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The GMR
07-30-2011, 10:37 AM
This is a thread for some of the MISC stuff we have in the works.

Below is a GMR - Custom built C6 rear bulkhead assembly with GMR Shocks, Hubs, bulkhead, and GMR9 Housing. This is for a custom application but will be adapted for the pro-touring market.

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Jason

bdahlg68
07-30-2011, 12:46 PM
Awesome. Can't wait to see it. Will be in need of a rear suspension next year.

GrnDragon
07-31-2011, 09:32 AM
DAMN you and all the cool new stuff you keep designing!!!

Looks awesome, can't wait to see the real thing. I'm interested to see how you make your front hubs into a 35 spline drive hub! That's going to be COOL.

I have wanted an IRS in my 69 since I started it, but there was never a good option and now I am getting too far along with my second solid axle to change.

The GMR
08-13-2011, 06:41 PM
coming together!

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Jason

The GMR
08-19-2011, 11:23 AM
Moving Forward.

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Jason

Nessumsar
08-19-2011, 12:47 PM
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John Wright
08-20-2011, 03:56 AM
Neat Stuff!

Bryce
08-20-2011, 05:48 AM
awesome looking!

baddrides
08-21-2011, 11:25 AM
We like it Jason,.....

NightDiver
08-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Very nice! How will it compare in price / features with the Heidts IRS?
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Ovidiu
08-22-2011, 08:55 AM
if that make is to production, it would be on the short list for my '72 camaro

Samckitt
08-22-2011, 09:57 AM
Doing! I like it, that's cool. Curious on price?

wellis77
08-22-2011, 10:39 AM
That thing is way hot! Would have saved me a bunch of work...

The GMR
08-22-2011, 01:12 PM
if that make is to production, it would be on the short list for my '72 camaro

Yes, we are going to be making these is a "univerasl" setup for different WMS measurements. One for a early Nova, then larger on for Gen1 etc...

The bulkheads and components will not be on the "shelf" per say, but more along the lines of "built to order". If there is enough interest then Yes we will keep them on the shelf.


Doing! I like it, that's cool. Curious on price?

Not sure on the pricing just yet.
jason

The GMR
08-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Very nice! How will it compare in price / features with the Heidts IRS?
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The GMR rear clip will be quite a bit different. Not sure If it can even be compared to our setup.

The components are rated at 1400 HP and are currently being ran in some drag cars with a spool.

Jason

Roadrage David
08-23-2011, 02:23 AM
Super cool indeed i love it. , have you considerd it to make it with a push rod system.... where the coil over system will be placed in the middel above and nekst to the housing clock. altho a little more weight would be added to the system it would have less unsprong weight!??.

HotRod68Camaro
08-23-2011, 10:27 AM
Very interested on price and power rating?

The GMR
08-23-2011, 11:30 AM
The cantilever setup is more then possible, I can and have built just about anything a client can think of. Keep in mind we are also a full custom fabrication facility.

This setup is rated at 1400 HP with a spool, the only rear limit is the wavetrack or other locker assembly. All the components from the center gear set on out are rated for 1400 and haven been used and currently run in some serious levels of drag racing.

Jason

The GMR
08-23-2011, 01:32 PM
I have been asked for some rough pricing of the complete setup. This is only an estimate, the actual investment may be different.

Estimated 19K Complete

Includes the following :

-GMR Race Series C6 rear hubs
-GMR PT-R shocks with springs
-GMR9 housing
-Wavetrack third member ALUM case, same as shown above
-All 300M drive components and RACE series CV units
-Wilwood 14" GT (GMR coated) rotors with W4A calipers and radial mounts
-GMR custom sway bar assembly and components
-all 2012 C6 lowers, uppers, and uprights
-C6 / GMR Tie Rod adjusters (upgraded to heim units)
-GMR custom fabricated center section with pinion adjustment
-GMR custom CNC ALUM skid plate

Were well underway with this first unit in a tube chassis custom build, I will have some more pics shortly.

thanks
Jason

Roadrage David
08-24-2011, 02:21 AM
Are you able to use difernd brand of brake systems on it..

The GMR
08-24-2011, 07:41 AM
Are you able to use difernd brand of brake systems on it..


Yes, anything that will work with a C5/6 rear upright. The caliper mount might be different due to spacing of the rotor in relation to stock.

This specific setup is going with 14 inch GT and W4 calipers, so I just accounted for that.
jason

The GMR
08-27-2011, 12:28 PM
Rear Sway bar setup...

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Jason

andrewb70
08-27-2011, 12:44 PM
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Estimated 19K Complete

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Would that be 19,000 dollars? Just for clarification....

Andrew

The GMR
08-27-2011, 12:56 PM
Would that be 19,000 dollars? Just for clarification....

Andrew


As a rough estimate, yes.

Brake packages and some other elements can change that number quite a bit so its hard to give a set number right now. In due time I will have a set number to associate with the package as a complete unit.

Jason

The GMR
09-01-2011, 01:11 PM
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Jason

wellis77
09-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Oh those are nice. Any chance you'd be able to modify an existing IRS CV to shorten it?

andrewb70
09-02-2011, 05:49 AM
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Jason

Nice looking parts. Are those made by The Drive Shaft shop?

Some more info on the geometry would be nice, such as, anti-squat, camber curve, and bump steer.

Andrew

andrewb70
09-02-2011, 05:51 AM
Oh those are nice. Any chance you'd be able to modify an existing IRS CV to shorten it?

You don't really get CV shafts shortened. If you need a shorter axle you can have a custom bar made to your specifications. There are numerous vendors that can do this, The DriveShaft shop being one of them.

Andrew

The GMR
09-02-2011, 12:19 PM
Yes the DS shop made them for us, They will also be making the axles and drive-shaft for this particular chassis / project.


The geometry is modified stock C6 from the factory. We got the stock files for the stock platform them moved it inward accordingly for the proper WMS we needed.

Jason

The GMR
09-02-2011, 12:20 PM
You don't really get CV shafts shortened. If you need a shorter axle you can have a custom bar made to your specifications. There are numerous vendors that can do this, The DriveShaft shop being one of them.

Andrew

correct, the CV setup is about as short as it can be from the machine shop, they are limited by the components and third member in the center. The axles however are easy to make and usually end up cheaper then custom length CV setups.

jason

andrewb70
09-05-2011, 12:38 PM
Yes the DS shop made them for us, They will also be making the axles and drive-shaft for this particular chassis / project.


The geometry is modified stock C6 from the factory. We got the stock files for the stock platform them moved it inward accordingly for the proper WMS we needed.

Jason

Jason,

I've worked with Frank in the past and he runs a very good operation.

Please WOW me with this set-up. You are going to charge the sum of a down payment on a house for a rear suspension setup. Please tell me how awesome it will be. Please tell me something more about it. Please tell me what "modified" C6 geometry means. I know the C6 is a great car, but how will its rear geometry work when it is combined with a custom chassis and a non-C6 from suspension. Please tell me how it is better than anything else on the market today...Please...

Andrew

BADDRIDE II
09-05-2011, 09:42 PM
Jason,

I've worked with Frank in the past and he runs a very good operation.

Please WOW me with this set-up. You are going to charge the sum of a down payment on a house for a rear suspension setup. Please tell me how awesome it will be. Please tell me something more about it. Please tell me what "modified" C6 geometry means. I know the C6 is a great car, but how will its rear geometry work when it is combined with a custom chassis and a non-C6 from suspension. Please tell me how it is better than anything else on the market today...Please...

Andrew

I am waiting on more info about this bad boy too and have been following this thread. I have another project that would love this! The way I read it, it is good ol' stock C6 geometry (proven and used by most) that is just narrowed to desired Wheel Mount Surface. This WMS mod would not change geometry, and given the front suspension is given as much love as this rear, and weight distribution at corners is monitered as all cars of this caliber are with correct shock valving/spring rates, you will have one bad mo fo! The initial 19K estimate sounded high to me at first too, but then I remembered even a Moser type Fabricated semi-floater with same 3rd member & brake package ( W4 w/14" GT) that Jason spoke of, paired with a DSE parallel 4-link or equal will run approx. 10K and you still just have a semi-floater with parallel 4-link (not knocking as I have DSE 4-link as well....but to get to this level of rear that GMR has posted takes big bucks).
So now add in the fact that this comes with 300M race proven half shafts (Upgrade), GMR race hubs (Upgrade), GMR Chromolly fabricated center housing (Upgrade), Remote Resivoir Piggy Back race shocks (Upgrade), Cost to produce these low run complete custom products (priceless if you have ever tried yourself), take in the fact that it is advertised at 1400hp, and most likely lighter, and did you see that Sway bar set-up!. WOW.......there you have it! Jason tell us more..........especially about the race hubs. Are these stock or?

wellis77
09-05-2011, 10:05 PM
That sway bar is a fine piece. I need to build me a couple of those...

BADDRIDE II
09-06-2011, 05:53 AM
That sway bar is a fine piece. I need to build me a couple of those...

No doubt wellis77.......look how much spline engagement the link arms have, twice that of any I've seen or have owned! Talk about stable....when even the largest of cars bodies start to roll, this is the ideal type spline surface/engagement needed to help control it. VERY impressive!

The GMR
09-07-2011, 07:16 AM
Jason,

I've worked with Frank in the past and he runs a very good operation.

Please WOW me with this set-up. You are going to charge the sum of a down payment on a house for a rear suspension setup. Please tell me how awesome it will be. Please tell me something more about it. Please tell me what "modified" C6 geometry means. I know the C6 is a great car, but how will its rear geometry work when it is combined with a custom chassis and a non-C6 from suspension. Please tell me how it is better than anything else on the market today...Please...

Andrew


Please keep in mind that the price range was only an estimate, It can possibly be thousands more once were said and done. The rear hubs along are going to be 2K plus then you have to remember that we also have 1600 in shocks / springs etc...

AS for the geometry, we do not have the "kits" finalized. As it looks right now we are going to have 2-3 basic rear bulkhead sections. These will be very similar in geometry but different WMS measurements for the different platforms.

The two main WMS measurements we have discussed as a "must" to fit the majority of the market will be applicable to a early Nova and Gen1 Camaro. Those two WMS measurements see to cover the majority of the market.

The setup is still only in the design / setup phase. The pictures you see are for a "one-off" chassis with VERY specific requirements. The actual "kits" we plan to produce are going to look slightly different and have different WMS measurements.

As for the geometry, I dont know if we will disclose any information about what was changed or the actual location changes, once we get to that point I will categorize the information and make a decision on what we are willing to disclose.

Please be patient, we are far from a serious final product.

Thanks
Jason

The GMR
10-02-2011, 08:32 AM
Still moving forward. There is a large amount of design / fabrication involved with this specific project so some elements are taking time to complete. In other words... im only one man! :)

Center section getting closer!
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Jason

The GMR
10-27-2011, 08:17 AM
Getting closer.

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Jason

John Wright
10-27-2011, 09:02 AM
Wow you're getting close...it needs a few shafts to connect the dots and a little more welding in places and you're about done...right?

GRNOVA
10-27-2011, 10:48 AM
Wow Jason that is a nice piece!

The GMR
01-20-2012, 07:16 PM
Car was finished and off to get the sheet metal done!

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Jason

andrewb70
01-20-2012, 09:13 PM
Will the driveshaft be removable from the bottom once the floor sheet metal is installed?

Andrew

wellis77
01-20-2012, 09:44 PM
Did you use 4 mufflers? Can you enlighten me on this since I'm using a Viper V10 in my build? What brand are those and any idea how they sound withe unique Viper sound bite? I'm looking at some spin-techs for my build, but I'm not sure how they'll sound. Thanks Jason.

exwestracer
01-21-2012, 05:50 AM
If it's at all possible, PLEASE get the car owner, sheet metal fabricator, someone to post pictures of the floor pan that gets built for that thing. I gotta see this!

MetalShaper
02-05-2012, 10:42 PM
Whose doing the sheet metal work?