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Old 11-02-2009, 11:05 PM
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Default Droop stops Anyone?

Dont think using my new coil overs as droop stops is a good Idea anyone using something for a droop stop? Off road guys use wide nylon straps but that would look cheesy......
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:16 AM
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Another thing to remember is that the offroad guys occasionally get airborne(sometimes on purpose)....PT folks spend alot of effort keeping air out from under the vehicle.

On my 70 camaro, the factory uses the shocks in the rear suspension as the droop stops...probably not the best treatment for the seals in the shocks...but that was how the factory did it. As for the front of my car, they had rubber stops that limited the suspension parts from colliding with the subframe at full droop and when fully compressed....but my after market arms don't include these full droop stops.

I'm curious too what you guys come up with for this...
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As John says, droop stops aren't that important. The only thing I worried about on II Much was to make sure the coilover springs didn't fall out of position with the shocks fully extended.

I used helper springs and spring seat guides to solve that problem.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

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i built in a droop limiter into my front suspension. It is a stainless steel cable. Im on my phone on my way to SEMA so take a look at my motortopia page. But my afco shocks can be used as a droop limiter.
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Which UCA's are you using? Factory and a lot of aftermarket have a snubber under the cross bracing. I know the SPC arms do not have that. Most others should.
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Check out this thread:
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295167


Post four shows an interesting idea for the SPC arms.

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For a street car I dont think straps are needed. Rarely do we lift the front end so fast and severely that the shock of a coilover is gonna take any abuse. And with a coilover you dont have to worry about the spring dropping out of its perch. So I think they arent needed.

Contact the manufacture of the coilover, they may have a small rubber snubber in the shock for both ends of travel. I wouldnt be surprised. A shock manufacture doesnt want his shock bottoming out metal to metal. JR
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The reason why I use them in my offroad truck is the shocks themselves do not have internal bumps/stops to stop the shock shaft from going through the cap. This is on a shock that is greater then 2.0's and have more then 10" of travel..Most of our cars may see 4"
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I was talking rear but all the info is relevant to a street car so thanks... But what if I want to jump that old washed out bridge to escape the law.... HHHMMM>
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I was talking rear but all the info is relevant to a street car so thanks... But what if I want to jump that old washed out bridge to escape the law.... HHHMMM>
Oh... The rearend. Ok, much diff. Well not so much cause its the rear. but that you are running a shine hauler Now.... If you are running low on a few jugs of shine then yer rear is gonna be light. My advice??? Dont go out with half a load of shine, keep the a$$ end loaded down. Sweet!!! When are you gonna make another run to the west coast. Im down to my last jug.... LOL What came first, shine runners or nascar???? JR
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