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greencactus3
03-12-2008, 09:16 AM
im still in the middle of designing my rear suspension for my truck (3link) pretty much from scratch, and i need to find coilover shocks for it.
i know the extended and collapsed lengths i want the shock to have, but no idea how to find a coilover from these numbers.
its obviously not a stock replacement so when a website asks me what vehicle its for, it isnt helping me.
i dont need anything adjustable, i just need it to be consistent,reliable and as cheap as possible without getting something crappy.
i also do have a clue about what kind of valving i want, and since coilover swaps in the rear for the s-series trucks is not done very often, i dont even have feedback from what other people have done in the past.
the coil rate i can do the 'math' to find later, but i want to kind of have a basic idea of what shock i will be using, so if you guys could help point me in the direction of how to find a shock which will suit my needs, that would be great. thanks!
EFI69Cam
03-12-2008, 09:29 AM
This should help you.
http://varishock.com/DataSheets/VAS_110XX_DS_WEB.pdf
greencactus3
03-12-2008, 11:42 AM
thanks, but are there any cheaper alternatives?
as much as i understand how cheaping out is not going to be helpful performance wise, but on a college budget means i have to pursue cheaper alternatives.
those varishocks would cost me well over $400 for a pair of coils and shocks
dipren443
03-12-2008, 01:30 PM
thanks, but are there any cheaper alternatives?
as much as i understand how cheaping out is not going to be helpful performance wise, but on a college budget means i have to pursue cheaper alternatives.
those varishocks would cost me well over $400 for a pair of coils and shocks
Probably the cheapest pair of tuneable coils you will find. Everything else I have looked at (Koni, Penske, Bilstein) is an order of magnitude greater than the Varishocks...
Link to the Koni site:
http://www.koniracing.com/roadraceitems.html
greencactus3
03-12-2008, 02:06 PM
thanks, that has lots of specs and dims, but no pricing. lol
i heard somewhere that bilsteins were good for the 'cheap beginner'
but i seem to fail at navigating the bilstein website.
dipren443
03-12-2008, 02:11 PM
thanks, that has lots of specs and dims, but no pricing. lol
i heard somewhere that bilsteins were good for the 'cheap beginner'
but i seem to fail at navigating the bilstein website.
I have yet to find a website listing the prices of Koni's. I priced out Koni's some time ago, but the placed I called seems to have stopped selling them and now exclusively carries Ohlins (Super High $).
Even if the Bilsteins are priced for the "cheap beginner", I would be willing to bet that the Varishocks are still considerably cheaper...
Just to give you an idea, when I priced the Koni 3012 (External Double Adjustable), they were about 500 each without a spring... :doh:
The 30 SP8, I believe, is Koni's cheapest threaded body shock.
greencactus3
03-12-2008, 02:25 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
^ how i feel....
damn. time to expand my budget for this project.... again....
the digits just keep getting higher
dipren443
03-12-2008, 02:36 PM
I had to do some digging, but this place has prices for a select few of the Koni's and several other brands also.
http://performanceshock.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1
And the list of dealers as listed on Koni-racing.com:
http://www.koniracing.com/wheretobuy.html
Best link I have found yet!!!!
https://secure1.securehosting.us/jerrybickel/prodlist.cfm?category=Shocks%20and%20Accessories
Scroll down about halfway to the 8216. $269 each and you still dont have springs....
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
Did you find this link on Bilstein's page??
http://www.bilstein.com/race.php
greencactus3
03-12-2008, 03:31 PM
that is awesome! thanks!
the 8216... the dimensions dont get bigger on this page
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
http://www.koniracing.com/8216.html
what size coils do konis take?
dipren443
03-12-2008, 03:38 PM
2.5" Coils I think, not sure though....
Also, the 8216 is a single adjustable version of the 8212. All dimensions of the 8212 should apply...
http://www.koniracing.com/images/File/82121400.JPG
greencactus3
03-13-2008, 06:58 AM
thanks! ill look into it more when i have time
greencactus3
03-13-2008, 06:22 PM
how much total suspension travel do you guys reccomend on a daily driven vehicle?
i might need to change the location of my mounts because i think im short a bit
greencactus3
03-14-2008, 05:19 AM
i found some cheaper ones from QA1 and Strange
what do you think about these?
http://autofabcart.net/strangesingleadjustableshocks.aspx
http://autofabcart.net/singleadjustablepromastarcoilover.aspx
greencactus3
03-14-2008, 07:28 PM
seems that Strange is more drag racing?
which means the valving will not be very optimal for road racing correct?
same with Competition Engineering coilovers?
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