't care if it takes 4 seconds, if he's getting close to that MPG claim.
If his setup brings big numbers like that, a big oil company will buy it and squash it with claims that it didn't work. Sounds like Smokey Yunick all over again. He better be watching over his shoulder if it is true. Tony Huntimer RaceHome.com
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07-12-2008, 02:49 PM
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actually an 40% percent efficient engine has been produced.
behold. In a Yaris, this engine would get over 80 mpg and would have more power and torque than most sports cars. pretty amazing stuff there.   
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07-12-2008, 03:11 PM
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No, they haven't. They've done nothing to alter the fundamentals of the 4 stroke cycle, so from a thermodynamic perspective claims of 80% efficiency are inane. The carnot efficiency Despite the push of many on this site recently to pretend that concepts like "carnot efficiency" and "entropy" and "scientific laws" are 19th century crap, I for one am going to stick by them for now.
Update: I just looked on their website, and even THEY claim only 40%. Where did you get 80% from????
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